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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 16, 2019 19:31:48 GMT
We are seriously thinking about moving from our 1940s home to a new home they are building just a few miles away. It would be brand new and in a small group of newly built similar homes. If we bought now we would be able to pick the upgrades (some of them, some have already been prechosen) and finishes etc. I have always loved older homes with character etc but man this house requires a lot of upkeep and it is tiring me out. Brand new just seems so nice.
I am going in today to discuss the pricing, the logistics etc. Just curious if anyone had any advice in general on the process and if you enjoyed it or if it was stressful? What things are typically negotiable?
Going from an older home to a newer home also would be such a change, the new home would actually have AC, something we have never had (and never needed, though our summers now keep getting hotter and hotter). Curious if anyone did a similar move and if you loved it or regretted it....
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Post by ameslou on Nov 16, 2019 19:39:30 GMT
We have (and ironically, we are now in a house built in the 60s and are considering moving bc of the constant upkeep).
When we had a new build house several years ago, we had to pay for Blinds on all the windows (new builds don’t have them) Money and time in getting a new lawn started Fence for kids and pets Garage shelving (and probably other closets too)
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 16, 2019 19:45:49 GMT
I have done both.
1st House: 10 years old when we bought in 1993 2nd House: built new, picked finishes 3rd house: 6 years old, lived in by builder who sold to us 4th house: 83 years old when bought in 2005
Yes, I miss the convenience of a new(er) home with no issues due to wear and tear and upgraded technology. However, in general you cannot buy the character of an old home in an established neighborhood. The cost to try and build new in an old established neighborhood is way out of my budget. All of our other houses were in the suburbs, I like living near the core of the city with everything I need within walking distance. Plus I just like old things.
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Post by Patter on Nov 16, 2019 19:46:54 GMT
We have owned 4 homes in our marriage--3 of which we had built and moved in brand new. Only our current house was "used," and it was 5 years old when we bought it. I love a new house. I love the process of building and picking things. So does hubby. We love our current home too but it had everything in it we would have chosen. It fit us like a glove so we bought our first "used" home. I don't ever see a downside to building because we personally enjoy it. And yours sounds like it would be farther along to the fun stuff!
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Post by lucyg on Nov 16, 2019 19:59:40 GMT
My current house was a new build 37 years ago when we bought it. After having been in an old, falling-apart house for a couple of years after we got married, I was thrilled to get into something new. It’s been relatively easy over the years to keep up with the maintenance and fixes. Older houses can be beautiful and charming, and I will admit to fantasizing about living in one again ... but lordy, it’s nice to have up-to-date electricity and plumbing, windows that don’t leak, etc.
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Post by caangel on Nov 16, 2019 19:59:51 GMT
We did the best of both worlds. Gutted our 30yr old home and added a second story. We LOVE our neighborhood but needed more room. We doubled our space and reconfigured it for they way our family lives. Best decision ever!
When we are ready to sell we think it will be highly desirable as it has features not common to our neighborhood including being a 2 story with a master on each level.
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Post by luckyjune on Nov 16, 2019 20:12:51 GMT
We bought our main house as a new build, 15 years ago. My advice is to get an inspection, even though the house is new. Our inspection revealed that the flexible tubing that is used for the HVAC system was resting on the ground in our crawlspace, due to "material" in the tubing. When I asked what the "material" was, the inspector said it was most likely human waste. We had the tubing replaced and inspected again, to make sure it was fixed. Grossness.
Also, when you do your final walk-through, be picky. You are paying dearly for new construction, so make sure everything meets your standards. I found scratches in cabinets, doors that didn't close properly, and spots where the carpet was not installed properly.
We found out that our new home did not come with window screens, which is ridiculous. My brother owns a construction company and he said that all windows come with screens; large construction companies don't want to deal with them, so they don't install them. Our first purchase was custom made screens for all the windows and the sliding glass door.
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Post by seaexplore on Nov 16, 2019 20:15:14 GMT
New is so much fun! I've built (my sweat equity in it) with my husband 2 homes we've personally lived in. We've built together many more. I love love love building new. You get to pick everything you want. Once you do it, you'll find stuff you want to have differently in "the next house" almost right away. We designed our 3rd home within 2 years of living here. VERY similar floor plan but more rooms and slightly different configuration. Just need to find the right property. We've been here since 2004. I ADORE this place but want me own office, not shared with DH. I also want a pool and more land. We're on a heavy 1/3 acre. I could do with about 3 acres.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 20:21:01 GMT
We are seriously thinking about moving from our 1940s home to a new home they are building just a few miles away. It would be brand new and in a small group of newly built similar homes. If we bought now we would be able to pick the upgrades (some of them, some have already been prechosen) and finishes etc. I have always loved older homes with character etc but man this house requires a lot of upkeep and it is tiring me out. Brand new just seems so nice. I am going in today to discuss the pricing, the logistics etc. Just curious if anyone had any advice in general on the process and if you enjoyed it or if it was stressful? What things are typically negotiable? Going from an older home to a newer home also would be such a change, the new home would actually have AC, something we have never had (and never needed, though our summers now keep getting hotter and hotter). Curious if anyone did a similar move and if you loved it or regretted it.... I've lived in both an older home and a new one we watched be built from the ground up. For the new, what is negotiable depends on the builder and the home's community set up. Ours was a designed community which meant there was no negotiation on exterior or wall placement inside. Flooring, interior paint, interior doors and cabinetry was negotiable. It came with blinds that matched the rest of the community. Landscaping and lawns were also part of the package which we did not control and didn't have to deal with. Other new builds leave landscaping up to you. So you need to ask what is negotiable. I didn't find it particularly stressful, like a remodel, since very little was a choice for me to make. It was just a matter of waiting. What choices I did make was from a rather limited source the builder worked with so it wasn't wide open. I loved our new house. Hard to believe it is almost 20 years old now. How stressful it will be depends on how much you control. The more you control and have choice about the higher the stress. If you are using a neighborhood with model homes there are fewer things in your control so the stress goes down.
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Post by Lexica on Nov 16, 2019 21:40:39 GMT
I have purchased two homes in my life so far, both new builds. I've been in this house about 35 years now and the upkeep is hard on me - not due to problems with the house but my health in keeping up a larger home. I don't need 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms just for myself.
In looking in areas to buy when I get this house packed up and sold, I am torn between new and old homes. I do like the fact that everything is new and clean in a new build, but have learned that the quality isn't as nice as those built many years ago by more skilled craftsmen. I am also very drawn to the character in an old home. My style of decorating would work much better in an old home as well. And I'd love a basement, something I'm not seeing done in the new homes in the same cities with older homes having basements.
What I hope to buy is an old home that someone else has already gone into and updated everything from the wiring to the plumbing, but left things like the original wood floors and kitchen cabinets, if they are cool. I've seen many of these homes on the realtor sites and hope to find one to buy.
If I cannot find an older home that has been redone, I am considering buying an older home that needs everything redone and hiring a contractor to handle it. That will depend on the price and me finding someplace else to live during the renovation work.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 16, 2019 22:11:31 GMT
We had our house built and moved in new. One thing all the builders screwed everybody in this area on was packing the dirt so lots of people have space under their concrete (driveway, paths, porch, patios) that will probably crack and need fixed in the future. We had ours filled withing 6 months of living here, but others didn't and now they are experiencing issues.
Also blinds or something to cover windows before you move in. You can get paper blinds that you stick on, but you dont want to spend the first day also having to install curtain rods and curtains or blinds in your bedroom/bathrooms (others can wait).
See if you can add outlets/canned lights/light switches. Even though we added, now we wish we had done some more.
Know that you will probably need to do yard, fence, sprinkler system.
Measure well for your fridge and make sure you order in time for it to be installed when you need it.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Nov 16, 2019 22:18:29 GMT
We've bought several new homes. Besides the fact of everything being brand new, sometimes moving into a new subdivision is nice as everyone gets to know their neighbors and can build friendships because everyone is in the same boat.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 16, 2019 23:59:38 GMT
Our first house was a hundred years old and had some cute features, but it was tiny and had no storage and needed a ton of upgrading (including building a garage because all it came with was a small falling down shed).
Our current house was built in the early 80’s and is a huge improvement. Much of the main floor and some of the second story was updated in 2000 the original owners added to expand the house and garage.
We ended up rebuilding our lake cabin basically from the ground up last winter. We had to choose virtually everything because we worked with a draftsman to design the entire build to fit the existing footprint of the original cabin, only to find out later that much of what was already there that we planned to build on top of ended up having to be torn down too. As a result of that, a lot of it was changed several times.
For us it was not enjoyable at all because we had to spend another $50k we hadn’t planned on spending, so from that point on it was all about finding ways to cut our costs and do anything we could do ourselves that we would have preferred to pay someone to do. We also had to choose cheaper things than we would have liked because the budget for everything was either slashed or non-existent. I’m just thankful that it was only a lake home and not our permanent residence, because that would have been even more stressful.
At one point, I think DH and I both got to the place of decision overload and we were just totally sick of making decisions. What kind of cabinets? What type of flooring? Tile color and pattern? Paint colors, what type of light fixtures and where should they go? Where did we want the outlets and switches? Windows or a patio door in the master? How big should the deck be and what material? Where did we want the outdoor lights, and what type? Ugggh, endless decisions! It got SO old. DH is very lucky that I’m kind of thrifty, that I’m a very good bargain hunter and not very picky. I was able to find some smoking hot deals on certain things we needed that ended up working out perfectly.
And then once it was mostly done, it started all over again because our existing furniture and window coverings weren’t going to work at all so we have to make some changes with that stuff too (that we’re still in the process of).
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Post by malibou on Nov 17, 2019 0:20:51 GMT
Definitely get an inspection done. Builders like short cuts and that can lead to problems down the road. Look carefully at where your outlets are and be sure they reach like you want for vacuuming. Open and close every window and door. Throw a good sized wad of toilet paper into the toilets and flush. Check the appliance hook ups. Try out your outside spigots. Check that the fencing is stable.
We bought new and got to pick some things, think carefully about what you want and what it's wear and tear will be like. We asked the builder to add another shelf in all of our closets as there was ample room. We also asked for a window in our master bedroom to be made into a sliding glass door. Because flooring wasn't done yet and we were repainting, that wasn't a problem, and they didn't charge us because we had the same slider as the one off the kitchen installed.
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 17, 2019 1:19:53 GMT
I'd love to live in a home that was a new build, but it's the landscaping costs that would concern me. Around here, that's not part of the home purchase. Our home was less than ten years old. The lawn wasn't in great condition, but it was better than starting from scratch. Still, we added a fence and sprinkler system.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 17, 2019 1:44:31 GMT
If possible get a natural gas generator as an upgrade--especially if you are in a rural area, or a hurricane prone area. It comes on automatically if the power goes out and you always have electricity.
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Post by Gennifer on Nov 17, 2019 7:59:09 GMT
Our first home was 75 years old. Our second home was 5 years old, but had only been lived in for 2 by a single woman. Our current (forever) home was about 20 years old when we bought it. It's the sweet spot for me... old enough to have established trees (we actually live in the woods, surrounded by mature trees) but still new enough to not need structural repairs... all of our renovations have been ones we wanted to do, not ones we needed to do.
Personally, I really hate neighborhoods where every third house is the same. I would only consider a new build if it was a custom home, where I bought property and had my own architect/house plans, and it wasn't part of a subdivision.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 12:06:11 GMT
I’ve had a little bit of everything. Our first home was a ten years old but was built by a builder that works to make new homes that look old. My children were born in this house and we all LOVED this house. It was built in an older, more established neighborhood. There were a few young kids but mostly older couples who all wanted to grandparent our kids.
Our second house was newly built in a subdivision with an HOA. We were looking for our kids to have many playmates and there was a pool etc. This wasn’t our cup of tea. The houses basically looked the same, the HOA has pluses and minuses and we really felt those people didn’t live as we live.
We are now in our third, and possibly, final house. We would probably only move if there was an opportunity for more land. Our house was built in 1980. There is definitely constant upkeep and some of it is just due to living rurally. It is remote and quiet and unique. No two houses look the same. Loads of privacy and every house is different. We figured out along the way that we aren’t “fancy.” We live a laid back life and love a comfortable house where people come in and out. Everything we do in this house we strongly consider longevity, durability and durability. There is no keeping up with the Joneses.
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Post by trixiecat on Nov 17, 2019 12:39:31 GMT
We bought new 22 years ago. My husband had connections with the construction manager and he gave us a list of the top 10 upgrades we should get, like crown molding in rooms or painting the spindles white instead of going with the stain. The price of the upgrades were ridiculous so we chose to do those after the fact and saved a ton of money. Only upgrade things that can't be upgraded later (for example we had the option to raise our basement ceiling an extra foot).
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Nov 17, 2019 14:47:38 GMT
We moved from a home built in the 1920s to our new custom build in 2007. We *love* old houses and set out to build in the style of a craftsman 4-square, but with the improvements (9' ceilings, actual insulation) and conveniences (central vac, outlets EVERYWHERE) of a newer home. We heard a lot of "huh? nobody does that anymore!" during the process, but in the end, we got almost everything we wanted (apparently really nobody does completely flat ceilings anymore, because that was going to be a CRAZY expensive upgrade), and we love it.
I don't know that I would be happy in a current style new build, though, and most of them just don't feel homey to me. The biggest surprise is that we have 3x the square footage of the old house, and it still only costs about 60% of what it did for the old house - and is more consistent and comfortable. As we're on acreage and controlled the whole build, we still have wonderful large, old trees around and didn't have to do much landscaping-wise.
My advice would be as others have said - be super nitpicky about the final check! Also, consider whether this is your forever house or not when deciding on upgrades. If it is, just get what you like and don't worry about resale values, etc. We went against the grain with formica counters and beautiful red oak cabinets and trim throughout the house stained brown cherry. We're going to be living with it until we're dead, disabled, or dementia-ed enough that we can't be here anymore, and that's hopefully 30 years or more away. By the time we're ready to sell, I'm sure people will want something other than the 2019 trends anyway.
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Post by cakediva on Nov 17, 2019 15:19:11 GMT
We have only ever built new. All subdivision builds, nothing custom. And we've loved them all.
First house we were newlyweds and took a "paint credit" - we painted the entire house ourselves and got money taken off the cost of the house. Never again.
Second house we tweaked a couple things but nothing major.
Third house we did several upgrades (door into the basement from outside for my future cake kitchen, upgraded shingles, a few extra lights and switches, that kind of thing). We are still in this home and will be until we can no longer take care of it ourselves.
I loved being able to pick every finish in each house. We did have to start from scratch on the exterior of each house though. Grass is included, but paved driveway was only included as an upgrade on the second house So we've had to do driveways, fences & decks ourselves, plus any landscaping. This particular house didn't have a front porch (the front door is set in about 5 feet so there is a bit of one, but we still have the builder concrete stair forms and patio stones) so this coming spring we are finally getting the front landscaping done. New concrete stairs the full width of the porch, plus a platform in concrete across the front so we have more of a porch a few steps down from the door, some rocks and a proper path.
And while it has taken 10 years, we kind of do a project every couple of years. Deck was the first big project, and we are lucky that DH is handy enough to do it all himself. Then we did fence - athough one side was already done by the neighbours (DH did the work in exchange for them buying the wood) and the back was done by the builder with chain link (we back onto a greenspace). So the trade off for brand new, exactly as we want on the interior, is a blank slate on the exterior that we had to finish on our own.
I liked the idea of new, never lived in. And slowly we've done decor/paint in each room and are down to only one room (open living/dining area) that has way high ceilings so I have to pay to have it painted because I'm not getting up that high! We've made this our own bit by bit and would do it again.
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Post by belgravia on Nov 17, 2019 15:19:48 GMT
We have purchased brand new homes twice. Currently we are in a 30 year old home in a beautiful, quiet neighborhood. Our house had been renovated and updated before we purchased it seven years ago. With a brand new home you have a lot of up front costs...landscaping, irrigation, deck, fence, window coverings, possible basement finishing, etc. With an older home you have stuff like roof, windows, eavestroughs, etc. So it’s expensive either way, there’s really no getting around it! I will say that in my city, we have had such a construction boom that the quality of new construction is generally inferior to that of existing older homes. Unless, of course, you build a custom home with an excellent builder.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 17, 2019 16:28:58 GMT
I will also add that who the builder is makes a HUGE difference too. The guy who built our cabin came highly recommended by neighbors and we knew he was good because he had a two year long waitlist. When he had a surprise opening come up late last fall, we jumped at it in a hot minute. He would have been worth the wait and was definitely worth every penny. He did meticulous work.
The former contractor who worked on the cabin previously cut a lot of corners and did a lot of things just flat out wrong. The ultimate result was tens of thousands of dollars of hidden water damage, so it’s imperative to check references. Some problems won’t surface until years or even decades later and at that point you may not have any (or very limited) recourse.
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Post by wallyagain on Nov 17, 2019 17:16:16 GMT
We have bought two inventory homes and rented a house that was brand new. In between there was a 30 year old house that we redid everything in it,
The rental was the one that we picked apart, finding cut corners, but it was mostly cosmetic, nothing serious.
This house came with a 5 year warranty, and the first year pretty much covers everything. The house came with front grass and concrete driveway and we negotiated grass in the back and a concrete pad at the walk out basement door. It also had a deck.
Be really picky, get them to fix it right away. You pay good money, it should be done correctly. We would have upgraded a couple of things, had we had that option. But this works for us and when we do want to change things, we have done most of the work ourselves.
Have fun.
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 17, 2019 20:15:08 GMT
Thank you everyone for your input. We went back yesterday to look at the floor plans again and which lot would be best. Such a hard decision! I honestly don't know how I am going to decide. They are only doing one home of the floor plan we want and it would be finished in May or June, we would put 3% down as a deposit (we are in the bay area so that is not a small amount, but is OK). But since there is only one home with this floor plan I do feel some pressure to decide. They have lowered the prices by $100k already, but he said he is certain there will be no more price adjustments, and they might even go up in the spring when people are more likely to be looking.
There are pros and cons with it. My oldest just went out of state at college and my second will be going away in the fall, so it will just be my high school freshman at home, he really really wants to move and loves the home. It is much closer to his high school, he could actually walk. May or June would also be nice because we could take our time with cleaning this house out and repairing stuff.
The home is a small development of new homes in an already established area, so there are big trees etc. The home itself has barely any outdoor space and is landscaped with drought tolerant plants, so there would basically be no landscaping we would need to do (except adding some hardscape for a patio area). For window coverings, the model home was shown with plantation shutters and I think we would do that. Again...a big decision...not sure what to do
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 20:58:23 GMT
We built/stilling working on our second house ourselves.
It would have been nice to have someone to help us make decisions. P
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 17, 2019 21:01:43 GMT
We built/stilling working on our second house ourselves. It would have been nice to have someone to help us make decisions. P I honestly don’t think I could build one myself - I would be completely overwhelmed with options - but I’m sure yours will turn out amazing and it certainly sounds fun if you can handle it. I think this method would be perfect for us right now - as we are both working a lot etc...
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Post by birdy on Nov 17, 2019 21:03:23 GMT
We've built twice. The homes weren't already being built, we picked the lots and the styles of houses we wanted. Picked colors, finishes, flooring, all of that. I loved the process and would do it again! The past 2 places we've lived (live in) have been "used." We basically gutted our last place and redid it all. Our current home (forever home) was built in 1968 and we bought from the previous owner who never upgraded anything. We've been here 13 years and have upgraded everything with the exception of 1 bathroom. New is nice because you can pick everything out that you want right from the start!
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Post by mimi3566 on Nov 17, 2019 21:20:15 GMT
We just closed and moved into a newly built home from a developer. We chose the lot, the model, elevation, exterior paint color scheme and all the interior options such as cabinets, flooring, carpet, etc...Of course these were from options that the developer offers you. In other words you can't choose something else they dont' have and ask them to include in the build process...For the options we either didn't like or thought were too expensive, we just went with the "builder grade", which is basically the ones the builder includes with the price of the home. For us that was all of the faucets as we didn't like the builder's options and since both my dh & I are pretty handy we've changed them out with ones we liked better and for a lot less $$. Where we upgraded with the builder was the cabinetry, flooring and carpets in addition to adding extra outlets, flush mounted LED lighting in certain rooms, french doors on the home office, surround sound speakers in the ceiling in the family room and pre-plumbing in the garage for a utility sink. Those were things we didn't want to have to deal with after close.
All in all we enjoyed the process although there were some frustrating moments and I would do it again.
The builders have designers in their design centers to help you with making design choices to achieve the look your like, keeping your budget in mind.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 21:26:07 GMT
We built/stilling working on our second house ourselves. It would have been nice to have someone to help us make decisions. P I honestly don’t think I could build one myself - I would be completely overwhelmed with options - but I’m sure yours will turn out amazing and it certainly sounds fun if you can handle it. I think this method would be perfect for us right now - as we are both working a lot etc... It’s just a plain house. Except for the extra huge shower. It was supposed to be just a garage shop, but we can’t afford the real house. But we still had to pick out flooring and lights and paint and tile.....
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