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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 0:22:00 GMT
The Debate has started. Who is watching? What are your thoughts?
I was late tuning in, but I just caught Biden defending his son. And Warren was just rambling but I don't feel like she answered the healthcare question.
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Post by lisae on Oct 16, 2019 0:27:15 GMT
Warren is not answering the question because I believe her true answer would be that middle class families would pay more taxes and, in her opinion, less in healthcare. She knows she will lose if she truthfully answers that the key voters she needs are going to pay more in taxes. Bernie just explained how the plan she favors works. I don't want Bernie but at least he is being honest.
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 0:31:49 GMT
Warren is not answering the question because I believe her true answer would be that middle class families would pay more taxes and, in her opinion, less in healthcare. She knows she will lose if she truthfully answers that the key voters she needs are going to pay more in taxes. Bernie just explained how the plan she favors works. I don't want Bernie but at least he is being honest. I agree. Warren is skirting around the answer because she knows it wont be favorable. I am definitely not a Bernie fan but yeah, at least he is being honest. I am actually surprised at how feisty he is tonight. I figured with his heart attack he would be quieter. DH says he thinks he is just trying to prove he is healthy enough to keep moving forward.
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Post by rodeomom on Oct 16, 2019 0:35:21 GMT
I'm tired of hearing from Bernie, Warren and Boden
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 0:41:23 GMT
I'm tired of hearing from Bernie, Warren and Boden Agreed.
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Post by MaryPea on Oct 16, 2019 0:45:42 GMT
i'm watching. And i'm tired of Bernie's joke "I wrote the damn bill". It was funny the first time - happy to see him there -- all of that - but it's old and repeated so much.
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 0:55:48 GMT
I think Klobucher is making some good points tonight. I feel like I am hearing more of her than I recalled from the other debates.
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Post by MaryPea on Oct 16, 2019 1:00:31 GMT
it's not surprising but it is striking how they are beating up on Warren.
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Post by MaryPea on Oct 16, 2019 1:00:58 GMT
I think Klobucher is making some good points tonight. I feel like I am hearing more of her than I recalled from the other debates. agreed!
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 1:04:06 GMT
Booker just made a good point - they've got one chance to make Trump a one term president and all everyone wants to do is fight.
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 16, 2019 1:04:49 GMT
it's not surprising but it is striking how they are beating up on Warren. WHY? Let's hear what they will do instead of attacking.... It's the SNL opening skit, unfortunately (not laughing)
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Post by annabella on Oct 16, 2019 1:10:00 GMT
I love all of Warren’s ideas! Europe pays more taxes but has major services in life free. Americans resist this idea and the non/wealthy struggle to get by paying for everything and go into debt paying for it.
I also think Warren had a neck lift, not a single wrinkle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 1:23:17 GMT
it's not surprising but it is striking how they are beating up on Warren. Not too surprising since she's been leading in the polls!! And regarding our taxes increasing, they could increase taxes on the 1% that Trump gave huge tax breaks for thus far. I'd choose almost any of them vs what we have now, so it's a no-brainer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 1:25:32 GMT
I love all of Warren’s ideas! Europe pays more taxes but has major services in life free. Americans resist this idea and the non/wealthy struggle to get by paying for everything and go into debt paying for it. I also think Warren had a neck lift, not a single wrinkle. I agree, and regarding her age, I've been in awe!!! Her body shape, her energy level, her lack of wrinkles on her face and neck.. I never thought she was older than 60.
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Post by MaryPea on Oct 16, 2019 1:26:22 GMT
it's not surprising but it is striking how they are beating up on Warren. Not too surprising since she's been leading in the polls!! And regarding our taxes increasing, they could increase taxes on the 1% that Trump gave huge tax breaks for thus far. I'd choose almost any of them vs what we have now, so it's a no-brainer. yes!
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 1:32:47 GMT
Ugh. I used to be behind Beto for Texas. Not anymore. He wants to spout off about taking guns, but then doesn't have a real plan. He just expects his fellow Americans to follow the law. Um, hello. Law abiding gun owners are not the ones he needs to worry about.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 1:42:14 GMT
I love all of Warren’s ideas! Europe pays more taxes but has major services in life free. Americans resist this idea and the non/wealthy struggle to get by paying for everything and go into debt paying for it. I also think Warren had a neck lift, not a single wrinkle. Who pays more in taxes? Just the rich? Or everyone regardless of their income? The one thing neither Warren or Sanders is admitting is the middle class coukd very well end up paying more in taxes to get Medicare for all. If those two admitted that it would be a real possibility, no matter how they spin it, the support for it would drop. And there are already a lot of people not supporting it now. Sanders and Warren are trying to sell the American middle class and poor that they can offer them all these wonderful things and the rich will pay for it all. From what I read, other countries who do this, tax everyone a higher tax to pay for it. I don’t believe that would fly in this country.
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 2:27:18 GMT
Interesting. I hadnt heard Mayor Pete was in favor of expanding the Supreme Court. Not sure how I feel about a whole court overhaul. His plan is interesting (5 nominees would have to be approved unanimously by the other Supreme Court Judges. I need to think more about this.
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 2:31:43 GMT
I love all of Warren’s ideas! Europe pays more taxes but has major services in life free. Americans resist this idea and the non/wealthy struggle to get by paying for everything and go into debt paying for it. I also think Warren had a neck lift, not a single wrinkle. Who pays more in taxes? Just the rich? Or everyone regardless of their income? The one thing neither Warren or Sanders is admitting is the middle class coukd very well end up paying more in taxes to get Medicare for all. If those two admitted that it would be a real possibility, no matter how they spin it, the support for it would drop. And there are already a lot of people not supporting it now. Sanders and Warren are trying to sell the American middle class and poor that they can offer them all these wonderful things and the rich will pay for it all. From what I read, other countries who do this, tax everyone a higher tax to pay for it. I don’t believe that would fly in this country. Biden just called them out that their plans for Medicare for All is too expensive and there's no money for it.
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 16, 2019 2:57:19 GMT
I don't think this is going well as a whole at all...please get this party to rise to get enthusiasm to get people to vote for their cause and get people informed.....please.. please please
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 3:06:33 GMT
Crap. Biden face on that last question looked like he was about to stroke out.
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Post by mom on Oct 16, 2019 3:09:47 GMT
For me, Klobucher and Mayor Pete stood out tonight.
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 16, 2019 3:11:08 GMT
I probably should be paying better attention, but by the time the primaries come to my state, most have dropped out.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 16, 2019 11:30:05 GMT
Europe pays more taxes but has major services in life free It's NOT FREE...those high ass taxes are PAYING for those services.
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Post by lisae on Oct 16, 2019 11:31:26 GMT
For me, Klobucher and Mayor Pete stood out tonight. Klobucher has checked the boxes for me from the beginning. I just wish she would catch on. Last night was her chance as she had the 3rd most speaking time of all the candidates. I liked how the moderators jumped around and asked questions of everyone. It seemed more balanced than previous debates. Klobucher is experienced, midwestern, from a key state, the right age and most importantly, moderate. Warren with all her "I've got a plan for that" - which involves higher taxes - won't pick up any states in the south and doubtful the midwest. Biden and Sanders are too old; Biden keeps fumbling his speaking; Mayor Pete too young and inexperienced.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 16, 2019 12:14:22 GMT
For me, Klobucher and Mayor Pete stood out tonight. Klobucher has checked the boxes for me from the beginning. I just wish she would catch on. Last night was her chance as she had the 3rd most speaking time of all the candidates. I liked how the moderators jumped around and asked questions of everyone. It seemed more balanced than previous debates. Klobucher is experienced, midwestern, from a key state, the right age and most importantly, moderate. Warren with all her "I've got a plan for that" - which involves higher taxes - won't pick up any states in the south and doubtful the midwest. Biden and Sanders are too old; Biden keeps fumbling his speaking; Mayor Pete too young and inexperienced. She is my favorite as well.
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