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Post by rrp23 on Oct 24, 2019 21:51:43 GMT
Ive been taking magnesium to help with my anxiety and depression. Im looking into following the rcp, to see if i can feel better without taking medication for these issues. If you saw a previous post, i stopped taking zoloft because i think it possibly lead to miscarriages. So while i am trying to have a baby still, im considering the rcp to help me along the way.
Im wondering about the peas who take magnesium for their health issues and/or follow the root cause protocol and what their experiences were.
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Post by mom on Oct 24, 2019 22:13:27 GMT
Just throwing this out there...but any medical advice that says you have to take their supplements is probably not the best thing.
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Post by marie on Oct 24, 2019 22:14:55 GMT
I don't know too much about it but I'm in a Facebook group called Magnesium Advocacy Group that talks about the protocol if you want to check it out.
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Post by elaine on Oct 24, 2019 22:22:55 GMT
Please don’t take stop taking prescribed medication and start taking supplements unless it is done under the supervision of a physician. Just because you don’t have to have a prescription to take any supplements on that site doesn’t mean that they are harmless.
Too much copper (one of the minerals mentioned on their site) is toxic, for example, and medical experts agree that unless you have a medical disorder, you get ALL the copper you need through your diet.
I know how hard it is to struggle with fertility, but please please please don’t start taking various supplements on your own in an attempt to control the process. You may cause more difficulties. Please rely on medical professionals to help you.
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Post by rrp23 on Oct 24, 2019 22:57:12 GMT
Just throwing this out there...but any medical advice that says you have to take their supplements is probably not the best thing. I absolutely agree with you there. I didnt see where you have to take their supplements though, unless maybe i overlooked specific wording. Even so, i wont be taking their specific brand, i think its more of a this is a pre-packaged version for convenience. Ive been taking the advice behind the supplments, but buying my vitamins from the grocery store. |
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Post by rrp23 on Oct 24, 2019 23:01:21 GMT
I don't know too much about it but I'm in a Facebook group called Magnesium Advocacy Group that talks about the protocol if you want to check it out. I have recently joined this group as well. I admit to not reading all the posts yet and was curious about opinions from people not within the group, not that im discounting the groups experience. I hope that didnt sound rude! Im skeptical, but wanting to learn more. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 24, 2019 23:03:21 GMT
Just throwing this out there...but any medical advice that says you have to take their supplements is probably not the best thing. I absolutely agree with you there. I didnt see where you have to take their supplements though, unless maybe i overlooked specific wording. Even so, i wont be taking their specific brand, i think its more of a this is a pre-packaged version for convenience. Ive been taking the advice behind the supplments, but buying my vitamins from the grocery store. Any supplements you buy in the grocery store aren’t regulated and they may, or may not, contain what it says. Whenever a consumer watch group decides to actually test supplements, the overwhelming majority have grossly different amounts of the substance they purport to have in the capsules and may contain other harmful ingredients. Just because you can buy it in the grocery store doesn’t mean it is safe. Especially if you are trying to get pregnant. |
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Post by rrp23 on Oct 24, 2019 23:08:36 GMT
Please don’t take stop taking prescribed medication and start taking supplements unless it is done under the supervision of a physician. Just because you don’t have to have a prescription to take any supplements on that site doesn’t mean that they are harmless. Too much copper (one of the minerals mentioned on their site) is toxic, for example, and medical experts agree that unless you have a medical disorder, you get ALL the copper you need through your diet. I know how hard it is to struggle with fertility, but please please please don’t start taking various supplements on your own in an attempt to control the process. You may cause more difficulties. Please rely on medical professionals to help you. My dr is aware im off the medication and why. I am honest regarding why i am taking the vitamins, and have researched pros and cons. Im not trying to make my conditions worse. When i spoke to my gynecologist, she said to do research online about what could be causing my fertility issues. I didnt particularly like that, but im trying to bring up possibilities so that my dr's can better help me. Until i have a 3rd miscarriage, my dr wont refer me to be tested, which really isnt helpful as im Getting older and there is only so much good fertility i have left. |
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Post by rrp23 on Oct 24, 2019 23:12:06 GMT
I absolutely agree with you there. I didnt see where you have to take their supplements though, unless maybe i overlooked specific wording. Even so, i wont be taking their specific brand, i think its more of a this is a pre-packaged version for convenience. Ive been taking the advice behind the supplments, but buying my vitamins from the grocery store. Any supplements you buy in the grocery store aren’t regulated and they may, or may not, contain what it says. Whenever a consumer watch group decides to actually test supplements, the overwhelming majority have grossly different amounts of the substance they purport to have in the capsules and may contain other harmful ingredients. Just because you can buy it in the grocery store doesn’t mean it is safe. Especially if you are trying to get pregnant. Im also aware of this, too. Believe me, id much rather get a dr to tell me why i cant carry a baby past 9 weeks. But it isnt easy. I just hear your overweight and older, so it will be difficult. Ok, thats true, but could there be something else thats being overlooked? |
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Post by elaine on Oct 24, 2019 23:17:30 GMT
Please don’t take stop taking prescribed medication and start taking supplements unless it is done under the supervision of a physician. Just because you don’t have to have a prescription to take any supplements on that site doesn’t mean that they are harmless. Too much copper (one of the minerals mentioned on their site) is toxic, for example, and medical experts agree that unless you have a medical disorder, you get ALL the copper you need through your diet. I know how hard it is to struggle with fertility, but please please please don’t start taking various supplements on your own in an attempt to control the process. You may cause more difficulties. Please rely on medical professionals to help you. My dr is aware im off the medication and why. I am honest regarding why i am taking the vitamins, and have researched pros and cons. Im not trying to make my conditions worse. When i spoke to my gynecologist, she said to do research online about what could be causing my fertility issues. I didnt particularly like that, but im trying to bring up possibilities so that my dr's can better help me. Until i have a 3rd miscarriage, my dr wont refer me to be tested, which really isnt helpful as im Getting older and there is only so much good fertility i have left. My point is that you very well may make things worse by taking unregulated supplements that may not contain what they say they do and contain other substances. You have no idea what you are actually putting in your body. Which, if you aren’t trying to get and sustain a pregnancy isn’t ideal, but in the case of actively trying to get pregnant and hold onto it, can be dangerous. Your gynecologist said to research potential causes, she didn’t tell you to go out and try to self-medicate. You aren’t taking vitamins, you are taking mineral supplements. And again, they are completely unregulated/uncontrolled. I had a hard time getting pregnant, so understand how hard it is and positively heartbreaking as each month/cycle goes by and you aren’t pregnant. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 24, 2019 23:18:51 GMT
Any supplements you buy in the grocery store aren’t regulated and they may, or may not, contain what it says. Whenever a consumer watch group decides to actually test supplements, the overwhelming majority have grossly different amounts of the substance they purport to have in the capsules and may contain other harmful ingredients. Just because you can buy it in the grocery store doesn’t mean it is safe. Especially if you are trying to get pregnant. Im also aware of this, too. Believe me, id much rather get a dr to tell me why i cant carry a baby past 9 weeks. But it isnt easy. I just hear your overweight and older, so it will be difficult. Ok, thats true, but could there be something else thats being overlooked?It could very well be, but you won’t find that out by taking supplements. eta: I’ll stop posting here now, because this isn’t what you want to hear. I truly wish you the best and hope that the pregnancy happens soon. |
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Post by shevy on Oct 24, 2019 23:25:13 GMT
If you're going to take mag, please take chelated mag. The other versions often lead to soft stools.
I take high absorbing 750 mg of chelated mag every day for pain, restless legs and to settle anxiety for sleeping. He's helped a lot in the last year with all of that, but is certainly not a cure for any of it. And you can OD on magnesium if you're not careful.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 25, 2019 0:50:34 GMT
Please don’t take stop taking prescribed medication and start taking supplements unless it is done under the supervision of a physician. Just because you don’t have to have a prescription to take any supplements on that site doesn’t mean that they are harmless. Too much copper (one of the minerals mentioned on their site) is toxic, for example, and medical experts agree that unless you have a medical disorder, you get ALL the copper you need through your diet. I know how hard it is to struggle with fertility, but please please please don’t start taking various supplements on your own in an attempt to control the process. You may cause more difficulties. Please rely on medical professionals to help you. My dr is aware im off the medication and why. I am honest regarding why i am taking the vitamins, and have researched pros and cons. Im not trying to make my conditions worse. When i spoke to my gynecologist, she said to do research online about what could be causing my fertility issues. I didnt particularly like that, but im trying to bring up possibilities so that my dr's can better help me. Until i have a 3rd miscarriage, my dr wont refer me to be tested, which really isnt helpful as im Getting older and there is only so much good fertility i have left. Does your insurance require that your ob/gyn refers you to see a reproductive endocrinologist? If not, before doing anything I’d make an appointment with one. Besides being the best doctor to help you sort out your pregnancy losses, they can be pretty strict about what you put in your body and can explain why. If you happen to be in the San Antonio area I’d be happy to give you a referral to an amazing RE. And I’m sorry you are going through this, it’s so difficult. |
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Post by Jen in NCal on Oct 25, 2019 2:54:28 GMT
If you're going to take mag, please take chelated mag. The other versions often lead to soft stools. I take high absorbing 750 mg of chelated mag every day for pain, restless legs and to settle anxiety for sleeping. He's helped a lot in the last year with all of that, but is certainly not a cure for any of it. And you can OD on magnesium if you're not careful. I take magnesium for these reasons also. I also have difficulty processing potassium and the mag helps with that. |
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Post by jubejubes on Oct 25, 2019 3:19:13 GMT
I would have a blood test to make sure that you have enough progesterone. I was required to insert progesterone vaginally in order for a pregnancy to go to term.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 25, 2019 3:29:56 GMT
I take Life Extensions magnesium. No loose stools here, and it is highly rated on Labdoor.com. I have not heard of the protocol that you mentioned, but I have heard the doctor who create the MAG on a podcast and I was skeptical about what he was saying.
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Post by danor98 on Oct 25, 2019 4:25:40 GMT
If you're going to take mag, please take chelated mag. The other versions often lead to soft stools. I take high absorbing 750 mg of chelated mag every day for pain, restless legs and to settle anxiety for sleeping. He's helped a lot in the last year with all of that, but is certainly not a cure for any of it. And you can OD on magnesium if you're not careful. May I ask what brand you take. I just keep looking and then get crazy confused....I’ve run into the stool issue.....😖 Thank you |
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Post by pattyraindrops on Oct 25, 2019 4:29:08 GMT
My physical therapist talked to me today about talking to my doctor about it for joint pain. Those using it for pain - is it joint pain?
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Post by dewryce on Oct 25, 2019 5:07:57 GMT
I would have a blood test to make sure that you have enough progesterone. I was required to insert progesterone vaginally in order for a pregnancy to go to term. That’s a really good point. As part of our IVF procedure I had to take shots before and after my procedure. And for whatever reason mine was still really low so I was upped to 2 shots daily, plus a pill. My RE likes the shots vs suppositories because you can take a blood measurement to monitor it. It is something simple the ob/gyn can do if she won’t refer out. My physical therapist talked to me today about talking to my doctor about it for joint pain. Those using it for pain - is it joint pain? My rheumatologist recommended it for my muscle pain from fibromyalgia, not my joint pain from psoriatic arthritis or loose joints. For my joints my PT recommended chondroutin. (I’m sure I spelled that wrong) But it was a specific one, that I believe they sold at Costco. He said thy definitely weren’t all the same or as effective. He takes it for preventative measures. |
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Post by paperaddict on Oct 25, 2019 9:30:30 GMT
I think it is best if you can get a referral to see a reproductive endocrinologist before taking any supplements. I have gone to 3 rounds of IVF and have suffered from depression. My RE had a bunch of bloodwork for me to have done and other medical tests to try to figure out the cause of my infertility. Also I stayed on Zoloft medication because it was the "safest" antidepressant to be on for pregnancy. I also had progesterone shots too. I have a beautiful 2 month old baby girl. It was a long and challenging journey. Please seek medical advice before you start taking supplements especially if you are trying to get/stay pregnant. Also remember how important your mental health is to the process.
I wish you all the best. Please feel to PM if there are any questions about my IVF treatments that could help you.
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Post by jennyap on Oct 25, 2019 9:44:52 GMT
A direct quote from the front page of the Root Cause Protocol website:    Yeah, I wouldn't be taking advice from them. |
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Post by shevy on Oct 25, 2019 20:51:27 GMT
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Post by shevy on Oct 25, 2019 20:52:07 GMT
My physical therapist talked to me today about talking to my doctor about it for joint pain. Those using it for pain - is it joint pain? Mine is for my TMJ/jaw pain. |
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Post by danor98 on Oct 25, 2019 21:35:09 GMT
Thanks shevy just added to my Amazon cart! 😀 |
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Post by birukitty on Oct 25, 2019 22:04:03 GMT
Rrp23 I can't begin to imagine the pain you must be in. I've dealt with serious depression in my life but I haven't dealt with infertility issues. The two of those together must be overwhelming and excruciating. I am so very sorry you are going through this.
As far as supplements go-my favorite doctor is what is called an Integrative Medicine doctor. He's a board certified Internist who offers the best of conventional treatments, alternative approaches and alternative strategies. What he does is look at the body as a whole. When I go to him for my annual checkup (or a new patient for the first time) he does a full blood panel first. Then you'd have an appointment with him that lasts 30 minutes or more and he'd ask you first what's troubling you while going over your blood results. My doctor believes treating his patients is a two way street. He truly listens and he and I both come up with treatment plans to fix what is wrong. He uses both prescriptions using pharacutical medication and vitamins and supplements-based on my blood work and what he's trying to treat.
I don't take any vitamins or supplements unless he says I need to. Yes, he does sell them in his office as a convenience to his patients but I'm not under any obligation to buy them there. I order mine online. He does recommend the brand-they aren't what you can buy in any store-they are pharmacutical quality. Some of the brands include Designs for Health and Integrative Theraputics.
I do think taking vitamins and supplements without a doctor's advice can be dangerous. Maybe you can look for a doctor like this to help you in addition to your gyn doctor? I know my doctor has helped me enourmously when other doctors couldn't. He's the one who did a blood test and diagnosed me with 2 markers for the MTHFR gene which cured my 10 year battle of treatment resistant depression. Speaking of which that's a great idea for you. If you haven't done it already ask your GP for a blood test for the MTHFR markers for this gene. If you have it the marker it can cause depression. A lot of people have it and don't know it. If you do end up having it all you need to do is take a specific form of B12 (not the shots) that your body can absorb (the marker means your body can't absorb B12 the normal way) and your depression will get a lot better. For me it went away completely-the treatment resistant kind.
I wish you the very best of luck and a healthy future.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 26, 2019 0:50:24 GMT
birukitty MTHFR mutation also brings higher risks for miscarriages, it was one of the many things they tested me for after our loss. Good call.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 26, 2019 3:12:47 GMT
birukitty MTHFR mutation also brings higher risks for miscarriages, it was one of the many things they tested me for after our loss. Good call. I was going to suggest being tested for MTHFR as well. It sounds like seeing a RE could be helpful for the OP. |
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