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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2019 16:47:42 GMT
DS (18) was just approved for his first credit card. The card has no annual fee and is a cashback one though our bank. They gave him a credit line of $1,100. The kid had a job at McDonald's for two months over the summer and will work part-time at college. WTH does he need a line of $1,100?
Our agreement is that if he uses it just for gas, we will pay it off every month for him. This way he starts building good credit. Hopefully he doesn't use it for anything else. (He can ask to use it in an emergency)
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Post by MichyM on Sept 7, 2019 17:01:40 GMT
$1100 doesn't seem excessively high to me. Could it be that its the $300 of our young adulthood, with inflation and the fact that Americans love credit cards more than ever factored in?
If your son agrees that $1100 is too high, I wonder if he could contact the issuing bank to lower his limit?
That said, good on him to have gotten his CC in college. My son got tons of pre-approved CC offers as he graduated HS and during the first couple of years of college. It was decided that he would wait till close to graduation to sign up. We thought building his credit through apartment rentals and utility payments would be enough to get him started. Big, huge mistake. By the time he got close to graduation, all the banks required either his dad or I to also be on the account for the first year or two (I'm unclear on the length since his dad was the one to do it). In hindsight, our son should have been building his CC history during college like your son is doing.
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Post by peabay on Sept 7, 2019 17:05:50 GMT
$1100 doesn't seem excessively high to me. Could it be that its the $300 of our young adulthood, with inflation and the fact that Americans love credit cards more than ever factored in? If your son agrees that $1100 is too high, I wonder if he could contact the issuing bank to lower his limit? That said, good on him to have gotten his CC in college. My son got tons of pre-approved CC offers as he graduated HS and during the first couple of years of college. It was decided that he would wait till close to graduation to sign up. We thought building his credit through apartment rentals and utility payments would be enough to get him started. Big, huge mistake. By the time he got close to graduation, all the banks required either his dad or I to also be on the account for the first year or two (I'm unclear on the length since his dad was the one to do it). In hindsight, our son should have been building his CC history during college like your son is doing. My engineer daughter with a great job in Boston ran into the same problem. She could only get a Discover card with a ridiculously low limit. And this kid was making close to six figures just out of undergrad!
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Post by Rhondito on Sept 7, 2019 17:10:46 GMT
Our agreement is that if he uses it just for gas, we will pay it off every month for him. This reminded me of a friend I had in college. His grandfather gave him a gas card, maybe for Shell or Exxon? He used it for gas... and beer
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Post by craftymom101 on Sept 7, 2019 17:14:45 GMT
My first credit card was a Macy’s card with a $100 limit! I used it to buy some work clothes (maybe one outfit?).
$1100 does seem high for someone with little credit history or work history.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2019 17:16:20 GMT
Our agreement is that if he uses it just for gas, we will pay it off every month for him. This reminded me of a friend I had in college. His grandfather gave him a gas card, maybe for Shell or Exxon? He used it for gas... and beer I did tell him no filling up friend's tanks and getting cash from them. Honestly, we plan to help pay for different things through college. I just don't want to see a $700 bill one month with no notice. My guess is that it will be $50-$100 unless he goes skiing one week.
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Post by padresfan619 on Sept 7, 2019 17:17:43 GMT
In the long run the higher limit will be better if it really is only used for gas. The usage percentage compared to his limit will make his credit score rise rapidly if he uses only 5-10% of his credit limit each month.
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Post by padresfan619 on Sept 7, 2019 17:18:17 GMT
Our agreement is that if he uses it just for gas, we will pay it off every month for him. This reminded me of a friend I had in college. His grandfather gave him a gas card, maybe for Shell or Exxon? He used it for gas... and beer I did the same thing with the gas card my parents gave me in college!
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Post by MichyM on Sept 7, 2019 17:19:39 GMT
freecharlie. Out of curiousity I did a quick google. I graduated HS in 79, so I used that year for the $300: "In other words, $300 in 1979 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $1,012.89 in 2017, a difference of $712.89 over 38 years."
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Post by myshelly on Sept 7, 2019 17:31:20 GMT
My very first credit card was a Discover. I was a college student and worked about 15 hrs/week. I listed my occupation as student and was honest about my minimal income.
My credit limit was $10,000.
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Post by kels99 on Sept 7, 2019 17:35:13 GMT
My 20 yo DD just got approved for her first cc. I had to co-apply and she has a $4500 limit, which is crazy considering she only works 8 hours/week while in school. I only work part-time too, but I guess my good credit score counted for something. She is a very responsible cheapskate, so I'm not worried about her running it up.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 7, 2019 17:37:20 GMT
Ds' credit limit is $500.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2019 17:37:56 GMT
My 20 yo DD just got approved for her first cc. I had to co-apply and she has a $4500 limit, which is crazy considering she only works 8 hours/week while in school. I only work part-time too, but I guess my good credit score counted for something. She is a very responsible cheapskate, so I'm not worried about her running it up. I wonder why you had to coapply. But yeah, $4500 for a first card is nuts
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Post by garcia5050 on Sept 7, 2019 17:38:23 GMT
I was a bank employee in 1990, and my employee discounted credit card limit was $500. I had been working there for 2 years. My boyfriend at the time, getting paid cash at his part time job got a card at the same time with a $1000 limit. It never made sense to me.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2019 17:38:30 GMT
Ds' credit limit is $500. much more reasonable
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Post by peaname on Sept 7, 2019 17:55:04 GMT
You can have the limit lowered. We had a ridiculous limit on our main Visa we could charge a car and they kept raising it until we called.
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Post by roberta on Sept 7, 2019 18:10:26 GMT
Our credit cards keep using the limit unasked! They make money on that high interest so in that way it is to their benefit.
I agree $1000 isn’t really that much in today’s dollars. I bet I could drop $1000 on craft supplies in a blink!
*Upping the limit
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Post by hop2 on Sept 7, 2019 18:16:04 GMT
My 2 have had Ex’s cc in their name for severally years before they even went to college. They both use that CC from their father’s account for books & materials for college & clothes. Then Ex pays it. Which gave them a credit history before graduating thankfully.
DD now has all of her banking in order including a cc even though she is currently unemployed. ( she starts next week ! ) Her CC has a $3000 limit.
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 7, 2019 18:16:38 GMT
freecharlie, I think you're handling ds's first cc w/lots of savvy. Plus, he'll create a habit of only using his credit cards for needs rather than unlimited cash. My kids never got credit card offers, but that could be a result of keeping all of us off of marketing lists. Yds has a card and he charges his groceries and college needs; however, he always lets us know if he has to use it to buy a book or something other than his weekly allowance for food. He's never gone off the rails and by now he understands the importance of keeping great credit. Also, he knows that you only spend what you can afford to pay off in that moment.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 7, 2019 18:16:41 GMT
Our credit cards keep using the limit unasked! They make money on that high interest so in that way it is to their benefit. I agree $1000 isn’t really that much in today’s dollars. I bet I could drop $1000 on craft supplies in a blink! *Upping the limit 3 classes if college textbooks could easily equal that!
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2019 18:19:46 GMT
Our credit cards keep using the limit unasked! They make money on that high interest so in that way it is to their benefit. I agree $1000 isn’t really that much in today’s dollars. I bet I could drop $1000 on craft supplies in a blink! *Upping the limit 3 classes if college textbooks could easily equal that! ds's for the semester were right around $500
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Post by amom23 on Sept 7, 2019 18:24:47 GMT
When my DS got a credit card with me as a co-signer in High School because he was going on a school trip to Germany we were able to get a card with a $500 that he continued to use while in college, etc. Fast forward to his younger brother and the lowest the bank would issue was $1500. Honestly I liked DS#1 having such a low limit since he got to learn how to be responsible while not being able to get over his head if you know what I mean.
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 7, 2019 18:32:33 GMT
My dd got her first credit card while she was still in high school, through our bank. I had to "co-sign" (or whatever it's called with a credit card) and the limit was $500.00. It was a special "teen VISA card". It worked well because it got her started on how to use a credit card responsibly, but didn't have a high limit. She was actually scared of even $500.00, which I was happy about. lol. Once she graduated from high school they upgraded her to a regular one and my name isn't on it anymore. I have no idea what her limit is now but she's still scared to get it too high.
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 7, 2019 18:32:44 GMT
I think DD started with a $500 credit limit on her first college card.
We never see her bill, and if your DS's is in his name alone, IMHO, he shouldn't have to clear any purchases with you. He should be responsible for paying the bill. We agreed to cover things like gas, school expenses, medical expenses, etc., and DD just lets me know what I owe her every month.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2019 18:38:46 GMT
I think DD started with a $500 credit limit on her first college card. We never see her bill, and if your DS's is in his name alone, IMHO, he shouldn't have to clear any purchases with you. He should be responsible for paying the bill. We agreed to cover things like gas, school expenses, medical expenses, etc., and DD just lets me know what I owe her every month. he does if he wants me to pay for it. I'm not paying for things i didn't agree to pay for. If he wants to charge things without my approval, he pays, not me.
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Post by busy on Sept 7, 2019 18:54:13 GMT
In the long run the higher limit will be better if it really is only used for gas. The usage percentage compared to his limit will make his credit score rise rapidly if he uses only 5-10% of his credit limit each month. Yeah, that. If his reported balance is more than 30% of his credit limit, it will have a negative impact on his credit score. Over 50%, very negative. Even if you pay off in full each month, a $0 balance is not necessarily what’s reported to the credit bureaus. With a very low credit limit, he could easily hit 50% utilization with just a few tanks of gas. It’s a good time to learn responsible credit use.
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 7, 2019 19:07:49 GMT
I think DD started with a $500 credit limit on her first college card. We never see her bill, and if your DS's is in his name alone, IMHO, he shouldn't have to clear any purchases with you. He should be responsible for paying the bill. We agreed to cover things like gas, school expenses, medical expenses, etc., and DD just lets me know what I owe her every month. he does if he wants me to pay for it. I'm not paying for things i didn't agree to pay for.If he wants to charge things without my approval, he pays, not me. Which is exactly the same for us. IMHO, it is DD's card, in her name, and hers to learn how to use so she can charge whatever she wants, pays the bill every month and just lets me know what I owe her based on what we've agreed to cover. If the card is in her name, she should be getting the bill and be responsible for paying it, not me was my point.
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Post by mlana on Sept 7, 2019 19:32:05 GMT
I had each of my kids issued cards on my accounts when they turned 18. I had enough cards that I could let them pretty much be the sole user of the card, so there was no arguing that they hadn't made a charge. I was surprised that my cards showed up on their credit reports! They were just listed as users, not as being responsible for the payments. by the time they wee ready to apply fo cards of their own, they both had what appeared to be years of successfully managing their credit card debt.
When my son moved to the West coast, I removed him from my account, I thought. I canceled his cards and he has never been issued one when we had to replace cards due to having them hacked. He recently told m that he is still listed on two of the accounts, which he liked since it shows a long credit history with no payment issues. LOL
Teaching your kids how to manage credit is one of the most important lessons you will teach them. My DH was never taught this and he would really struggle with it if I didn't manage our finances. He truly does not seem to be able to understand that you have to use credit cards carefully, thoughtfully, because you do have to pay for what you use them for. I have to keep a stranglehold on ours to keep him from running up balances on them again. He doesn't mean to put us in debt, he just wanted XYZ and he had a card in his pocket, so...
The worst part is - he doesn't really buy for himself, he buys for others. When the kids were small, he would top into Toys R Us and buy them something hideously expensive, usually something I had told them they couldn't have. He'd gift it to them before I could stop him! Then I had to stop them from opening it and make him return it. My kids learned fast that gifts from Dad weren't theirs until Mom said they were. I insisted he pack the things up and return them himself, plus he had to pay any restocking fees out of his weekly allowance. This seemed to get the message across more than watching his kids be upset because they were so excited to get something only to have it taken away. I think this has stayed in my kids' minds as they make their credit choices - they don't want to be like their dad and hurt people they love just so they can get praised and thanked.
Marcy
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 7, 2019 19:35:31 GMT
I started out with that limit in 1987. You have to account for inflation. Now I call them and tell them to not raise my limit anymore. They want to increase a 26K limit. Having been hacked several times, I much prefer a lower limit. Last hack was 5K.
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Post by flanz on Sept 7, 2019 19:58:15 GMT
$1100 doesn't seem excessively high to me. Could it be that its the $300 of our young adulthood, with inflation and the fact that Americans love credit cards more than ever factored in? If your son agrees that $1100 is too high, I wonder if he could contact the issuing bank to lower his limit? That said, good on him to have gotten his CC in college. My son got tons of pre-approved CC offers as he graduated HS and during the first couple of years of college. It was decided that he would wait till close to graduation to sign up. We thought building his credit through apartment rentals and utility payments would be enough to get him started. Big, huge mistake. By the time he got close to graduation, all the banks required either his dad or I to also be on the account for the first year or two (I'm unclear on the length since his dad was the one to do it). In hindsight, our son should have been building his CC history during college like your son is doing. DD did this too. Kept putting off getting a card because she didn't feel she needed one. GREAT to start early!
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