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Post by gale w on Dec 7, 2019 3:35:23 GMT
It's that time of year again. The plans we can afford all have pretty high deductibles. Anywhere from 6000 to 8000+ per person (max 2 per family). The maximum out of pocket is just a bit higher than the deductible in most cases, and in some cases it's the same. From my research the maximum out of pocket includes paying the deductible, copays and any other medical costs. One plan, for example, pays 50% after the deductible of $7700 is met, but the maximum OOP is only $450 higher than the deductible at $8150. So would you even worry about the copay being so high? Since nothing is covered until the deductible is met, and any bills after that go toward the max oop and then your max oop is met once you've paid $450 of the bills, so everything is 100% covered. Does that make sense? I was shying away from plans with a high coinsurance after the deductible is met but if the max oop is so close it doesn't really matter, right? this is just one example of plans we can choose from. Some have lower deductibles but none are below 6000. We now have 2 companies to choose from in our state/county and the company we currently have claims to not cover my gyn or my daughter's gp (even though they have in the past). She doesn't mind changing doctors but I'm kind of attached to my gyn.
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Post by snyder on Dec 7, 2019 4:00:09 GMT
You are correct. I wouldn't worry about copay as it all goes towards the oop maximum. I just went to my doctor on Wednesday and he told me he had gone back to school for public medicine. He said he is interested in how things can be fixed in some fashion. He said doctors are making money, hospitals are making money, pharma is making money, so they don't want to fix anything, meanwhile, us peons drown in medical expenses. So freaking sad.
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Post by nlwilkins on Dec 7, 2019 5:05:38 GMT
Doesn't it depend upon how high your medical bills get? If you don't meet the OOP limit, then a lower deductible would be better so you don't end up paying so much the entire year. But, if you consistently meet your OOP expenses, then the high deductible just means you meet the OOP sooner.
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Post by gale w on Dec 7, 2019 6:14:11 GMT
Doesn't it depend upon how high your medical bills get? If you don't meet the OOP limit, then a lower deductible would be better so you don't end up paying so much the entire year. But, if you consistently meet your OOP expenses, then the high deductible just means you meet the OOP sooner. We can't really afford a plan with a lower deductible. Even with the subsidy a lower deductible plan is close to $1500 per month.
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Post by KelleeM on Dec 7, 2019 12:13:37 GMT
I’m not an expert but do have a high deductible plan. I think your reasoning is correct. With my plan there’s a larger disparity between the demand OOP max. When we reach our deductible we pay 20% until we reach the OOP max.
I’m fortunate that my plan is through my employer and I receive a wellness credit and a non smoker credit that significantly reduce my premium. And I have an HSA that my employer contributes to on my behalf.
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Post by gale w on Dec 7, 2019 20:05:42 GMT
I looked further and the plan that includes my doctor and dd's doctor has deductibles and OOP that are very close, but either no copay for doctor/specialist visits (so we would pay 100% until the deductible is met) or $60/$120 copays. Our current policy is $30/$60. The plan that does not include our chosen doctors has lower deductibles but the OOP is still very close or the same, and copays of $35/$65. So my next move is to call my gyn and see if they actually do take this insurance (since others in the same practice do) and if so go with the lower copay plan. If not I'm not sure which one we'll go with.
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