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Post by workingclassdog on Oct 16, 2019 16:06:33 GMT
So yesterday I had to go to a seminar for work. He is a Ph.D who travels and does motivation speaking mainly to law enforcement personnel. He speaks in the US, Canada and Australia. He was saying that in Australia that the people there get one year off for every four years worked. Is that REALLY true? And you get 9 weeks of vacation per year, up front.. no waiting to build time. I can't imagine he was lying about it as I think that would be easy information to find. But really is that true? Or sorta true? Or maybe just in certain fields?
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Post by Judie in Oz on Oct 16, 2019 18:30:36 GMT
Not AussieMeg, but another Aussie. People here do not get one year off for every four years worked, and we don't get nine weeks of vacation. The standard amount of vacation time is four weeks. Some places make you wait a whole year before taking any time off, but most will let you have some time in advance (you basically accrue one week's vacation time every three months). Hope this helps.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 18:34:21 GMT
He was saying that in Australia that the people there get one year off for every four years worked. How would that even work? |
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 16, 2019 19:43:30 GMT
I can't speak for Australia, but know plenty of people in Canada that have the option of taking a sabbatical year. Their pay is adjusted so they receive a portion and the rest is banked to pay them during the year off. The terms will vary depending on the employer as to who is eligible, how often they can take a sabbatical, how it is funded, etc. This is the program my sister participated in: BC Government Employees Deferred Salary Leave Program |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 19:51:54 GMT
I can't speak for Australia, but know plenty of people in Canada that have the option of taking a sabbatical year. Their pay is adjusted so they receive a portion and the rest is banked to pay them during the year off. The terms will vary depending on the employer as to who is eligible, how often they can take a sabbatical, how it is funded, etc. This is the program my sister participated in: BC Government Employees Deferred Salary Leave ProgramThat is similar to what some companies do here but it's not law. They don't get paid for it here and they can take up to 5 years sabbatical and still return to the job they were doing before they left. But I'm not sure how long they have to be working for a company before they are eligible to do so. I would imagine it varies between employers. |
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 16, 2019 20:59:57 GMT
So yesterday I had to go to a seminar for work. He is a Ph.D who travels and does motivation speaking mainly to law enforcement personnel. He speaks in the US, Canada and Australia. He was saying that in Australia that the people there get one year off for every four years worked. Is that REALLY true? And you get 9 weeks of vacation per year, up front.. no waiting to build time. I can't imagine he was lying about it as I think that would be easy information to find. But really is that true? Or sorta true? Or maybe just in certain fields? Four weeks is standard. You can earn more, but tied to length of service, much like here. I get just on 6 weeks a year for my job here in the US, although I’ve been with the company 14 years. He might be meaning long service leave, where you get a prorated additional leave for every year worked once you’ve worked there 10, although the rules surrounding it varies from state to stare. But its most certainly NOT 1 year for every 4 years worked. 😅 Edit- Maybe in certain fields. My brother is a teacher and probably gets that much off, but it’s most certainly not upfront. It falls when school holidays do. |
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Post by 950nancy on Oct 16, 2019 22:57:02 GMT
He was saying that in Australia that the people there get one year off for every four years worked. How would that even work? It is how they pay teachers in many parts of the US. They keep their part of their pay for the first nine/ten months and spread it out over the remaining months. You aren't paid for summers off. |
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Post by rahnee on Oct 17, 2019 3:01:02 GMT
Obviously I'm not Aussiemeg but thought I would chime in as I'm another Aussie.
Wow. That would be nice but definitely not true. We get 4 weeks annual leave a year. Also Long Service leave which for us is 8 weeks leave for 10 years worked with the one employer.
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Post by AllieC on Oct 17, 2019 5:05:28 GMT
As above for most people however - people in emergency services do get additional leave. I used to work for the Victoria Country Fire Authority and our paid firefighters got up to 11 weeks annual leave, a friend's husband is a policeman and he gets around the same. This is their annual leave plus additional leave for working shifts.
I've never heard of the year off for every 4 years worked. We get long service leave after 10 years (accessible mostly pro-rata after 7 years) and that is 8 weeks. In a former job of mine we got 12 weeks after 10 years. There could be additional leave for emergency services like above but not an extra year every 4.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Oct 17, 2019 9:57:43 GMT
Maybe he meant that the people he usually addresses (law enforcement) get close to a year off in 4 years of work? 11 weeks/year = 55 weeks after 5 years of work so that could be interpreted as "a year off every 4 years" although it's actually not accurate or close to a correct reflection of reality. It's a very dreamy interpretation at best, I'd say.  |
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Post by workingclassdog on Oct 17, 2019 14:35:19 GMT
Thanks for the replies. He didn't really 'say' that it only pertained to law enforcement or firefighters.. BUT I now would assume that is what he was referring to now that I think about it.. Makes sense from @alliec response. Sounds like he really fluffed it up. Heck the whole classroom of about 350 of us were ready to jump a plane and move!! LOL..
Does sound like the Aussie's 'get' a little more personal time than the US.. even Canada..
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Oct 17, 2019 16:59:51 GMT
How much annual leave do you get in the US?
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Post by hop2 on Oct 17, 2019 17:14:17 GMT
How much annual leave do you get in the US? varies where you work I get 15 days sick leave ( must have a doctor note for more than 2 ) can bank sick leave but of course can not ‘take it with you’ when you leave. 10 days vacation ( must be planned how far ahead varies by boss, my boss needs to know a week ahead mostly unless corporate throws in a mandatory training ) use it or loose it each year. Next year at my 5th anniversary I get 5 more days each year. 3 days administrative leave for emergencies or funerals use it or loose it each year. But imho I have a generous leave policy many places have 2 weeks paid leave sick/ vacation / emergency all combined. And some places have no PTO depending on which state you live in. |
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Oct 17, 2019 22:11:59 GMT
How much annual leave do you get in the US? varies where you work I get 15 days sick leave ( must have a doctor note for more than 2 ) can bank sick leave but of course can not ‘take it with you’ when you leave. 10 days vacation ( must be planned how far ahead varies by boss, my boss needs to know a week ahead mostly unless corporate throws in a mandatory training ) use it or loose it each year. Next year at my 5th anniversary I get 5 more days each year. 3 days administrative leave for emergencies or funerals use it or loose it each year. But imho I have a generous leave policy many places have 2 weeks paid leave sick/ vacation / emergency all combined. And some places have no PTO depending on which state you live in. That's interesting. I'm in the UK and I get 4 weeks' annual leave. We don't have administrative leave. The closest we come to it is unpaid compassionate leave, and it is completely at the discretion of the management. We don't have a specified sick leave allocation either. That's all down to the management too. In my company it works in "events" rather than number of days. Last year I was taken ill at work and missed the final 2 hours of one shift. 4 months later I had 3 weeks off for scheduled surgery. Each counted as 1 event. More than 3 events in 12 months gets you a warning, and more than 4 gets you a disciplinary. As if being ill was preventable.  |
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