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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 17:55:40 GMT
Bernie Sanders is home after having a heart attack and having 2 stents placed.
Do you think Bernie should continue to fight for the Democrat spot that will hopefully run Trump out of the White House?
Do you think he should drop out of the race now?
Just curious what other peas think.
Me? Not being a big Bernie fan to begin with, I do worry about his health and how it could impact his presidency.
I am also curious how his wonderful health care coverage and care will play into his health care plans and how we will get others on board knowing he himself has private top notch care...
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Post by trollie on Oct 6, 2019 17:59:21 GMT
I like Bernie but, heart issue aside, I think it is time for a younger generation of people in Washington. He should bow out and continue to be a Senator and fight for his constituents and the American people in general.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 18:00:04 GMT
I like Bernie but, heart issue aside, I think it is time for a younger generation of people in Washington. He should bow out and continue to be a Senator and fight for his constituents and the American people in general. I too would like a younger president as well.
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Post by amom23 on Oct 6, 2019 18:03:40 GMT
Anyone can have a health issue so that doesn't worry/bother me. What I dislike about Bernie is he only becomes a Democrat when he runs for president. I do think there are some wonderful candidates running and certainly most if not all will make great cabinet heads!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 18:03:49 GMT
I was never a Bernie fan. I thought he was too old the first time, definitely too old this time. I worry about his health. I was concerned about Hillary too, age wise. She was not my first choice but there was no way I was going to vote for Trump. Plenty of people have heart attacks and stents and go on with little to no health problems. However, often doctors encourage less stress. Running the country is not stress free.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 18:17:20 GMT
Bernie Sanders is home after having a heart attack and having 2 stents placed. Do you think Bernie should continue to fight for the Democrat spot that will hopefully run Trump out of the White House? Do you think he should drop out of the race now? Just curious what other peas think. Me? Not being a big Bernie fan to begin with, I do worry about his health and how it could impact his presidency. I am also curious how his wonderful health care coverage and care will play into his health care plans and how we will get others on board knowing he himself has private top notch care...I think you make an excellent point with the healthcare issue. It definitely opens him up to questions about what he is proposing for the rest of us versus what he is entitled to receive. As far as I have heard, anyone supporting Medicare for All or some version of that isn't offering to sacrifice the federal plans they qualify under (I could be wrong since I am not following some of their campaigns word for word. Have any of those who support those programs offered to go on record that Congress would also fall under that?)
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Post by rodeomom on Oct 6, 2019 18:27:06 GMT
Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat, he should not be the democrat candidate for president.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 6, 2019 18:33:38 GMT
I am also curious how his wonderful health care coverage and care will play into his health care plans and how we will get others on board knowing he himself has private top notch care... I can assure you he is not just covered by Medicare, probably not using it at all! He has his federal health insurance! He needs to withdraw and should actively campaign for the others.. He needs to acclimate his supporters to vote for someone else, NOW before they choose to sit home in Nov 2020! Selfishly, I would prefer to keep his 'democratic' seat in the Senate.
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Post by littlemama on Oct 6, 2019 19:13:00 GMT
I think and have thought that he should drop out. He is not a Democrat, so he is messing with the actual Democratic field. Im also not interested in having an 80 year old at the time of beginning his presidency.
I would love to see a Warren/Buttigieg ticket.
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Post by papersilly on Oct 6, 2019 19:15:39 GMT
Time for Bernie to bow out.
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Post by tracylynn on Oct 6, 2019 19:17:00 GMT
Anyone can have a health issue so that doesn't worry/bother me. What I dislike about Bernie is he only becomes a Democrat when he runs for president. I do think there are some wonderful candidates running and certainly most if not all will make great cabinet heads! Yes!!!! As soon as he either quits or doesn't become the nominee he'll go back to Independent. You're either a D or you aren't. That's why I never understood the anger about the DNC pushing Hillary.
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Post by tracyarts on Oct 6, 2019 19:29:28 GMT
I know that medical technology allows people to live longer fuller lives after serious health events like heart attacks. But given his age and condition, he needs to step back and let younger and healthier people take the lead in the election. Is he not capable of running for president now? No, he probably has several good productive years left. But he has value in other positions, less demanding and stressful positions. I think we need a younger, energetic person to run for president. I would accept him as a running mate though. He definitely has political experience and would be an asset to an administration. I see him more useful in a support or advisory position, TBH.
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Post by mom on Oct 6, 2019 20:11:52 GMT
I have never been a Bernie fan, but he needs to go. I think everyone agrees - the Democratic field is too cluttered. Bow out, gracefully, and let there be some breathing room for the others.
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Post by pierkiss on Oct 6, 2019 21:07:44 GMT
Bernie is too old. He was too old before his heart attack. And now after it, he is too frail. He can do a lot of good in the senate. And that work won’t kill him.
I like Bernie, and I like a lot of his ideas. But I don’t think he can beat Trump. I think he is too far to the left.
He needs to bow out now.
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Post by carhoch on Oct 6, 2019 21:15:32 GMT
Bernie is not a Democrat he never was and never will and he is too old ,Joe is too ,Elisabeth Warren is too much on the left for me . My first choice is Pete Buttigieg.
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Post by chaosisapony on Oct 6, 2019 21:19:55 GMT
I like Bernie and have voted for him in the past. I would probably vote for him again. But, with the crowd this big and him having health problems this early on in the race it's probably for the best for him to drop out. I can't imagine the stress of running for president being a younger, completely healthy person!
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Post by mom on Oct 6, 2019 21:26:10 GMT
Bernie is not a Democrat he never was and never will and he is too old ,Joe is too ,Elisabeth Warren is too much on the left for me . My first choice is Pete Buttigieg.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 6, 2019 22:25:26 GMT
GOODBYE BERNIE!!
I continue to be in favor of whoever can actually beat the criminal currently occupying the White House. Don’t care how moderate or far-left, how old or how young, what their race, religion, or sexual orientation may be.
I don’t know who that person is, but it ain’t Bernie.
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Post by likescarrots on Oct 6, 2019 22:32:33 GMT
Just a reminder that Elizabeth Warren is 70, Joe Biden is 76, and they are the three realistic candidates for the democratic nominee. Yes, Bernie is the oldest, but none of these people are spring chickens. I hope that Bernie and his medical team will very carefully evaluate what is best for him and his health first and foremost. I don't really see how his medical insurance would deter anyone from voting for him, as he does now and has always argued that everyone should have the same access to healthcare that he has. No one, rich, poor, middle class or otherwise should feel any less confident in their ability to receive the proper treatment because they don't have the money to do so.
ETA: Elizabeth warren was registered as a republican in the 90s so I guess she isn't a 'real democrat' either and should bow out.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 6, 2019 22:43:58 GMT
Just a reminder that Elizabeth Warren is 70, Joe Biden is 76, and they are the three realistic candidates for the democratic nominee. Yes, Bernie is the oldest, but none of these people are spring chickens. I hope that Bernie and his medical team will very carefully evaluate what is best for him and his health first and foremost. I don't really see how his medical insurance would deter anyone from voting for him, as he does now and has always argued that everyone should have the same access to healthcare that he has. No one, rich, poor, middle class or otherwise should feel any less confident in their ability to receive the proper treatment because they don't have the money to do so. ETA: Elizabeth warren was registered as a republican in the 90s so I guess she isn't a 'real democrat' either and should bow out. I was all set to Like your post and then you had to go and add that ETA. Elizabeth Warren used to be a registered Republican (like me). Now she’s a registered Democrat (like me). That makes both of us Democrats. Bernie is not now, and never has been as far as I know, a registered Democrat. That makes him NOT a Democrat. He’s happy to use the Democratic establishment as allowed to help his run for President, but his followers take offense at the fact that many Democrats would, in fact, prefer to be represented by a Democrat.
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Post by Sarah*H on Oct 6, 2019 23:45:52 GMT
Can you even imagine what Mr. Heart Disease with Bad Hair would make with Bernie's heart attack in the general election? Hillary's pneumonia was considered disqualifying as was a concussion she'd suffered years before and the media ate it right up. No thank you. I'd rather deal with 6 months of bad Pocahontas jokes. I'd like Bernie to step aside for the good of the country but of course, he will not.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 6, 2019 23:50:33 GMT
Bernie is not a Democrat.
He’s only a Democrat when he wants to take advantage of funding.
I don’t like his screaming and anger, don’t think we need a potus like that.
I would not say he need to step down because of having a health issue, if he’s fully recovered and his doctor gives him a clean bill of health.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 6, 2019 23:57:15 GMT
Just a reminder that Elizabeth Warren is 70, Joe Biden is 76, and they are the three realistic candidates for the democratic nominee. Yes, Bernie is the oldest, but none of these people are spring chickens. I hope that Bernie and his medical team will very carefully evaluate what is best for him and his health first and foremost. I don't really see how his medical insurance would deter anyone from voting for him, as he does now and has always argued that everyone should have the same access to healthcare that he has. No one, rich, poor, middle class or otherwise should feel any less confident in their ability to receive the proper treatment because they don't have the money to do so. ETA: Elizabeth warren was registered as a republican in the 90s so I guess she isn't a 'real democrat' either and should bow out. Both of these are crystal clear. Elizabeth Warren has most definitely made the cut from being a Republican to a Democrat. Bernie runs on the Democratic ticket, yet is an independent he’s never made the cut from being an independent. Using your logic, trump was a democrat up until what? 2015? So he shouldn’t be potus then, right? He threatened the Republicans to make him the sole nominee—said if they didn’t he would run as an independent.
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Post by likescarrots on Oct 7, 2019 0:19:59 GMT
You all sound just as pitiful and brainwashed as republicans who voted for trump because he's got the R and god forbid they vote for a D. When your party loses again because you put up mediocre candidates that don't have the country's best interests at heart, we'll just hear you complaining about the bernie bros again. You never learn.
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Post by Country Ham on Oct 7, 2019 0:23:26 GMT
Bernie is not a Democrat he never was and never will ETA: Elizabeth warren was registered as a republican in the 90s so I guess she isn't a 'real democrat' either Using the same rationale then we can deny Trump is a republican. He's been registered a democratic, reform and independent I believe. Oh goodie, everyone can own a little bit of him. I do think Carrots was being tongue in cheek though. A lot of folks change political affiliations.
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Post by lisae on Oct 7, 2019 0:53:12 GMT
Regardless of his health, Bernie needs to leave the race. He really got on my nerves in the last debate with all the shouting ever single answer. He was hoarse and it was no wonder if that is the way he communicates. I don't care for most of his ideas either.
Biden would be my pick for someone in Bernie's age group, but I think Biden is too old, also.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 7, 2019 1:15:33 GMT
I have never been a Bernie fan, so I think now would be a good time for him to leave the race gracefully. I agree with others that health problems can happen at any age, but I do think that Trump would totally take advantage of this if Bernie ended up being the nominee. I am also concerned about the age of Bernie and Biden. Warren is enough younger that her age doesn't bother me, but she is not my first pick, either.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 7, 2019 1:17:53 GMT
Bernie Sanders is home after having a heart attack and having 2 stents placed. Do you think Bernie should continue to fight for the Democrat spot that will hopefully run Trump out of the White House? Do you think he should drop out of the race now? Just curious what other peas think. Me? Not being a big Bernie fan to begin with, I do worry about his health and how it could impact his presidency. I am also curious how his wonderful health care coverage and care will play into his health care plans and how we will get others on board knowing he himself has private top notch care... I think he should have dropped out ages ago. And I partly blame him for trump's win. Bernie needs to go. Find a lovely small Vermont town, the kind with a town square and lovely houses with front porches... he can retire there, write his memoirs while sitting on that front porch. Done.
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Post by Gennifer on Oct 7, 2019 1:24:13 GMT
I don’t love a two-party system, but the reality is that that is how our elections work. I also don’t think that being an independent should automatically disqualify someone... to me, it just means they are not the far-left and far-right that our politicians seem to be comprised of, and are closer to the more centrist beliefs of the general population. If more of our politicians were independent/centrists, perhaps more would be accomplished, due to working across the aisles.
I’ve never been registered as a Democrat, but I would definitely say I align more with them than Republicans... if I had to choose. But why do I have to?
ETA: I am a fan of Bernie, and would have preferred him to Clinton last time. It’s definitely time for him to bow out. We need fresh blood. (I’m thinking I’m for Buttigieg right now, but I do really like Warren, too. She’s just borderline in the “too old” camp with Biden and Bernie.)
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Post by lucyg on Oct 7, 2019 1:45:47 GMT
You all sound just as pitiful and brainwashed as republicans who voted for trump because he's got the R and god forbid they vote for a D. When your party loses again because you put up mediocre candidates that don't have the country's best interests at heart, we'll just hear you complaining about the bernie bros again. You never learn. Bernie never would have won in 2016, and he won’t win in 2020, either. Not nearly enough people agree with you about him. I do appreciate the “pitiful and brainwashed” description, though. Now I know not to take anything you say about politics seriously.
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