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Post by cbscrapper on Dec 17, 2020 3:50:45 GMT
I found it easy to pass on the kit, but I really needed the Seek Joy stamps! I was so close to getting the Seek Joy stamp, but I need to start using the great stamps I already have before buying more. Maybe if it goes on sale...a girl can hope. 😉 |
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Post by peachiceteas on Dec 28, 2020 15:17:52 GMT
I just received the latest newsletter and saw this:
As much as I am a little sad about this news, FYC lost me as a customer a few months ago. I would of had to desperately want something from FYC to consider purchasing again.
This makes me a sweat a little though and hope that other small businesses won't follow suit. I would be absolutely gutted if IACB stopped taking international digital orders. I also really hope that Geralyn can start getting physical product out there with more brands, as FYC was the only place I could consistently purchase her designs from in physical format - other than the odd stamp set with Studio Calico.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 28, 2020 15:30:59 GMT
I don't understand why the situation with the EU and the UK would deprive non-EU and UK international customers? Seems unfair and harsh. There are scrapbookers elsewhere outside the US + Canada and EU + UK... What about Australia? Central and South America? Asia? Africa?
ETA: And a little warning ahead would've been nice for EU customers. The EU VAT for e-Commerce doesn't kick in until July (sales, not shipping or package arrival date). Meh, crappy handling and surprise just before the New Year.
ETA2: The MOSS system allows for people like Geralyn to register in one EU country only for digital sales. I hope she bothers registering and we can keep buying digitals from IACB and KP. Not feeling reassured right now. For other vendors, including FYC, the one-EU-country registration still works even for physical goods:
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Post by peachiceteas on Dec 28, 2020 16:30:04 GMT
There are scrapbookers elsewhere outside the US + Canada and EU + UK... What about Australia? Central and South America? Asia? Africa? Totally fair point and one I completely missed in my moment of; oh here we go, Brexit making life difficult again. ETA: And a little warning ahead would've been nice for EU customers. The EU VAT for e-Commerce doesn't kick in until July (sales, not shipping or package arrival date). Meh, crappy handling and surprise just before the New Year. ETA2: The MOSS system allows for people like Geralyn to register in one EU country only for digital sales. I hope she bothers registering and we can keep buying digitals from IACB and KP. Not feeling reassured right now. For other vendors, including FYC, the one-EU-country registration still works even for physical goods: I was hoping you would come along and shed some light on the details that I know nothing about. I am hope this is classic FYC poor customer service, and everyone else will register in time for July. Sounds like FYC just cannot be bothered. |
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Post by hop2 on Dec 28, 2020 16:41:16 GMT
I don't understand why the situation with the EU and the UK would deprive non-EU and UK international customers? Seems unfair and harsh. There are scrapbookers elsewhere outside the US + Canada and EU + UK... What about Australia? Central and South America? Asia? Africa? ETA: And a little warning ahead would've been nice for EU customers. The EU VAT for e-Commerce doesn't kick in until July (sales, not shipping or package arrival date). Meh, crappy handling and surprise just before the New Year. ETA2: The MOSS system allows for people like Geralyn to register in one EU country only for digital sales. I hope she bothers registering and we can keep buying digitals from IACB and KP. Not feeling reassured right now. For other vendors, including FYC, the one-EU-country registration still works even for physical goods: My DD is struggling with this now for her online shop. Are there any good links to find info? she's having trouble figuring out out |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 28, 2020 16:51:26 GMT
ETA: And a little warning ahead would've been nice for EU customers. The EU VAT for e-Commerce doesn't kick in until July (sales, not shipping or package arrival date). Meh, crappy handling and surprise just before the New Year. ETA2: The MOSS system allows for people like Geralyn to register in one EU country only for digital sales. I hope she bothers registering and we can keep buying digitals from IACB and KP. Not feeling reassured right now. For other vendors, including FYC, the one-EU-country registration still works even for physical goods: My DD is struggling with this now for her online shop. Are there any good links to find info? she's having trouble figuring out out The European Union has got you covered, whether you're established in the EU or not ("non-Union scheme"). Read through using the menu on the left. Plenty of questions answered and all subjects analysed (registration, keeping records, rule comparison by country, etc.). ETA: Chargebee has a simplified guide as well (free, no need to purchase their services). While it's for software as a service, it does help get a better grasp of the EU VAT system as a whole while not exactly applicable for non-SaaS businesses. ETA2: If your DD's online shop is hosted on a marketplace, the marketplace will be collecting VAT from July 1st on. Larger marketplaces will de facto become the "deemed supplier" in lieu of all the smaller vendors that are part of it. |
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Post by hop2 on Dec 28, 2020 16:54:48 GMT
My DD is struggling with this now for her online shop. Are there any good links to find info? she's having trouble figuring out out The European Union has got you covered, whether you're established in the EU or not ("non-Union scheme"). Read through using the menu on the left. Plenty of questions answered and all subjects analysed (registration, keeping records, rule comparison by country, etc.). ETA: Chargebee has a simplified guide as well (free, no need to purchase their services). While it's for software as a service, it does help get a better grasp of the EU VAT system as a whole while not exactly applicable for non-SaaS businesses. Thank you so much! |
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Post by peachiceteas on Dec 28, 2020 18:33:11 GMT
sleepingbooty Citrus Twist just sent an email declaring they are no longer shipping to the UK. Not sure how this effects EU customers as they didn't mention it in their email. As if this year couldn't get any worse. At this rate, I won't be able to shop anywhere.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Dec 28, 2020 20:11:03 GMT
I read that and was completely shocked she decided to stop sending to EU & UK. She has always seemed very open to suggestion, maybe if someone wants to email her with ways to help her understand what can be done, then she wouldn't lose so many customers. It almost seems like she didn't research it very well in my opinion.
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Post by happyscrappydo on Dec 29, 2020 0:47:44 GMT
Cocoa Daisy is cancelling all the UK subscriptions that will be shipped after January. Their software is not ready for the VAT. They decided to put some kits in their Etsy shop but not sure if the shipping can be the same as it’s more expensive even for USA than directly from their website. CD is big enough to try and work out the software in the next few months. Sounds like a lot of small businesses cannot comprehend the VAT changes:(
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Post by peachiceteas on Dec 29, 2020 9:20:39 GMT
Cocoa Daisy is cancelling all the UK subscriptions that will be shipped after January. Their software is not ready for the VAT. They decided to put some kits in their Etsy shop but not sure if the shipping can be the same as it’s more expensive even for USA than directly from their website. CD is big enough to try and work out the software in the next few months. Sounds like a lot of small businesses cannot comprehend the VAT changes:( Thank you for sharing! Sounds like we're going to need a specific thread to keep up with where we can and can't purchase. |
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Post by glenys on Dec 29, 2020 10:07:10 GMT
Cocoa Daisy is cancelling all the UK subscriptions that will be shipped after January. Their software is not ready for the VAT. They decided to put some kits in their Etsy shop but not sure if the shipping can be the same as it’s more expensive even for USA than directly from their website. CD is big enough to try and work out the software in the next few months. Sounds like a lot of small businesses cannot comprehend the VAT changes:( Thank you for sharing! Sounds like we're going to need a specific thread to keep up with where we can and can't purchase. IACB cancelling UK orders too...although still looking for a solution through Big Cartel. Maybe you can use a VPN for digital orders? I also wanted to share an update on In a Creative Bubble's digital shop. After December 31st, 2020, I will no longer take digital item orders from UK addresses due to the Brexit tax VAT sytem which goes into effect on January 1st, 2021. I am afraid I cannot comply to these changes with the limited resources I have. This was not a decision made lightly and I apologize to all UK customers for the short notice. I'm still trying to get more information from my website provider (Big Cartel) if they will act as the marketplace facilitator in this circumstance as they've done so with US state taxes, but I haven't heard back yet. Thus, to be on the safe side, I will not be taking UK orders in the new year. If there are any changes to this, I will keep you updated. Thank you for understanding. |
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Post by peachiceteas on Dec 29, 2020 10:13:14 GMT
Thank you for sharing! Sounds like we're going to need a specific thread to keep up with where we can and can't purchase. IACB cancelling UK orders too...although still looking for a solution through Big Cartel. Maybe you can use a VPN for digital orders? I also wanted to share an update on In a Creative Bubble's digital shop. After December 31st, 2020, I will no longer take digital item orders from UK addresses due to the Brexit tax VAT sytem which goes into effect on January 1st, 2021. I am afraid I cannot comply to these changes with the limited resources I have. This was not a decision made lightly and I apologize to all UK customers for the short notice. I'm still trying to get more information from my website provider (Big Cartel) if they will act as the marketplace facilitator in this circumstance as they've done so with US state taxes, but I haven't heard back yet. Thus, to be on the safe side, I will not be taking UK orders in the new year. If there are any changes to this, I will keep you updated. Thank you for understanding. This is honestly upsetting. So many U.K. crafters are going to be in a situation where they cannot continue the craft as they cannot get the supplies they are used to using. I’ve just done a final order with Citrus Twist after deliberating whether I should, and I guess I’ll need to do the same for IACB. All I can hope is that things change in the future and these retailers will open back up to U.K. customers in the future, when their platforms make it easy for them to do so. Thank you for sharing this information glenys |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 29, 2020 11:23:36 GMT
IACB cancelling UK orders too...although still looking for a solution through Big Cartel. Maybe you can use a VPN for digital orders? The VPN doesn't change a thing: it's about the customer's home address, alas. Either UK (and likely EU come July) customers lie for digital goods and sign up with a fresh account using a fake US address (there's your pro tip, peachiceteas) or vendors + marketplaces line up with the legislation and register. I don't see how Big Cartel won't eventually consider themselves a marketplace and thus the deemed supplier that has to register for the EU anyway but I could be wrong... |
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 29, 2020 11:27:10 GMT
I read that and was completely shocked she decided to stop sending to EU & UK. She has always seemed very open to suggestion, maybe if someone wants to email her with ways to help her understand what can be done, then she wouldn't lose so many customers. Her CS has been a little snotty and not very open-minded recently as evidenced in this thread. I wouldn't count on it. Also, it's kind of her job to figure something this basic out. It would also be a great service to her loyal EU and UK customers who will no longer be slapped with the ridiculous administrative fee to collect sales tax on goods imported from her shop. I believe several UK Peas remained subscribed despite the very regular over the top customs charge for their FYC parcels. It would be nice to return the favour by going through what is essentially the same hassle as US sales tax plus registering in two countries (UK + one EU one). It's really not up to customers to hold her hand and beg her to figure this out. |
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Post by peachiceteas on Dec 29, 2020 11:28:58 GMT
IACB cancelling UK orders too...although still looking for a solution through Big Cartel. Maybe you can use a VPN for digital orders? The VPN doesn't change a thing: it's about the customer's home address, alas. Either UK (and likely EU come July) customers lie for digital goods and sign up with a fresh account using a fake US address (there's your pro tip, peachiceteas ) or vendors + marketplaces line up with the legislation and register. I don't see how Big Cartel won't eventually consider themselves a marketplace and thus the deemed supplier that has to register for the EU anyway but I could be wrong... I have considered this. I do have a US address (family vacation home) but my debit and credit cards all have UK addresses. I wondered if using my genuine US address but a UK billing address would cause issues for IACB. No idea. But definitely something I have considered. I hope that Big Cartel sort it out soon - there will be a lot of sellers who use that platform that will want to be able to easily ship to Europe. |
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Post by pancakes on Dec 29, 2020 16:09:38 GMT
The VPN doesn't change a thing: it's about the customer's home address, alas. Either UK (and likely EU come July) customers lie for digital goods and sign up with a fresh account using a fake US address (there's your pro tip, peachiceteas ) or vendors + marketplaces line up with the legislation and register. I don't see how Big Cartel won't eventually consider themselves a marketplace and thus the deemed supplier that has to register for the EU anyway but I could be wrong... I have considered this. I do have a US address (family vacation home) but my debit and credit cards all have UK addresses. I wondered if using my genuine US address but a UK billing address would cause issues for IACB. No idea. But definitely something I have considered. I hope that Big Cartel sort it out soon - there will be a lot of sellers who use that platform that will want to be able to easily ship to Europe. I don't know the ins and outs of the VAT changes, but from my experience, it's applicable to where the item is shipped regardless of the billing address. |
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Post by peachiceteas on Dec 29, 2020 16:43:52 GMT
I have considered this. I do have a US address (family vacation home) but my debit and credit cards all have UK addresses. I wondered if using my genuine US address but a UK billing address would cause issues for IACB. No idea. But definitely something I have considered. I hope that Big Cartel sort it out soon - there will be a lot of sellers who use that platform that will want to be able to easily ship to Europe. I don't know the ins and outs of the VAT changes, but from my experience, it's applicable to where the item is shipped regardless of the billing address. Okay - this gives me hope! Thank you! |
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Post by jediannie on Dec 29, 2020 18:44:27 GMT
Her CS has been a little snotty and not very open-minded recently as evidenced in this thread. I wouldn't count on it. Also, it's kind of her job to figure something this basic out. It would also be a great service to her loyal EU and UK customers who will no longer be slapped with the ridiculous administrative fee to collect sales tax on goods imported from her shop. I believe several UK Peas remained subscribed despite the very regular over the top customs charge for their FYC parcels. It would be nice to return the favour by going through what is essentially the same hassle as US sales tax plus registering in two countries (UK + one EU one). It's really not up to customers to hold her hand and beg her to figure this out. That's too bad the CS has been crappy. I've never had a problem and when I sent a couple of suggestions they were taken well. I think FYC uses Shop Pay, they should be able to figure this out for all the small businesses that use their platform. ETA: I understand it's not the customer's job to help her out, and if they've been crappy to you in the past, I wouldn't want to give them a suggestion either. |
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Post by anrobe on Dec 30, 2020 0:19:12 GMT
I'm also sorry to hear that CS has been crappy. She's always been so great to work with when I had issues. In fact, I've had some of the best CS from her.
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Post by pancakes on Dec 30, 2020 2:03:14 GMT
I'm also sorry to hear that CS has been crappy. She's always been so great to work with when I had issues. In fact, I've had some of the best CS from her. I feel that way about Elise as well. Have only good things to say about my experiences. It’s hard to hear that others have had such bad ones. |
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Post by nicolep on Jan 8, 2021 16:56:30 GMT
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Post by jediannie on Jan 8, 2021 17:06:55 GMT
Ooh, I really like this kit!
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Post by honeypea on Jan 8, 2021 17:44:37 GMT
Ooh, I really like this kit! I really dig the home stuff. Looks like the Page Turner stuff, which is responsible for my FYC love. I think I saw the home stamp a few days ago somewhere, but I can’t recall who posted it. These crazy days are a blur and feel like slowmo, at the same time. Can’t keep anything straight anymore. |
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Post by ecvnj58 on Jan 8, 2021 20:25:53 GMT
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Post by scrappydo on Jan 10, 2021 22:21:44 GMT
There are scrapbookers elsewhere outside the US + Canada and EU + UK... What about Australia? Central and South America? Asia? Africa? Totally fair point and one I completely missed in my moment of; oh here we go, Brexit making life difficult again. ETA: And a little warning ahead would've been nice for EU customers. The EU VAT for e-Commerce doesn't kick in until July (sales, not shipping or package arrival date). Meh, crappy handling and surprise just before the New Year. ETA2: The MOSS system allows for people like Geralyn to register in one EU country only for digital sales. I hope she bothers registering and we can keep buying digitals from IACB and KP. Not feeling reassured right now. For other vendors, including FYC, the one-EU-country registration still works even for physical goods: I was hoping you would come along and shed some light on the details that I know nothing about. I am hope this is classic FYC poor customer service, and everyone else will register in time for July. Sounds like FYC just cannot be bothered. I wrote to her asking to reconsider her non UK halt, especially to Aus / NZ customers which don't have the tax implications for her. Nope. It's shipping for us. And she needed to do what was best for her company. 🤷🏼♀️ That made me sad... if I'm prepared to pay for ridiculous shipping, why stop me?? |
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Post by nicolep on Jan 15, 2021 15:14:58 GMT
New kit is live!
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Post by msupea on Jan 15, 2021 17:09:04 GMT
The kit is cute but I don't know if I can justify the cost. I don't *need* another kit. I'm actually debating buying the digital cards
Maybe the ephemera kit.
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Post by honeypea on Jan 15, 2021 18:59:47 GMT
I set an alarm for the release. I was in the middle of my morning yoga, but didn’t want to miss this one. The kit is perfectly me. 🥰
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Post by cbscrapper on Jan 15, 2021 23:14:33 GMT
I debated the kit for too long with it in my cart, and it sold out. Probably just as well since I am on a self-imposed spending chill! I look at it again, and while it’s all very usable, I don’t HAVE to have it. Progress for me! Plus, I have a lot of IACB printables that are similar.
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