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Post by iluvpink on Nov 6, 2019 12:04:56 GMT
DD works part time at a chain pet store. She went to Walmart last night and I noticed she had bought a utility knife, the type you use to open boxes. I asked why and she said for work to open boxes. I asked her didn't they have them at work, and she said no, you have to buy and bring your own.
That seems very odd to me. But it's been years since I worked in any sort of retail operation.
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Post by pierkiss on Nov 6, 2019 12:06:25 GMT
That seems very odd to me. When I worked retail, only store issued box cutters could be used when doing stock. Even scissors were a big no-no.
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Post by MZF on Nov 6, 2019 12:34:39 GMT
I would think the employer would provide the tools needed to do the job.
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Post by idahopea on Nov 6, 2019 13:05:37 GMT
Tell her to please be very careful using a box cutter! I had one slip and ended up with 15 stitches in my opposite hand. The ER doctors said it was a very common injury. I was very lucky to not have cut any major nerves or veins. I always wear leather work gloves when using one now.
I cannot believe she has to provide her own cutter!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 13:21:51 GMT
DD works part time at a chain pet store. She went to Walmart last night and I noticed she had bought a utility knife, the type you use to open boxes. I asked why and she said for work to open boxes. I asked her didn't they have them at work, and she said no, you have to buy and bring your own. That seems very odd to me. But it's been years since I worked in any sort of retail operation. We were provided one. Has she lost the one she started with and needs to pay for a replacement?
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Post by Restless Spirit on Nov 6, 2019 13:40:37 GMT
My DH once worked at a big box type store. They were issued plastic type box cutter (similar to plastic lettuce knives). The employees hated them because they wouldn’t cut through heavy packaging tape. The plastic type knives were issued because of the high rate of injury with utility knives. That didn’t stop employees from buying the regular utility knives out of pure frustration. They just kept them hidden from their bosses.
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Post by disneypal on Nov 6, 2019 13:40:46 GMT
Not retail, but I have a friend that works in the restaurant business and needed a box opener and she had to purchase her own.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Nov 6, 2019 13:46:55 GMT
I think it's common that people have to buy their own clothes or uniforms for work, but I've never heard of buying a supply like a box cutter.
Except teachers, of course! It's ridiculous how much they have to buy that should be provided for them.
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Post by iluvpink on Nov 6, 2019 13:54:30 GMT
DD works part time at a chain pet store. She went to Walmart last night and I noticed she had bought a utility knife, the type you use to open boxes. I asked why and she said for work to open boxes. I asked her didn't they have them at work, and she said no, you have to buy and bring your own. That seems very odd to me. But it's been years since I worked in any sort of retail operation. We were provided one. Has she lost the one she started with and needs to pay for a replacement? I don't think so. She said everyone had to buy their own. And when I was asking she said "Mom, they only gave me one t-shirt, of course they made me buy my own knife". She didn't seem particularly surprised or bothered. I however was.
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Post by monklady123 on Nov 6, 2019 13:57:08 GMT
Of course they *can*.... any business can really do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal. (well, sometimes they do those things too, but you know what I mean... ) Whether they *should* is another story, but I'm quite sure there's no law that says "businesses must provide all supplies that employees need to do their jobs".
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Post by mich5481 on Nov 6, 2019 14:13:10 GMT
When I waited tables, I had to provide my own waiter's corkscrew and pens for customers to use. I had a lot of pens stolen from me by customers, who probably thought the restaurant had paid for them.
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Post by aleighl55 on Nov 6, 2019 14:47:19 GMT
They can make you buy your own supplies but you should be able to claim them as business expenses on your taxes.
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Post by snyder on Nov 6, 2019 15:03:25 GMT
When I waited tables, I had to provide my own waiter's corkscrew and pens for customers to use. I had a lot of pens stolen from me by customers, who probably thought the restaurant had paid for them. I just learned this about a year ago. I was astonished when the waitress made sure she had her pen back and said it was the only one she had left for the night as she had several taken and hadn't brought more with her. Never dreamed a restaurant made their staff supply the pens. I understand is a weeeeee way, in that they might not be as responsible making sure they get them back and may loose more, but one can buy cheap Stic Bics for a little of nothing when bought in bulk. Probably not a huge expense overall for a restaurant.
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Post by malibou on Nov 6, 2019 15:17:57 GMT
Way back when I was a cocktail waitress we had to supply pens and they were constantly being nicked. My brother, who was a waiter as well, had cheapy Bic pens engraved with weird sayings for me. I didn't lose as many then.
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Post by busy on Nov 6, 2019 15:20:28 GMT
They can make you buy your own supplies but you should be able to claim them as business expenses on your taxes. You can no longer claim unreimbursed job-related expenses on your taxes. Thanks, Trump!
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Post by mich5481 on Nov 6, 2019 15:50:05 GMT
When I waited tables, I had to provide my own waiter's corkscrew and pens for customers to use. I had a lot of pens stolen from me by customers, who probably thought the restaurant had paid for them. I just learned this about a year ago. I was astonished when the waitress made sure she had her pen back and said it was the only one she had left for the night as she had several taken and hadn't brought more with her. Never dreamed a restaurant made their staff supply the pens. I understand is a weeeeee way, in that they might not be as responsible making sure they get them back and may loose more, but one can buy cheap Stic Bics for a little of nothing when bought in bulk. Probably not a huge expense overall for a restaurant. Some restaurants buy cheap pens printed with their logo and/or information, so then if people steal them, they at least are advertising for them when they use them in public. It may count as an advertising expense for the restaurant too. My old restaurant was sold to new owners, and when I went back there years later, the server had a pen with the restaurant's logo. That one may have come home with me...
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Post by mich5481 on Nov 6, 2019 15:52:52 GMT
Way back when I was a cocktail waitress we had to supply pens and they were constantly being nicked. My brother, who was a waiter as well, had cheapy Bic pens engraved with weird sayings for me. I didn't lose as many then. I wound up getting a set of fairly heavy weight pens from Sam's or Costco and used those for my customers. They were maybe a buck each, so not cheap, but also not super pricey. I actually wound up getting better tips, as I think it enhanced the dining experience (upscale independent restaurant owned by a James Beard award winning chef). I also never had any of those pens stolen, as I guess people realized they didn't belong to them. The problem with a cheapo pen is customers often think it is their pen. 🤷♀️
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 6, 2019 15:55:27 GMT
she should be provided one- if she's using her own and has an accident, the store could say 'well, she wasn't using one we provided so we can't prove it was used safely.'
There have GOT to be safety standards and policies- safety using things like box cutters, etc. SHOULD be addressed in training so they (the store) can avoid potential workman's comp claims. Is there? who knows- but if it's a large chain company company I would THINK they would have safety standards and procedures that address how to do your job safely.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 16:01:31 GMT
I purchased my own box cutter with retractable blade when I worked retail because I got tired of having to waste time tracking down a mangled and dull knife in the storeroom. I kept mine in my pocket. So it was a matter of personal preference.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 16:04:45 GMT
They can make you buy your own supplies but you should be able to claim them as business expenses on your taxes. That deduction is gone. Most kids working retail would not have itemized anyway.
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Post by malibou on Nov 6, 2019 16:10:32 GMT
Way back when I was a cocktail waitress we had to supply pens and they were constantly being nicked. My brother, who was a waiter as well, had cheapy Bic pens engraved with weird sayings for me. I didn't lose as many then. I wound up getting a set of fairly heavy weight pens from Sam's or Costco and used those for my customers. They were maybe a buck each, so not cheap, but also not super pricey. I actually wound up getting better tips, as I think it enhanced the dining experience (upscale independent restaurant owned by a James Beard award winning chef). I also never had any of those pens stolen, as I guess people realized they didn't belong to them. The problem with a cheapo pen is customers often think it is their pen. 🤷♀️ I can see that your way would work. I too think it is all about making the customer aware it's not their pen. My cheapy Bics had a rough spot from the engraving which would make them look at it. They said things like Mine, Poison Pen, Don't Even. They would always giggle and give my pen back. Several wanted to know where I got them and one lady asked to buy one. I gave it to her.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 6, 2019 16:19:03 GMT
I would bet they aren't supplied because they aren't "necessary". The management would probably say that the kids could tear open the boxes without one.
Yeah, teachers.....the hundreds of dollars I put into my classroom yearly was horrible. I didn't need to buy the things I did. The school/admin did not require it. I felt to enhance my student's education I needed books for them to read. I needed supplies for projects. I needed pizza boxes for portfolio storage. I needed extra tables, a mailbox, a slotted box for homework, tubs for storage of stuff, shelving and hooks, to just name a few things.
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Post by workingclassdog on Nov 6, 2019 16:25:29 GMT
I had to always supply my own pens as a waitress.. never thought about it really.
The box opener though, I would think that is a huge liability for the company. When I worked at my grocery store, they provided special box openers so that they couldn't take you hand out. They had to check them in/out.
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Post by tripletmom on Nov 6, 2019 17:03:34 GMT
I had to supply my own box cutter when I worked back room at Target.
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Post by nlwilkins on Nov 6, 2019 17:07:53 GMT
I was astounded when I found out that cutters at Hancocks provided their own scissors. The ones I talked to though preferred it as anything provided by the store would be duller than a butter knife.
The thing with box cutters is there are good ones and there are not so good ones. Plus, the blade would get dull fast and need replacing yet if it was the store's cutter, no one would take responsibility for it. Then there is the issue of the box cutter accidentally going home in someone's pocket and then never making it back. I'm sure that would happen very often.
Of course they could do what my school did about staplers and tape dispensers. We had to check them out at the beginning of the year and then check them back in at the end of the school year. I always tried to get mine as early as possible to be sure and get a decent set.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 6, 2019 17:09:21 GMT
They can make you buy your own supplies but you should be able to claim them as business expenses on your taxes. Not anymore!
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Post by Sparki on Nov 6, 2019 19:59:14 GMT
I worked at Petsmart for a brief time and they provided the utility knives/box cutters. I had to buy my own khaki pants and approved shoes and they provided the shirts.
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Post by cecilia on Nov 6, 2019 20:11:42 GMT
When I worked for Wal Mart they provided box cutters to those who were on the sales floor stocking.
I worked for them when they switched from vests to a standard uniform/no vests. They provided 2 navy polos and $15 to purchase khaki or brown pants. Other additional uniform purchases were on our own.
ETA: The $15 was added to our paychecks and taxed IIRC.
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Post by Merge on Nov 6, 2019 20:16:58 GMT
So what happens if she shows up to work without box cutters? I'm curious.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Nov 6, 2019 20:28:10 GMT
DS works for PetSmart and they provide their employees with box cutters.
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