scrappinspidey2
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Aug 29, 2019 22:16:45 GMT
I have never had to travel for work before. So sometimes this job throws things at me that make me go hmmmmm
The team in California has set up a tour of one of our accounts factories at 10am. At 5 or 7pm (there is some confusion) there is a cocktail hour with another account they want us to attend. The location is north of LA. I am south of LA. Initially the idea was that myself and one other nurse were going to drive up the day of the tour and we would meet everyone for the tour. Get a hotel and work from there. The boss wanted to get one room for herself, me and the other nurse driving up with us. One room. *hermit runs away screaming* We could then work till the cocktail hour, attend the cocktail hour, sleep and drive back the next morning.
I had issues with this. I don't want to sleep with my supervisor in any shape or form. I have a free room through hotels.com but the hotel she is wanting a room at is ridiculously expensive and it would still cost me 150 after my discount. Given the alternative, might still be worth doing.
Today she emails saying she is considering that we just drive up in the am and come back the same night. I asked for the address and confirmation of the cocktail times so I can make arrangements with the other nurse. In non rush hour traffic it is a 3 hour and 15 min drive from my house to the tour. We would have no where to work for 5-7 hours. Tour ends at noon and the other event isn't till 5 or 7. We would attend the evening and then drive home. This puts us back at my house at the earliest by 1030pm at the latest after midnight and the other nurse still has another 20 min drive after that.
I think they are crazy. We would have to be up by 4-5 to get ready, leave my house no later than 5:30am. The timing of the tour puts us in LA Rush Hour traffic at peak rush hour times, so I added an hour to our travel time. I have done a lot of rush hour traffic and LA by far is one of the worst.
Does this even sound like a good plan to anyone?
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Post by lucyg on Aug 29, 2019 22:29:52 GMT
Nope. Nothing sounds good about it. I would want to spend two nights there if possible, but certainly at least one. It’s unreasonable to expect you to get up at 4:00 am, spend all day driving and working, and then drive back late at night after a cocktail party. I would share a room with one co-worker only under duress, and absolutely not with two. Even if I had to pay for my own room. No surprise, I was good at talking my way out of business trips when I was working.  |
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Post by pierkiss on Aug 29, 2019 22:35:35 GMT
This sounds ridiculous. No way should a supervisor be sleeping in the same room as the supervise.
As a severe introvert my butt would be exploding from being too nervous to poop in the hotel room the entire trip.
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Post by christinec68 on Aug 29, 2019 22:39:10 GMT
No. There is nothing reasonable about either set up. Driving 7+ hours in one day with the tour and a cocktail party sounds miserable. Sharing a hotel room with 2 people sounds worse, adding the supervisor element and just no. I’d pay for my own room before agreeing to that. Can you stay at the hotel you can get for free and just meet at the tour or other hotel?
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Post by ntsf on Aug 29, 2019 22:41:34 GMT
there is no way they should ask you to share a room. your own room.. or skip one of the events and manage the time.
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Post by yodutchess on Aug 29, 2019 22:42:17 GMT
This would be a big fat no from me. Plus you can’t exactly work in a Starbucks due to HIPAA. Does the factory have a conference room they are going to let you hole up in to work?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2019 22:42:32 GMT
2 people at the most in a room, and company should be paying for it!!
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Post by scrapngranny on Aug 29, 2019 22:43:37 GMT
Do you have an option not to go? If not, your best bet is to find the least objectionable scenario for you and go with that.
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Post by Neisey on Aug 29, 2019 22:47:58 GMT
Are you needed for the tour or cocktail party for a specific purpose? If not, and neither of these events even interest you I would make a case for staying home.
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Post by katlady on Aug 29, 2019 22:54:33 GMT
At a minimum, I would drive up the night before and stay in a hotel that night. I wouldn't want to share a room with my boss, and I think the Company should pay for the room (plus mileage).
As for what to do in between, I don't know. Maybe find a nice library? Is the afternoon reception at a place of business or a restaurant? If it is a place of business, do they have hotelling cubicles you can use?
ETA - If you drive up the night before, maybe you can get late check-out of the hotel and go back there after the morning tour.
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Post by summer on Aug 29, 2019 22:58:38 GMT
It’s too long of a day and too big of a distance to not spend the night. There is no way I would want to share a hotel room with my supervisor and another coworker. I am so glad I don’t have to travel for work. Every time a conference is suggested to me I say no.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 29, 2019 23:24:52 GMT
I'd share with a co-worker but not a supervisor
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 23:29:10 GMT
Three people in one room? Will one be sharing a bed or sleeping in a pullout sofa? Why not book something at a cheaper hotel and get two rooms? Sounds incredibly selfish to me and her alternative plan of driving 6+ hours and be expected to attend two functions, all within a 24 hour period, is insane.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 29, 2019 23:29:26 GMT
I would not be driving 3+ hours EACH way on the same day that I am working a full day. It is too much! It is unsafe!
So you’ll be spending 6.5 hours driving for them plus a full workday? Is that even legal?
Weirdness all around.
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Aug 29, 2019 23:47:56 GMT
I have already laid out my concerns to the supervisor involved. just wanted to get that out of the way lol.
They are saying that these events are mandatory for the CA team. What they don't seem to understand is that CA is a very large state and not all of us are just up the street so to speak. I will be paid milage and travel time. That isn't the issue. Thank goodness for that.
Working is the problem. I was already irritated that I would be out a day for these events. You have no idea how far behind that puts us. They know but don't seem to care. They think these events are important for the team and maybe they are. As an introvert I do not see how these are helpful and I admit some resentment against scheduling work things outside of my work hours. I also hate wasted time, so the time between the events drives me insane. We can't work in public due to privacy. Or at least I refuse to. I can email etc, but I won't make calls. I don't have a work cell phone yet either so I won't make calls on my personal cell. They think Im strange when I point that out but all the other Field nurses have work cell phones. I will get one to eventually.
Option 1: don't go. This is my favorite option.
Option 2: Drive up in the AM, get a hotel with my free room (within the free room amount) and have a place to hide/nap/work between events and drive home in the am after rush hour
Option 3: No..just no.
The odds are Option 2 is gonna happen. The problem is Im still carpooling with this lady I have never met before so she relies on me for transportation. She is parking her car in my gated apartment complex in my spot as street parking is not available. I hope they don't notice (they more than likely won't) I don't think she wants to share a room either, but she doesn't have the luxury of the free hotel room like I do. Supervisor is getting a room at a hotel next to the airport. Im guessing she is going to rearrange her trip and fly in that morning so she won't have the commute we do.
Im glad I am not that crazy thinking this kind of planning is a bit out of line.
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Post by misadventurous on Aug 30, 2019 0:21:32 GMT
Who ARE these people who think it's a good idea to have colleagues sharing rooms? There are two types of clothing I do NOT want to see my co-workers in: swimsuits and pajamas. No, no, no, no, NO. The last place I worked for was a penny-pinching nightmare and even they didn't expect anyone to share a room, EVER. Gross. Just say you're a very light sleeper and can't sleep with other people. Period. I am the last person in the world who would advocate running off to HR for every little thing, but this one I think I would actually push back on. It crosses a series of personal boundaries that simply should not be crossed with people you work with.
Ugh - so sorry you have to deal with this. So annoying.
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Post by drummergirl65 on Aug 30, 2019 0:59:17 GMT
No. This isn't an appropriate set up for your work. You should at minimum have your own room. I would flat out refuse. Where I work they give you your own room and car. Doesn't matter if you're at the top or bottom of the work "food chain".
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 30, 2019 1:00:04 GMT
You should get a hotel room and absolutely get your own room.
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Post by not2peased on Aug 30, 2019 1:07:31 GMT
at least 1 night, and I think its absolute bullshit to make anyone share a room, but I know it's kind of a "thing" with nursing jobs (although no docs ever double up!)
It is highly inappropriate to room with your supervisor, and the "plan" sounds absurd, and I would definitely tell her that her plan sucks
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 30, 2019 1:10:45 GMT
I like to travel for work. I always have my own room, but I almost always travel alone. Heading to Rhode Island in November and the place we are going to observe will have to pay for two rooms. I am going with a coworker who was my boss. We both like our space.
When I travel, I tend to get dinner early and jump in my pjs and scrapbook or other artsy things. Don't need to be holed up in a room from 3 pm until the next day with someone else I am not related to.
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Post by moodyblue on Aug 30, 2019 1:59:40 GMT
I agree that her plans don’t seem reasonable.
However, I’m kind of laughing about everyone saying they would never share a room with a co-worker or you should not be expected to share - because in education teachers are routinely expected to share a room when we go to conferences. I remember being amazed when my husband went on a business trip with a male co-worker and they each got their own room. I was surprised that he said the company would never expect them to share a room. Things work differently in the business world than in education.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Aug 30, 2019 2:16:53 GMT
I'm used to me and 3 random female coworkers in a 2 queen room with 1 bathroom, and we all have to be at the same meeting in the morning, for 4-5 days. No worries about management, she always had a nice suite to herself. As much as I wanted to get my own room, I would never want to be seen as someone that thinks they are too precious to be a team player, so I just toughed it out with everyone else. Good luck! If it was just me and my supervisor traveling, we did share a room occasionally, but ALWAYS got are own beds.
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Post by scrapmaven on Aug 30, 2019 2:45:53 GMT
IMHO, you should each have your own room and it should be for 2 nights. This is cheap and not professional.
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Aug 30, 2019 2:56:46 GMT
So the newest plan is drive up the night before and spend two nights in a hotel. No word on if we are all sharing or not. I won't. I will get my own room and put in for the expense. Probably talk to my own supervisor first (im getting ready to switch) They had this issue with the company meeting too. It was a resounding no for most when it came to sharing rooms. It's bad enough I have to be "on" for four hours driving, a tour, a cocktail hour and most of the rest of the day, but if I have to share with a supervisor and a coworker, there is no down time. As an introvert that is a bit much for me. I need space and downtime. Especially with functions like this where I don't know anyone.
We will see what happens. The supervisor on the trip just asked mine if it was okay that we get paid to go to cocktail hour. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA as if I would go unpaid. Nope.
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Post by Clair on Aug 30, 2019 3:09:11 GMT
These people obviously have no clue about Southern California traffic...
For some reason I think you’re in the San Diego area.
Not sure exactly where you are headed but... it can take 2.5 hours to get from the 405/605 interchange to Santa Monica in the morning - about 35 miles.
Taking the 5 into Downtown can almost be as bad.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 30, 2019 3:14:25 GMT
Who ARE these people who think it's a good idea to have colleagues sharing rooms? There are two types of clothing I do NOT want to see my co-workers in: swimsuits and pajamas. No, no, no, no, NO. The last place I worked for was a penny-pinching nightmare and even they didn't expect anyone to share a room, EVER. Gross. Just say you're a very light sleeper and can't sleep with other people. Period. I am the last person in the world who would advocate running off to HR for every little thing, but this one I think I would actually push back on. It crosses a series of personal boundaries that simply should not be crossed with people you work with. Ugh - so sorry you have to deal with this. So annoying. better pajamas than not pajamas. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 30, 2019 3:14:41 GMT
I remember being amazed when my husband went on a business trip with a male co-worker and they each got their own room. I was surprised that he said the company would never expect them to share a room. Things work differently in the business world than in education. I don't think it's the business world vs. education. I absolutely think it's a GENDER thing. My DH used to travel for his work and was just appalled at the idea of having to share a room with a co-worker. Maybe they (the people in charge) think that women are more social or chatty, or something, so we wouldn't mind- or would actually LIKE- sharing a room with a female co-worker? Introvert or not, I think sharing a room with a co-worker is expecting much too much familiarity / intimacy for a working relationship. |
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Aug 30, 2019 3:40:45 GMT
I'm used to me and 3 random female coworkers in a 2 queen room with 1 bathroom, and we all have to be at the same meeting in the morning, for 4-5 days. No worries about management, she always had a nice suite to herself. As much as I wanted to get my own room, I would never want to be seen as someone that thinks they are too precious to be a team player, so I just toughed it out with everyone else. Good luck! If it was just me and my supervisor traveling, we did share a room occasionally, but ALWAYS got are own beds. Do you think men, at any level of any organization, would *ever* be expected to share a bed?
Would a man be called "precious" and "not a team player" if he refused to do so? I highly doubt it, because he'd never have been expected to share a bed with a strange man or, even worse, share a bed with a man he knew (male co-worker).
More than a decade ago, a subsidiary of the multi-billion dollar company for whom my DH worked decided it would cut costs by having co-workers share hotel rooms. Just two to a room, same gender, no sharing of beds -- unless the hotel ran out of queen-queen rooms and only had king rooms. (ETA I need to clarify here. They never had to share a bed. I should have put a bunch of question marks instead of a period, because what would have happened if the hotel had only king rooms left?) Not a problem when traveling alone, but when sharing a room with a co-worker...
That policy lasted less than a month. EVERYONE complained about it, the men and the women. Besides the ick factor of room sharing, it required tighter coordination of flights and airport transportation, messed up everyone's eating and sleeping patterns, and gave people far more insight into their co-worker's private lives than they *ever* wanted.
It was a fuster cluck from the get-go. Last I knew, it was still in the top three of The Most Hated Attempts by Corporate to Trim the Budget.
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Post by janniepea on Aug 30, 2019 3:49:16 GMT
No way! Those are ridiculous expectations. I’d gladly pay for my own room. Otherwise it’s a very stressful day.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Aug 30, 2019 4:00:03 GMT
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