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Post by uksue on Jan 10, 2020 9:10:50 GMT
I think the difference is that his father, brother, and nephew are all heir to the throne. I think because his immediate family are the heirs, he was expected to be someone. But that was pretty much the same for Anne - her mother, brother and later her nephew were all heirs to the throne. Well no- Princess Anne didn’t ‘resign’ from the firm. She has always been veru involved in royal duties . Her children have had some normalcy . Harry isn’t saying his children will opt out- HE is, THEY are.
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Post by gar on Jan 10, 2020 9:47:02 GMT
I’ve been thinking about how hard it is to explain the feelings about why this is a bit of a big deal here and why it isn’t as simple (for most British people) as saying “Sure, off you go Harry, why not?” It’s more complicated because it somehow feels a bit like a slap in the face I think
Is it maybe akin to Americans’ feelings about the constitution? As a non American I could say, it’s ridiculous to pay attention to that...those guys couldn’t have known how irrelevant it would be in the 21st century...just ignore it!” But it’s in your psyche, it’s part of who you are as a country, it’s part of your society’s structure and you can’t imagine it not being ingrained in your lives and that’s how it is with the monarchy in the UK. Not everyone loves them, I realise that, but this is still a big deal because of how the monarchy is woven into our society.
ETA this isn’t meant to sound patronising at all - I hope it doesn’t come across that way?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 9:55:27 GMT
I Think Harry is making a huge mistake . I think he feels like the 5th wheel- and the photo before Christmas of the Queen, princes Charles William and young Prince George only confirms that in his mind . What he’s done in announcing after being asked to wait was selfish and smacks of when he was a hedonistic bachelor . I don’t think she’ll still be with him in 5 years, but you only get one birth family! They should renounce their titles in my opinion . But it was a four generation photo of direct heirs to the throne. - one Queen and three future kings. He should know, more than anyone, what the significance of that was. It wasn't a "family" photo as such it was an official Monarchy/state photo
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 10:08:02 GMT
I’ve been thinking about how hard it is to explain the feelings about why this is a bit of a big deal here and why it isn’t as simple (for most British people) as saying “Sure, off you go Harry, why not?” It’s more complicated because it somehow feels a bit like a slap in the face I think Is it maybe akin to Americans’ feelings about the constitution? As a non American I could say, it’s ridiculous to pay attention to that...those guys couldn’t have known how irrelevant it would be in the 21st century...just ignore it!” But it’s in your psyche, it’s part of who you are as a country, it’s part of your society’s structure and you can’t imagine it not being ingrained in your lives and that’s how it is with the monarchy in the UK. Not everyone loves them, I realise that, but this is still a big deal because of how the monarchy is woven into our society. I agree, it is difficult to understand for non Brits. It's part and parcel of how Britain is " ruled" for want of a better word. The |Monarchy has moved along in my opinion. It's moved along in my lifetime and it's certainly moved along since the previous generation so it's not a matter of keeping up with the times as some have suggested. In fact it's been said many times how " with it" the Queen is for someone of her age.
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Post by gar on Jan 10, 2020 10:13:12 GMT
I Think Harry is making a huge mistake . I think he feels like the 5th wheel- and the photo before Christmas of the Queen, princes Charles William and young Prince George only confirms that in his mind . What he’s done in announcing after being asked to wait was selfish and smacks of when he was a hedonistic bachelor . I don’t think she’ll still be with him in 5 years, but you only get one birth family! They should renounce their titles in my opinion . But it was a four generation photo of direct heirs to the throne. - one Queen and three future kings. He should know, more than anyone, what the significance of that was. It wasn't a "family" photo as such it was an official Monarchy/state photo I think you can ‘know’ something but still be hurt or affected by it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 10:24:00 GMT
But it was a four generation photo of direct heirs to the throne. - one Queen and three future kings. He should know, more than anyone, what the significance of that was. It wasn't a "family" photo as such it was an official Monarchy/state photo I think you can ‘know’ something but still be hurt or affected by it. Yes, I agree but knowing the significance of the photo shouldn't come into play for decisions made about their future or make someone think they are the 5th wheel as Sue put it by someone in his position.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 10, 2020 13:24:17 GMT
Why? Harry is a grown man, completely capable of making decisions on his own. He played the game (though not always happily) until the horrible attacks started against his wife. I think we all saw how besotted he was/is with her. If your family just stood by and watched all this go down without supporting you or your spouse would you want to continue to play the game for them? Especially if word is true that KP is behind some of the leaks. With all due respects dewryce you're making quite a few assumptions here based on hear say/media reports. Being part of our constitutional monarchy isn't a game so no, he didn't need to play any game while he was growing up. In fact he was very well protected. It's on record, straight from Prince Harry himself that it was Prince William who spent a long time persuading him to finally get professional help to deal with his mother's death. It was Prince Charles that stepped in when Meghan's own father let her down at the last minute for her wedding. They were both fully supported by the Palace when Harry issued that letter to the press before they got married. There are a lot of other times that has been evident of support along the way too. No, I don't think he's been let down by his family. I do think that they need to seriously think who their friends are though - who is loyal and who is there riding on their backs because of who they are. The ones speaking to the press about things like " the snub to the RF by spending Christmas away from Sandringham" There was nothing unusual for them in choosing to do so. Prince William does it every other year, spending alternative Christmases with the Middletons. Their " friend's" comment about the photo that was released at of four generations of succession to the throne. What was wrong with that I have photos of four generation, I didn't feel the need to include my DD's cousin in my four generation photo. I think we are all making assumptions/forming opinions based on hear say and media reports. I mean, that’s all we can do, right? With things being printed and said from all sides and so many different outlets we take it in and decide what makes the most sense to us and who we believe. I should clarify that by growing up I mean from the time he was a (mid to late) teen. I remember a lot of times photos and stories of Harry (and Chelsea) partying too hard were widely circulated, and the photos and stories of William (and eventually Kate) would often pop up sporadically and disappear quickly. Either way, it appears to me that there has obviously been a rift in the family and with the brothers. Perhaps he does feel supported in this matter and the rift is there for other reasons.
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Post by gar on Jan 10, 2020 13:50:35 GMT
With all due respects dewryce you're making quite a few assumptions here based on hear say/media reports. Being part of our constitutional monarchy isn't a game so no, he didn't need to play any game while he was growing up. In fact he was very well protected. It's on record, straight from Prince Harry himself that it was Prince William who spent a long time persuading him to finally get professional help to deal with his mother's death. It was Prince Charles that stepped in when Meghan's own father let her down at the last minute for her wedding. They were both fully supported by the Palace when Harry issued that letter to the press before they got married. There are a lot of other times that has been evident of support along the way too. No, I don't think he's been let down by his family. I do think that they need to seriously think who their friends are though - who is loyal and who is there riding on their backs because of who they are. The ones speaking to the press about things like " the snub to the RF by spending Christmas away from Sandringham" There was nothing unusual for them in choosing to do so. Prince William does it every other year, spending alternative Christmases with the Middletons. Their " friend's" comment about the photo that was released at of four generations of succession to the throne. What was wrong with that I have photos of four generation, I didn't feel the need to include my DD's cousin in my four generation photo. I think we are all making assumptions/forming opinions based on hear say and media reports. I mean, that’s all we can do, right? With things being printed and said from all sides and so many different outlets we take it in and decide what makes the most sense to us and who we believe. I should clarify that by growing up I mean from the time he was a (mid to late) teen. I remember a lot of times photos and stories of Harry (and Chelsea) partying too hard were widely circulated, and the photos and stories of William (and eventually Kate) would often pop up sporadically and disappear quickly. Either way, it appears to me that there has obviously been a rift in the family and with the brothers. Perhaps he does feel supported in this matter and the rift is there for other reasons. I think there’s an element of chicken/egg here. It seems that they started to not ‘play the game’ so to speak, soon after the wedding... didn’t want to share pictures of the baby very much etc etc. It can be said that they’re entitled to do that but that isn’t what was the norm or expected and it was inevitable that if they started to pull back then the public here would start saying well, why now? We (British public) like to have something in return for the Sovereign Grant they receive and people were upset when they felt we weren’t getting something back. So a question might be did they pull back because of unfavourable press about Meghan or did Meghan/they start getting negative press because they weren’t allowing us ‘in’ at all? William and Catherine have reached a great arrangement with the press where they feed them scraps - often Catherine’s own shots of the family - and then they’re pretty much left alone. I wonder if they couldn’t have done something like that too had things gone differently.
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Post by *KAS* on Jan 10, 2020 14:45:57 GMT
I had some questions / comments after reading all of the details in the link to People, but I read all of the comments here first, in case it was already addressed. I have to say, there's a whole lot of speculation and judgment here, considering not one person here seems to actually 'know' more than they have read in various media sites. It's a little wild, no matter which side your own. I find it fascinating that as a part of the Royal Rota they are required to give exclusive access and photos - can't even release them themselves in some cases - to tabloids that were then able to sell their photos for profit. Some of the very tabloids that helped contribute to the death of his mother and now attack his wife. I can't imagine living that life. I appreciate the locals that understand the Monarchy better than the rest of us and are trying to help educate us! It's very interesting. Confusing, but interesting. That isn't actually how the ROTA works. I've explained how the ROTA works in an earlier post. Where did you read the part I bolded about the tabloids selling photos for profit? My mistake. I mis-read it as re-selling photos. It said the tabloids profit by publishing the photos on their front page, it did not say they re-sell them. It was in the FAQ from them that People published about the decision (I bolded the part I misunderstood): Will they continue to have a social media platform? Yes, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will continue to have a social media platform. They look forward to continuing their use of social media and believe that their updated media approach will enable them to share more, with you, directly. Historically, the understanding with the Royal Rota expects that if Their Royal Highnesses were to release a photo that has never been seen, they would be expected to give the image to The Rota (of which four of the seven are UK tabloids) simultaneously or in advance of their own release. This formula enables these select publications to profit by publishing these images on their websites/front pages. Any breach in this understanding creates long term repercussions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 14:47:43 GMT
With all due respects dewryce you're making quite a few assumptions here based on hear say/media reports. Being part of our constitutional monarchy isn't a game so no, he didn't need to play any game while he was growing up. In fact he was very well protected. It's on record, straight from Prince Harry himself that it was Prince William who spent a long time persuading him to finally get professional help to deal with his mother's death. It was Prince Charles that stepped in when Meghan's own father let her down at the last minute for her wedding. They were both fully supported by the Palace when Harry issued that letter to the press before they got married. There are a lot of other times that has been evident of support along the way too. No, I don't think he's been let down by his family. I do think that they need to seriously think who their friends are though - who is loyal and who is there riding on their backs because of who they are. The ones speaking to the press about things like " the snub to the RF by spending Christmas away from Sandringham" There was nothing unusual for them in choosing to do so. Prince William does it every other year, spending alternative Christmases with the Middletons. Their " friend's" comment about the photo that was released at of four generations of succession to the throne. What was wrong with that I have photos of four generation, I didn't feel the need to include my DD's cousin in my four generation photo. I think we are all making assumptions/forming opinions based on hear say and media reports. I mean, that’s all we can do, right? With things being printed and said from all sides and so many different outlets we take it in and decide what makes the most sense to us and who we believe. I should clarify that by growing up I mean from the time he was a (mid to late) teen. I remember a lot of times photos and stories of Harry (and Chelsea) partying too hard were widely circulated, and the photos and stories of William (and eventually Kate) would often pop up sporadically and disappear quickly. Either way, it appears to me that there has obviously been a rift in the family and with the brothers. Perhaps he does feel supported in this matter and the rift is there for other reasons. Oh Kate has had her fair share of bad press too and she was far younger that Meghan was to cope with it and certainly not so used to the intrusion that Meghan, as an actress and a campaigner for women had been exposed to. Prince Harry was 20 when he started dating Chelsey Davy, so not a teenager. He entered Sandhurst ( the military Academy) after his gap year where he spent the time partly in Australia working on a cattle farm and at the orphanage in Lesotho. He was far older than a teenager when he had his " wild time". The main reason that there were very few photos of William between the ages of 18 and 21 was, there was an arrangement between the Palace and the British press that he was left alone to continue his studies at University. In all fairness to the press they kept their side of the bargain and most of the photos of him at that time were taken by the foreign press or members of the public or "friends" and many only came to light in the British Press years later. The British press also agreed to keep quiet about his posting to Afghanistan until the Australian media exposed him. He had to come home for both his own security and as he said once, to protect other military personnel that was attached to his unit. I'm sure if he had approached things differently he would have come to some arrangement with them in the same way that William & Kate have done. I'm not condoning the press that Meghan has had but it hasn't all been British either, there's plenty of negative press out there about her that is not British. especially on line. I think they are both naive in thinking that they can control the media, wherever they choose to live.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 15:04:37 GMT
That isn't actually how the ROTA works. I've explained how the ROTA works in an earlier post. Where did you read the part I bolded about the tabloids selling photos for profit? My mistake. I mis-read it as re-selling photos. It said the tabloids profit by publishing the photos on their front page, it did not say they re-sell them. It was in the FAQ from them that People published about the decision (I bolded the part I misunderstood): Will they continue to have a social media platform? Yes, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will continue to have a social media platform. They look forward to continuing their use of social media and believe that their updated media approach will enable them to share more, with you, directly. Historically, the understanding with the Royal Rota expects that if Their Royal Highnesses were to release a photo that has never been seen, they would be expected to give the image to The Rota (of which four of the seven are UK tabloids) simultaneously or in advance of their own release. This formula enables these select publications to profit by publishing these images on their websites/front pages. Any breach in this understanding creates long term repercussions. Of course the publications are going to profit from them. Every magazine, newspaper, many blogs etc are profit making corporations. The media that are members of the pool don't sell on the photos that are released they share them with others, free of charge. The reason for the ROTA is purely that each event isn't going to be faced with the circus you had outside the hospital when William and Kate's children were born.You can't have that sort of media frenzy each time one of the Royal Family attends places like a hospice or a school for instance. If an official photo is released ( on birthdays etc) now the the Palace Press office releases it to members of the pool which saves their time in sending it to, probably a 100+ others maybe. If in the future they are going to release official photos of themselves they won't be able to control who shares them once they are out there on the internet, no more than they can now.They're both naive if they think they can. Someone will still profit from them somewhere and it will not always be them.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jan 10, 2020 15:06:18 GMT
Does anyone else suspect that KP released this announcement ahead of schedule to provide a total distraction from the Prince Andrew mess, as well as thrown Meghan & Harry under the bus? Or have I lived with DH long enough that I too have become a very suspicious person? He sure has conveniently disappeared from the headlines.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jan 10, 2020 15:16:21 GMT
I’ve been thinking about how hard it is to explain the feelings about why this is a bit of a big deal here and why it isn’t as simple (for most British people) as saying “Sure, off you go Harry, why not?” It’s more complicated because it somehow feels a bit like a slap in the face I think Is it maybe akin to Americans’ feelings about the constitution? As a non American I could say, it’s ridiculous to pay attention to that...those guys couldn’t have known how irrelevant it would be in the 21st century...just ignore it!” But it’s in your psyche, it’s part of who you are as a country, it’s part of your society’s structure and you can’t imagine it not being ingrained in your lives and that’s how it is with the monarchy in the UK. Not everyone loves them, I realise that, but this is still a big deal because of how the monarchy is woven into our society. I agree, it is difficult to understand for non Brits. It's part and parcel of how Britain is " ruled" for want of a better word. The |Monarchy has moved along in my opinion. It's moved along in my lifetime and it's certainly moved along since the previous generation so it's not a matter of keeping up with the times as some have suggested. In fact it's been said many times how " with it" the Queen is for someone of her age. I am a non-Brit (Canadian): they are no more your royals as they are ours - we are 'ruled' exactly the same way you are. He's not just fucking off to parts unknown - if rumours are to be believed he is staying within the Commonwealth realms.
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Post by wordfish on Jan 10, 2020 15:22:13 GMT
Does anyone else suspect that KP released this announcement ahead of schedule to provide a total distraction from the Prince Andrew mess, as well as thrown Meghan & Harry under the bus? Or have I lived with DH long enough that I too have become a very suspicious person? He sure has conveniently disappeared from the headlines. KP? Kensington Palace? That’s William and Kate. Or do you mean something else?
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jan 10, 2020 15:28:50 GMT
Does anyone else suspect that KP released this announcement ahead of schedule to provide a total distraction from the Prince Andrew mess, as well as thrown Meghan & Harry under the bus? Or have I lived with DH long enough that I too have become a very suspicious person? He sure has conveniently disappeared from the headlines. KP? Kensington Palace? That’s William and Kate. Or do you mean something else? I meant the whole entity, not just KP. Never fails that peaing before coffee leads to mistakes.
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Post by gillyp on Jan 10, 2020 15:30:03 GMT
Does anyone else suspect that KP released this announcement ahead of schedule to provide a total distraction from the Prince Andrew mess, as well as thrown Meghan & Harry under the bus? Or have I lived with DH long enough that I too have become a very suspicious person? He sure has conveniently disappeared from the headlines. Absolutely not. The ramifications of H&M stepping down are far longer reaching and more difficult for the Royal Family. Andrew is an individual who has been dealt with by The Queen notwithstanding any further investigations by the law. H&M’s departure is totally different, affecting numerous aspects of the Monarchy. The Palace does not believe in doing it’s dirty washing in public, for want of a better phrase and would have preferred all this to have been kept private until they were ready to release details of how this will work.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 15:33:06 GMT
Does anyone else suspect that KP released this announcement ahead of schedule to provide a total distraction from the Prince Andrew mess, as well as thrown Meghan & Harry under the bus? Or have I lived with DH long enough that I too have become a very suspicious person? He sure has conveniently disappeared from the headlines. No I don't think so. They were genuinely floored by all accounts that have come from very reliable Royal correspondernts here who are close to the Palace press office. One of our newscaster ( the one that made the documentary while they were in South Africa) who is a friend of both William and Harry admitted that it was a total surprise even to him. I've just read this latest story in the Press Gazette There's more in link I find this rather telling of what journalist think of it all.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 10, 2020 15:34:43 GMT
I’m not a royals watcher (pardon my ignorance), but I’ve read this entire thread. After reading here that Meghan has headed back to Canada, what she and Harry have done feels like a big eff you to his family. And she got to figuratively poop and run. I understand that apparently their dissatisfaction was likely cumulative, I can’t help but wonder, why now, and in this manner? Did something particularly awful happen recently, or were they just impatient to have it over with, or....? I can’t imagine that they could have fooled themselves into thinking that this would just miraculously go smoothly. So many questions. Scratches head. 👆🏻This. I wonder as well. I also thought this was a very strange move. I mean, why come back at all - talk about a waste of resources! I'm more annoyed about that than the private jet they used to go to Italy....
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Post by pinklady on Jan 10, 2020 15:39:31 GMT
I’ve been thinking about how hard it is to explain the feelings about why this is a bit of a big deal here and why it isn’t as simple (for most British people) as saying “Sure, off you go Harry, why not?” It’s more complicated because it somehow feels a bit like a slap in the face I think As an American I completely agree. I’m having hard time wrapping my head around why this is such a big deal. To me they are nothing more that Hollywood celebrities because I have no idea how the Royal thing works. I know that is like comparing apples and oranges. Whatever happens I hope they find peace and happiness without so much scrutiny.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 15:41:16 GMT
I agree, it is difficult to understand for non Brits. It's part and parcel of how Britain is " ruled" for want of a better word. The |Monarchy has moved along in my opinion. It's moved along in my lifetime and it's certainly moved along since the previous generation so it's not a matter of keeping up with the times as some have suggested. In fact it's been said many times how " with it" the Queen is for someone of her age. I am a non-Brit (Canadian): they are no more your royals as they are ours - we are 'ruled' exactly the same way you are. He's not just fucking off to parts unknown - if rumours are to be believed he is staying within the Commonwealth realms. Sorry, I do apologize. I class you, Australia and NZ as one of us when it comes to explaining the Monarchy.....really sorry .
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Post by gillyp on Jan 10, 2020 15:43:40 GMT
Dan Wootton should be ashamed of himself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 15:51:26 GMT
Dan Wootton should be ashamed of himself. Expected from the Sun though and him. Apparently he used to work for the News of the World before he moved over to the Sun......both gutter press!
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 10, 2020 15:51:43 GMT
Her mother didn't rule until her death or at all for that matter. She may be a *healthy 94* but realistically how many other 94 year olds do you know that keep the type of schedule and responsibility that she does. Literally no one. She is far past normal life expectancy. That was my point. She probably has many years left. You'd think Harry leaving would be a more welcome distraction than her pedophile son. She probably doesn't believe he's done anything wrong.
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Post by gar on Jan 10, 2020 15:58:41 GMT
Her mother didn't rule until her death or at all for that matter. She may be a *healthy 94* but realistically how many other 94 year olds do you know that keep the type of schedule and responsibility that she does. Literally no one. She is far past normal life expectancy. That was my point. She probably has many years left. You'd think Harry leaving would be a more welcome distraction than her pedophile son. She probably doesn't believe he's done anything wrong. 🤨🤔🙄
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 10, 2020 16:02:16 GMT
If in the future they are going to release official photos of themselves they won't be able to control who shares them once they are out there on the internet, no more than they can now. They're both naive if they think they can. Someone will still profit from them somewhere and it will not always be them. She's a 38 year old actress who has experience in this kind of thing. Also a college degree from Northwestern University School of Communication. I wouldn't classify them as naive.
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Post by gale w on Jan 10, 2020 16:33:05 GMT
I haven't read all the replies here, but I'm in a group on fb that is mostly British women (it's a spin-off of a farm wives group). This was mentioned today and I was frankly shocked reading post after post with intense hate for Meghan, calling her an American whore, saying she had this planned all along, she's another Simpson, hate for Americans in general, etc etc. I know it's just a small representation but it was pretty ugly. 😔
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 16:33:42 GMT
If in the future they are going to release official photos of themselves they won't be able to control who shares them once they are out there on the internet, no more than they can now. They're both naive if they think they can. Someone will still profit from them somewhere and it will not always be them. She's a 38 year old actress who has experience in this kind of thing. Also a college degree from Northwestern University School of Communication. I wouldn't classify them as naive. Well they are if they think they can manipulate the media in the way they think they can. That's being naive is anyone's book.
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Post by gar on Jan 10, 2020 16:34:48 GMT
I haven't read all the replies here, but I'm in a group on fb that is mostly British women (it's a spin-off of a farm wives group). This was mentioned today and I was frankly shocked reading post after post with intense hate for Meghan, calling her an American whore, saying she had this planned all along, she's another Simpson, hate for Americans in general, etc etc. I know it's just a small representation but it was pretty ugly. 😔 I am ashamed every time I read stuff like this but it is thankfully a minority.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 16:46:47 GMT
I haven't read all the replies here, but I'm in a group on fb that is mostly British women (it's a spin-off of a farm wives group). This was mentioned today and I was frankly shocked reading post after post with intense hate for Meghan, calling her an American whore, saying she had this planned all along, she's another Simpson, hate for Americans in general, etc etc. I know it's just a small representation but it was pretty ugly. 😔 I am ashamed every time I read stuff like this but it is thankfully a minority. That is a stupid thing to say, it isn't at all comparable. There's no constitutional crises because Prince Harry and Meghan have decided to live somewhere else. We don;t like it but it will be sorted and as quick as possible according to a statement from Buckingham Palace. Bet they don't even know what happened with the Duke of Windsor and Wallace Simpson unless they're very very old or a history buff. It was over 80 years ago.
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Post by mrgiedrnkr on Jan 10, 2020 17:05:02 GMT
I am ashamed every time I read stuff like this but it is thankfully a minority. That is a stupid thing to say, it isn't at all comparable. There's no constitutional crises because Prince Harry and Meghan have decided to live somewhere else. We don;t like it but it will be sorted and as quick as possible according to a statement from Buckingham Palace. Bet they don't even know what happened with the Duke of Windsor and Wallace Simpson unless they're very very old or a history buff. It was over 80 years ago. But...but...they saw it on The Crown so they are experts, right?
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