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Post by voltagain on Feb 28, 2022 4:48:02 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 28, 2022 4:55:34 GMT
I hope that nothing happens to the family members of those who surrendered. I do feel badly for the troops if they didn’t know what they were sent there for, but if that is the case, what what did think they were supposed to be doing?
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Post by voltagain on Feb 28, 2022 5:04:47 GMT
I hope that nothing happens to the family members of those who surrendered. I do feel badly for the troops if they didn’t know what they were sent there for, but if that is the case, what what did think they were supposed to be doing? Yeah, that is what confused me too. There is another story floating around about some Russian troops that ran out of gas and stopped in at a police station to ask if they could help with getting gas. And a Russian tank that broke down, a Ukrainian tow driver offered to tow him home to Russia. It sounds like Russia has not set up a good supply chain (yet)
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Post by katlady on Feb 28, 2022 6:07:39 GMT
Wow! Hope that is true! If you have Instagram, you should check out "oafnation_actual". They are posting videos and photos from inside Ukraine. There is footage of average civilians doing all they can to help, like standing in front of Russian vehicles. There is some light humor, like the farmer towing away a broken down Russian vehicle. But, there is also footage of bombings.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 28, 2022 7:39:57 GMT
Yeah, that is what confused me too. There is another story floating around about some Russian troops that ran out of gas and stopped in at a police station to ask if they could help with getting gas. And a Russian tank that broke down, a Ukrainian tow driver offered to tow him home to Russia. It sounds like Russia has not set up a good supply chain (yet) I've seen sit-coms that were less comedic than what you're describing! Best news I've heard all day.
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Post by Katiepotatie on Feb 28, 2022 9:07:34 GMT
liveuamap.com/?fbclid=IwAR1sSoR3XtgjJ8h-VvVyyCLplm-A1197tEInMELyhxoTCmBPMhRdWxSQnD0A friend who used to live there shared this. Perhaps you’ve seen it. Occasionally there are live streams. Live Universal Awareness Map (“Liveuamap”) is an open, data driven platform dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important global news on topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons deployment, health matters, natural disasters, and much more.
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Post by voltagain on Feb 28, 2022 13:48:25 GMT
liveuamap.com/?fbclid=IwAR1sSoR3XtgjJ8h-VvVyyCLplm-A1197tEInMELyhxoTCmBPMhRdWxSQnD0A friend who used to live there shared this. Perhaps you’ve seen it. Occasionally there are live streams. Live Universal Awareness Map (“Liveuamap”) is an open, data driven platform dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important global news on topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons deployment, health matters, natural disasters, and much more. I have not seen it. Thank you for posting it. That is heartbreaking.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 28, 2022 14:23:31 GMT
Wow! Hope that is true! If you have Instagram, you should check out "oafnation_actual". They are posting videos and photos from inside Ukraine. There is footage of average civilians doing all they can to help, like standing in front of Russian vehicles. There is some light humor, like the farmer towing away a broken down Russian vehicle. But, there is also footage of bombings. I will look, there is a video of the tow truck encounter.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 28, 2022 14:31:41 GMT
Found it!! Check the sunflowers too !! A woman confronts a Russian soldier and offers him a pack of sunflower seeds.... the national flower of Ukraine and tells him in no uncertain terms 'Take these seeds and put them in your pockets so at least sunflowers will grow when you all lie down here' ( I can't embed the video for some reason but here's the link to the Guardian LINKThen you have another Ukraine citizens saying to a broken down armoured Russian tank "Can I tow you back to Russia?':
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Post by tracylynn on Feb 28, 2022 16:42:33 GMT
I hope that nothing happens to the family members of those who surrendered. I do feel badly for the troops if they didn’t know what they were sent there for, but if that is the case, what what did think they were supposed to be doing? Yeah, that is what confused me too. There is another story floating around about some Russian troops that ran out of gas and stopped in at a police station to ask if they could help with getting gas. And a Russian tank that broke down, a Ukrainian tow driver offered to tow him home to Russia. It sounds like Russia has not set up a good supply chain (yet) I don't think Russia expected to need a supply chain to be honest. They didn't plan on resistance to this level. Fools. I honestly think it might be too late to get a supply chain set up. Ukrainian citizens are making Molotov cocktail bombs to help in defense.
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Post by mom on Feb 28, 2022 16:45:08 GMT
Yeah, that is what confused me too. There is another story floating around about some Russian troops that ran out of gas and stopped in at a police station to ask if they could help with getting gas. And a Russian tank that broke down, a Ukrainian tow driver offered to tow him home to Russia. It sounds like Russia has not set up a good supply chain (yet) I don't think Russia expected to need a supply chain to be honest. They didn't plan on resistance to this level. Fools. I honestly think it might be too late to get a supply chain set up. Ukrainian citizens are making Molotov cocktail bombs to help in defense. I've seen a TikTok that someone posted that showed a street corner when people were bringing all the Molotov cocktails they had been making. There were a ton of them, all lined up and ready to be thrown. I don't think Russia expected the people to rise to the occasion, but they absolutely have.
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Post by used2scrap on Feb 28, 2022 17:34:41 GMT
I hope that nothing happens to the family members of those who surrendered. I do feel badly for the troops if they didn’t know what they were sent there for, but if that is the case, what what did think they were supposed to be doing? Training exercises most likely.
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Post by voltagain on Feb 28, 2022 18:09:57 GMT
I don't think Russia expected to need a supply chain to be honest. They didn't plan on resistance to this level. Fools. I honestly think it might be too late to get a supply chain set up. Ukrainian citizens are making Molotov cocktail bombs to help in defense. I've seen a TikTok that someone posted that showed a street corner when people were bringing all the Molotov cocktails they had been making. There were a ton of them, all lined up and ready to be thrown. I don't think Russia expected the people to rise to the occasion, but they absolutely have. I saw where at least one brewery was supplying bottles with special labels to be used. I am rooting for the Ukrainians. They have moxie!
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Post by pilcas on Feb 28, 2022 18:40:43 GMT
If you are a card maker you might remember Yana Smakula.she has a YouTube channel and is on Instagram. Yesterday she posted she was going out to buy supplies to make Molotov cocktails.everyone is defending their country.
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Post by Just T on Feb 28, 2022 18:42:19 GMT
If you are a card maker you might remember Yana Smakula.she has a YouTube channel and is on Instagram. Yesterday she posted she was going out to buy supplies to make Molotov cocktails.everyone is defending their country. I follow her. I recently watched a video of her craft room on her You Tube channel that she posted just a month ago, and it was so eerie to watch it know what people there are going through now.
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Post by pilcas on Feb 28, 2022 19:06:55 GMT
I hope that nothing happens to the family members of those who surrendered. I do feel badly for the troops if they didn’t know what they were sent there for, but if that is the case, what what did think they were supposed to be doing? Rescuing orphans, no doubt. In that kind of regime you really don’t know what propaganda they are being fed.
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Post by voltagain on Mar 1, 2022 0:05:39 GMT
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 1, 2022 0:15:52 GMT
There was an electronic billboard shown on cnn that was specific to Russians I think they said why are you here and go home snd there are other signs supposedly have cursing the Russians they were more handmade though.
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Post by voltagain on Mar 1, 2022 0:28:09 GMT
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Post by voltagain on Mar 1, 2022 0:29:17 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 1, 2022 0:31:21 GMT
I hope that nothing happens to the family members of those who surrendered. I do feel badly for the troops if they didn’t know what they were sent there for, but if that is the case, what what did think they were supposed to be doing? Rescuing orphans, no doubt. In that kind of regime you really don’t know what propaganda they are being fed. It seems they would have had to have been told something about a mission or had some plan as to what they were going to do when they got there, right? Especially once they started moving into Ukraine and weren't just camped out around the border?
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Post by used2scrap on Mar 1, 2022 0:37:13 GMT
Rescuing orphans, no doubt. In that kind of regime you really don’t know what propaganda they are being fed. It seems they would have had to have been told something about a mission or had some plan as to what they were going to do when they got there, right? Especially once they started moving into Ukraine and weren't just camped out around the border? I’ve seen reports in the news/online (so take with a grain of salt) that first they were told training exercises then when they moved into Ukraine it was for “peacekeeping.” But the vast majority of lower level, mandatory serving troops wouldn’t really be told much anyways. They’re following orders and the tank in front of them.
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Post by Lianna on Mar 1, 2022 0:39:59 GMT
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 1, 2022 0:51:58 GMT
I don't think Russia expected to need a supply chain to be honest. They didn't plan on resistance to this level. Fools. I honestly think it might be too late to get a supply chain set up. Ukrainian citizens are making Molotov cocktail bombs to help in defense. I've seen a TikTok that someone posted that showed a street corner when people were bringing all the Molotov cocktails they had been making. There were a ton of them, all lined up and ready to be thrown. I don't think Russia expected the people to rise to the occasion, but they absolutely have. I saw a TT where people were taking down road signs so it was harder for the Russians to find their way, and I think Google Maps took their GPS out of Ukraine! LOVE IT!
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 1, 2022 0:53:01 GMT
I just saw this today. Heartbreaking.
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Post by voltagain on Mar 1, 2022 0:55:08 GMT
Thank you for posting that. It is absolutely heart breaking.
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Post by Just T on Mar 1, 2022 0:58:07 GMT
Truly awful.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 1, 2022 1:17:15 GMT
It seems they would have had to have been told something about a mission or had some plan as to what they were going to do when they got there, right? Especially once they started moving into Ukraine and weren't just camped out around the border? I’ve seen reports in the news/online (so take with a grain of salt) that first they were told training exercises then when they moved into Ukraine it was for “peacekeeping.” But the vast majority of lower level, mandatory serving troops wouldn’t really be told much anyways. They’re following orders and the tank in front of them. I've never been in the military, but I always thought they had a strategy and everyone was aware of what the strategy was. For lack of a better comparison, kind of like a team. The coach calls the plays but everyone knows the plays. It seems that you would know the "plays" or everyone would be in the same frame of mind/knowledge of the task before getting to your location. If that isn't correct, can you shed some light on what really happens?
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Post by katlady on Mar 1, 2022 1:32:19 GMT
I’ve seen reports in the news/online (so take with a grain of salt) that first they were told training exercises then when they moved into Ukraine it was for “peacekeeping.” But the vast majority of lower level, mandatory serving troops wouldn’t really be told much anyways. They’re following orders and the tank in front of them. I've never been in the military, but I always thought they had a strategy and everyone was aware of what the strategy was. For lack of a better comparison, kind of like a team. The coach calls the plays but everyone knows the plays. It seems that you would know the "plays" or everyone would be in the same frame of mind/knowledge of the task before getting to your location. If that isn't correct, can you shed some light on what really happens? We are talking about Russia. Lot of their soldiers are conscripted. Probably most don’t even want to be in the army. Command probably just tells them they are going to Ukraine, and that is all. Russia does not tell it’s people a lot.
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Post by voltagain on Mar 1, 2022 1:38:00 GMT
I’ve seen reports in the news/online (so take with a grain of salt) that first they were told training exercises then when they moved into Ukraine it was for “peacekeeping.” But the vast majority of lower level, mandatory serving troops wouldn’t really be told much anyways. They’re following orders and the tank in front of them. I've never been in the military, but I always thought they had a strategy and everyone was aware of what the strategy was. For lack of a better comparison, kind of like a team. The coach calls the plays but everyone knows the plays. It seems that you would know the "plays" or everyone would be in the same frame of mind/knowledge of the task before getting to your location. If that isn't correct, can you shed some light on what really happens? It depends on the specific county's military. In the US that is largely true. In other countries only the top brass knows what is going on. They filter information down on a "need to know" basis. That is one of the big reasons the US targeted some middle east leaders because only someone like bin Laden knew the whole of their military strategy. Kill the leaders the military falls apart.
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