Jili
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Post by Jili on Feb 1, 2020 15:03:54 GMT
It’s definitely possible to go a long time without calling someone anything, really. I’ve been with my dh/married over 30 years and neither of us calls each others’ parents anything. We do use grandparent names occasionally. Dh had a stepfather whom he called by his first name, and I did too.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 1, 2020 15:05:34 GMT
My dad managed to go around 50 years of not calling my grandparents anything! When he first starting dating my mum, they would have stood on ceremony and insisted on Mr and Mrs but after they married I think they wanted him to call them Mum and Dad which he absolutely would not do (I wouldn’t have been comfortable with that either - I have my own parents and they are the only ones I’ll ever call mum and dad). It’s amazing how well you can avoid saying someone’s name if you want to. He would occasionally say: ‘Ask your mother if she’d like more tea’ or whatever, but mostly he could get away with just speaking directly to them. I was in my teens before I noticed that he never used their names. I know lots of folk who always refer to their in-laws by their grandparent names, even when the kids aren’t around or are grown up. It doesn’t really sound weird to me as it’s so commonly done and comes across as affectionate. I always called my parents-in-law by their first names from the time we first started dating. I think I maybe called my MIL and FIL “Mom” or “Dad” less than a handful of times in the decades that DH and I have been together. FIL passed away over 20 years ago, so he mostly hasn’t been in the picture, MIL and my mom passed eight years ago so now it’s not an issue at all. Mostly I just avoided it entirely by speaking to them directly and not using any name, and I would do the same as mentioned above when referring to MIL by saying, “DH, your mom is on the phone” or whatever. It really is pretty amazing how long you can go without ever using a person’s name. And LOL the grandparent name thing, I didn’t have my kid until the last year of my mom’s life (she would have been 84). But because of my much older siblings, she had a passel of grandkids before mine so she had been a grandma for decades prior to my kid coming along. Most of us would call her Granny all the time, as in, Granny Fanny Nesselrode who was a gray curly haired granny puppet from Sesame Street! She would say she hated it, but we all knew better and kept calling her that anyway. I think after 12 years that ship has sailed. If the person didn’t say something sooner, I’d come up with something really aggravating and start calling them that instead and see how fast they change their tune, but I can be amazingly passive aggressive like that when I want to be. And I’d be calling them Mr/Ms Asshat in private.
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Post by milocat on Feb 1, 2020 15:17:12 GMT
So odd to bring this up now and then she should be making suggestions. If she doesn't want to be called ma'am and sir, or Mrs Lastname, or Mrs Firstname, what else is there besides a first name? "Hey you!"
I called both in laws by their first names. Then when we had our first child they became Nana and Papa. Eventually I started calling FIL Papa all the time. I stuck with MILs first name though for some reason. I say Papa to people in town that know him, I text it when talking to my mom, it's rare for me to ever use his first name. Even DH and SIL alternate between Dad and Papa when there are no kids around.
My BIL calls my Mom Granny most of the time, the kids all call her grandma. He either says your mom or granny, I've never heard him say her first name. Maybe he does outside of family.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 15:23:50 GMT
Speaking as the mom of a transgender child, I've had a lot of learning in the "what you call someone" area.
What I've come away with is they should be called as they desire to be called.
I've also learned it's not my job to figure out what to call others. It is their job to decide and to share it w/those they love.
So, I think it's your parents' job to come up w/how they would like to be called. Not yours.
PS - It's never "too late" for someone to change what they are called.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Feb 1, 2020 15:37:54 GMT
Yeah, that ship sailed long ago. What prompted the sudden desire to tell you they didn't like it? What is the cultural norm for your parents and why didn't you clue your DH in when he met them? It's on them to tell others what they wish to be called. If they don't, and they don't like what others come up with, it's on them to change it or suffer with it.
I call(ed) my in laws by their names. I lived with them when DS was a newborn and DH was deployed. My MIL and I have traveled together. I couldn't imagine being that formal. My FIL has been gone for 20 years and he was like a father to me. Me and my MIL are the only ones who called him by his name, not the nickname version. Mostly I did because we named DS after him and called him by his proper name. My MIL and I have had a tricky relationship at times, but after 30 years of being family, we've sorted all that out and we get a long great. We're a lot alike in some respects and had similar childhood challenges. We understand each other even if we tend approach situations differently.
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Post by cycworker on Feb 1, 2020 15:56:38 GMT
My dad and all the other son in laws called my maternal grandparents Mother and Father, so I got nuthin'. I don't know what my mom called my dad's mom. She lived in Croatia, and I was 5 the one time I met her, my dad's dad died before her came to Canada,
Everyone in my family called my uncle's (mom's brother in law) dad Opa.
My parents are Nana and Dida to the grandkids; my brother's in laws are Grandma and Grandpa. In fact, my mom's other two sisters are also Nana. The one grandpa is grandpa, and the other, before he passed away, was Opa.
They need to decide,
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Post by malibou on Feb 1, 2020 16:02:03 GMT
Dh and I have been married for 26 years and together for 30. We had Ds 19 years ago. In-laws were 40 when Dh was born, so they are quite old compared to my parents and they are British, which always felt a bit formal to me. We have always lived fairly close to my in-laws and see them at least once a month. Up until Ds was born, I just avoided calling them anything, and if it couldn't be avoided, I called them Mr. and Mrs. Surname. Since Ds came along, I call them grandma and grandpa if I have to call them something. They have never given any indication of what they would like to be called.
Dh calls my mom Mrs. Surname and it cracks her up. He calls my dad Gene Gene the dancing machine. Which cracks him up. Dh very seldom has seen my parents.
I was not prepared for how awkward the naming of my in-laws would be.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 1, 2020 16:23:45 GMT
I think you need to come back and fill us in on the cultural norm OP and if they are requesting Mr./Mrs. or Mom/Dad - I think it makes a difference on how you navigate. I can certainly attest that one can go a long, long time (I think my mom said 30+ years without using someone's name - her MIL). It does seem for my generation that grandparents picking different names for themselves for their grandkids than grandma so many people I know use that name themselves. My MIL and FIL are Nana and Papa and my cousin uses Gigi and Pop which is what her inlaws asked to be called by the grandkids. I also know lots of family members who use their inlaws native language for mother/father and it feels very different than calling them Mom/Dad - my cousin calls his MIL Ina for example.
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Post by ~summer~ on Feb 1, 2020 16:35:57 GMT
I think your husband should directly ask them what they preferred to be called.
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Post by pancakes on Feb 1, 2020 16:38:07 GMT
OP here to answer a few of the questions:
My parents need some suggestions, ha. The only things they have considered are actually what someone mentioned above — being called MIL and FIL (pronounced mill, etc). Except it can’t be FIL, because of course my brother’s name is Phillip.....and we call him Phil 😂. So the thought was MIL and PIL. As in parent-in-law. I feel like this is kind of weird, but the early Pea said it ended up sounding ok. Regardless, my parents are open to more suggestions, hence the post.
Cultural norm...truthfully I didn’t know until I just looked it up (thanks Google). That probably makes me a bad person, ha. My parents haven’t brought this option up, so I assume it’s not a solution they like. But I will offer it as a suggestion.
All of my relatives in the U.S. either didn’t have kids or the one group of cousins who are married call my aunt “Ma” (which is what I actually call my mom), and my uncle was never around so that was a non issue.
I call my MIL and FIL by their first names...and it’s been normal, but they are multi-gen Americans.
I’m glad to hear there are other Peas who/whose partners don’t call their in-laws much of anything. At least we are in the same boat, haha.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 16:42:30 GMT
MIL told me when we got married that I could call her whatever I liked. Well we would go shopping and I’d call out Mom in a crowd, but she wouldn’t hear me. I had to revert to using her first name to get her attention. We do a lot with both sides together and everyone is used to being referred to by their first names. No one really cares or has expressed anything different. I think if you prefer to be addressed a certain way, then you need to speak up when it happens. Waiting so many years and harboring resentment towards you SIL all that time seems just as disrespectful.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 1, 2020 16:44:33 GMT
What about mother/father in their native language - or is it english as well?
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Feb 1, 2020 16:47:42 GMT
Bitch and asshole
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 17:01:36 GMT
OP here to answer a few of the questions: My parents need some suggestions, ha. The only things they have considered are actually what someone mentioned above — being called MIL and FIL (pronounced mill, etc). Except it can’t be FIL, because of course my brother’s name is Phillip.....and we call him Phil 😂. So the thought was MIL and PIL. As in parent-in-law. I feel like this is kind of weird, but the early Pea said it ended up sounding ok. Regardless, my parents are open to more suggestions, hence the post. How about Mil and DIL (Mom in law and Dad in law) ? Since they suggested the MIL and not FIL
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Post by elaine on Feb 1, 2020 17:02:54 GMT
It's probably about 12 years too late for them to decide calling them by their first name is disrespectful. I'm at a complete loss as to what your poor husband can call them, if he's not allowed to call them by their first names, Mr and Mrs is odd, and Mom and Dad are off the table. It really doesn't leave much, does it? If I was your husband I'd be rather offended - cultural differences or not - and I'd probably avoid calling them anything. This exactly.
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Post by pancakes on Feb 1, 2020 17:05:58 GMT
What about mother/father in their native language - or is it english as well? English is their second language, but they’ve been here since the 80s and my brother and I were born in the US and only speak certain vocabulary words in their native language. Mostly food words/names haha So even I speak like 90% English with them. Very much a one foot in one culture and just a few toes in the other, which makes it really hard to navigate when it comes to traditions. I guess the whole traditions and norms thing has been coming up more lately since they’re about to be first time grandparents 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by mikewozowski on Feb 1, 2020 17:16:30 GMT
i just call them mimi and pa now. when i was your age i didn't call them anything.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 17:30:19 GMT
OP here to answer a few of the questions: My parents need some suggestions, ha. The only things they have considered are actually what someone mentioned above — being called MIL and FIL (pronounced mill, etc). Except it can’t be FIL, because of course my brother’s name is Phillip.....and we call him Phil 😂. So the thought was MIL and PIL. As in parent-in-law. I feel like this is kind of weird, but the early Pea said it ended up sounding ok. Regardless, my parents are open to more suggestions, hence the post. How about MIL and DIL (motherinlaw and dadinlaw) since FIL sounds like Phil. Or what is MIL and FIL in their first language since the issue if cultural. Maybe the first language cultural names or a variant on that would work.
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Post by roundtwo on Feb 1, 2020 17:32:06 GMT
I was not prepared for how awkward the naming of my in-laws would be. I agree - for almost 30 years, I didn't call my (now former) inlaws anything until we had kids and then I just referred to them as grandma and grandpa. We're a jumbled family now so it's mostly first names from the kids in law and step kids and that suits me just fine - I'm just glad they all like us enough to come and visit.
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Post by FurryP on Feb 1, 2020 17:35:13 GMT
It is strange that they don't want to be called by their names, but they need other people to help them come up with what to be called. After 12 years.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 1, 2020 17:45:54 GMT
What about mother/father in their native language - or is it english as well? English is their second language, but they’ve been here since the 80s and my brother and I were born in the US and only speak certain vocabulary words in their native language. Mostly food words/names haha So even I speak like 90% English with them. Very much a one foot in one culture and just a few toes in the other, which makes it really hard to navigate when it comes to traditions. I guess the whole traditions and norms thing has been coming up more lately since they’re about to be first time grandparents 🤷🏻♀️ Have they picked what they'd like to be called as grandparents? I'd lean to that if they don't have any other real preference and are looking for ideas. I think it'd be weird to suddenly start Mil and Dil/Pil 12 years later at the exact time they're introducing grandparent names. Now if they are expecting the grandchildren to call them grandmother/grandfather - perhaps that doesn't really help as it'd be pretty awkward for your husband. ETA I'll also add, I really don't think the fact you speak English with them most of the time precludes a cultural name. My brother called his MIL a variation of mother and she's American born and not sure she knows more than curse words in her parents' native language. It's just a nod to her heritage and really, a way to call her mom without it feeling weird to call a different woman mom.
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Post by peasapie on Feb 1, 2020 18:27:48 GMT
You said using mom and dad is off the table. Why?
I think in-laws should say, “Call me ____” and that it’s polite to call them that
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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Feb 1, 2020 18:58:45 GMT
Weird that they wait 12 years before saying something? I'm sorry but after 12 years of calling them one thing, I'd never be able to remember to call someone something else. I'm terrible about trying to call someone something different.
That said, I never call(ed) my inlaws anything. Not even my first MIL that I "kept in the divorce". Kept her, not her cheating son! We talked at least once a year until she died several years ago. We never lived close so it was easy not to call her anything.
My second MIL had Alzeheimers the whole time I knew her before she died so if I called her anything, it would have been Fay because she did know her name for part of the time. I did "babysit" her a few times. Unfortunately, my late DH died a few years after his parents.
My current MIL? We live only 45 miles away and been married 12 years and very seldom see her since my DH doesn't seem to be her favored of her 5 children and I'm invisible to her...
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 1, 2020 19:03:11 GMT
I avoided calling mine anything at all for years. I was not comfortable calling them mom and dad and they were not thrilled with being called by their first names. I’ve now been married to their son for over twenty years and just use their first names, but I am reading the suggestions here with interest.
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Post by chlerbie on Feb 1, 2020 19:54:33 GMT
I called my MIL by her first name and my DH called my father by his nickname. His son-in-law calls him by his first name (and me too--but I'm the stepmother in law.)
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Post by refugeepea on Feb 1, 2020 20:18:02 GMT
I'd wait until grandbaby is born and do a grandparent name; Nana, papa, whatever.
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Post by holly on Feb 1, 2020 23:03:46 GMT
I called my MIL by her first name. I was never comfortable calling her mom or some other derivative. She never lived close to us so we didn’t see her often. FIL wasn’t in the picture. My DH calls my mom, Mom. Has since the beginning, she loves it. He calls my Dad, Dad most of the time but sometimes by his first name as well. But my Dad lives across the country and we don’t see each other often so it’s a different type of relationship. He’s never called eithe of them by their surnames.
My cousins husband calls my aunt and uncle Mr and Mrs... they’ve been married almost 15 years and have 4 kids. Aunt and Uncle are very involved in their lives, watch the kids a few days a week, socialize together. I think it’s odd. It’s not what Aunt and Uncle have asked for.
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Post by littlemama on Feb 1, 2020 23:48:02 GMT
I'm amazed at how many people seem to be able to interact with their inlaws without calling them anything. What do you do if you need to get their attention?
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Post by Sue on Feb 2, 2020 0:29:40 GMT
I'm another one who felt uncomfortable calling my in-laws Mom or Dad. When my husband and I were dating it was Mr. and Mrs. but our first child came early in our marriage and Grandma and Grandpa quickly became the names of convenience and respect. And they were perfectly comfortable with me calling them that. My husband on the other hand always called my mother by her first name.
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Post by Linda on Feb 2, 2020 0:53:35 GMT
I called my late MIL Mom Surname. My late mother was Mum so no confusing.
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