How many of your favorite YouTubers are going to Patreon?

I tried Patreon for a scrapbooker I really like but quit it. I just don’t like the limitations vs You Tube. I am not going to subscribe to anyone on Patreon in the future. Those subscription fees would add up quickly. I’d rather spend it on supplies. I truly appreciate the people on YT that share process videos and there are still many on YT working with the new rules. That’s where I’ll stay.

I have high regard for people who produce quality content. For example, I support journalists and pay for my NY Times subscription.

If a scrapbooker were producing high quality regular videos, I’d pay for it. I haven’t found any, though, that fit that bill on YT. I think the only thing that has come close are scrap classes from Shimelle or Victoria Marie.

Nope I haven't jumped on the patreon band wagon for a few reasons.

I watch most of my YT on my tv so not sure I could do patreon on my tv. I do have a app on my firestick to cast stuff from my phone so it may be possible.

Not sure anyone I watch on YT is worth the fee every month, plus there is lots on YT that's free.

I would think the Youtubers who do both forums must struggle to produce great content for both.

Between a fee for netflix, prime, satellite yeah can't see me adding another fee.

How is the fee determined $1 vs $3 I wonder?

Who were the channels?

I didn't know about free content with ads. Maybe I'll check it out after all.

(Okay, this turned into a rant. I didn't realize I felt so strongly. LOL I'm not even sure that I really do. But, I just watched a video with someone (a booktuber, not a scrapbooker) whining about their time spent creating YT content. Boo hoo. Hobbies do take up time.)

Anyway ....

For me, Scrapbook YT was all about the fun. I mainly watch hobbyist scrapbookers. There is no one who has any content that needs me to go from free (with ads) to paying $. My view is that most of the people that I watch on YT started as scrapbookers who wanted to extend their own hobby, i.e., both scrapbooking and YT are their hobbies. As they got more subscribers, they got to monetize. Good for them. But, when I have to start hearing how they need me to pay them for them to do their hobbies of scrapbooking and YTing, I'm out. My money needs to go to my supplies not some other scrapbooker's supplies.

Are there nuances to this, sure. I have purchased scrapbookers classes. There are people who've turned it into a business, but were clear about that. I chose what I wanted to spend my money on. I didn't just hand them over money so they could scrapbook at their own whim. There's a difference between that and me paying someone to work on their own scrapbooks.

If someone wants to make a buck off their scrapbooking, fine. But, be a professional and clear about that from day one, not a hobbyist who did it for fun at first, and now feels owed something for previously free content. We watch the ads, subscribe and like. That's what a hobbyist gets for their YT hobby. You want $$, then you need to offer content above and beyond scrapbooking your kids on video. Really, someone asking us to now hand over our hard earned cash for the privilege of watching them scrapbook is just gross.

YouTube has been a big staple for me in a lot of areas for over a decade. I enjoy watching videos, creating videos and the ability to chat with subbies in the comments.

So I don't see myself ever leaving. I have ONE online class and quietly promoted it. I don't have the view count to montetize yet. But if I get there I probably will throw ONE ad the beginning. Not so much for me to bank roll my hobby lol, seriously more for curiosity on how long it takes to earn a dollar on a scrapbook video but I also don't mind YT themselves getting slme pennies too because they offer me a FREE video hosting site with built in viewers.

I support Inkie Quill and Victoria Marie on Patreon, as well as a cartoonist I really like. I've been supporting all three for quite a while now. Victoria often hosts online hangouts for her Gold and Platinum tiers where she crafts and chats with the viewers, some of us craft along, or do other things while chatting. Adele (Inkie Quill) does live streams on Youtube, for free. However, both women provide a LOT of quality content on Patreon that, in my opinion, add to the experience I get to enjoy on Youtube. More videos, longer videos, printables, sketches, all sorts of things. They're both still very active on Youtube but Patreon allows them to provide additional content should the viewer want to access more. I spend $25/mo for the both of them together ($30 if you include the cartoonist) and am happy to do so because I feel that what they are providing is worth the money.

I appreciate that there is a choice, and that I don't HAVE to give either of them money to watch their content if I don't have to. It isn't a matter of leaving Youtube for something else. But I enjoy them enough to support their gigs as both are doing this full time, professionally, and I like the communities that they've created.

I wonder if this is part of it for me. Too many people that want to be paid are not professional. I’m not paying to watch someone fumble, ramble, dig through their supplies and repeat themselves because they are unprepared. We wouldn’t support other businesses that produce that type of product.

Now there seems to be a trend to make longer videos. Darn it, I do not have 45 minutes to over an hour to just sit and watch someone else scrapbook or sort stuff   And the chatter, ugh! 

Agree. I support journalism too because I believe it's important. I've been an NPR supporter since my first job out of college. I happily pay for quality classes (scrappy & art classes) but I get annoyed when I've purchases a class and the video quality isn't good. I've been a supporter of the Awesome Ladies Project for ages. I don't support anyone on Patreon but I might depending on the scrapper. I love sleepingbooty philosophy. That's a great way to think about it. 

I think it absolutely sucks the way YouTube re-did their rules so the smaller channels get little to no revenue. It was a shit move by a big corporation that's making tons of money on the ads and by harvesting the data of the folks watching the videos. 

I support a scrapbooker on PATREON at $10 a month. I'm considering whether or not it's worth the value. I will probably end it this month. She films her videos so that they can be viewed via YOUTUBE. I really like that option.

Ultimately, I think I would rather pay for a class like FULL TILT BOOGIE or REMAINS OF THE DAY by.Mary Ann Moss .

Thanks for spurring me to make a better financial investment!

I love Janet @rts but am not following her to Patreon for these reasons: I am tired of everyone trying to turn their content into subscriptions - recurring charges. It's happening to TV/cable too. I really prefer the affiliate link type compensation for those You Tube videos I watch or blogs I read. Jen Mcguire "sells" me on something, I click her link and she gets a little commission = that seems fair to me. I don't need to pay her $$ every month whether I have time to look at her stuff or not.

I have found it to be a better value if I can pay for something such as a class or a set period of time. I rarely finish classes that are spread out over a long period of time. I used to like Big Picture Scrapbooking before it became a subscription. If Patreon would let me pay for 6 months with no auto-renew I might consider it. Otherwise, no thanks. (Besides, it looks like that platform has many operational issues.)

The other thing that annoys me to no end is that her followers want to say that she's not really making money. She is only charging a $1 because Patreon requires her to charge something. She is doing it for the love of the craft. Come on now, with thousands of subscribers, she is making money. And I am totally okay with that - she does the work she deserves to be paid and she gets to determine how she is paid. She is also free to figure out if it was worth her while in the long run to make the change when it won't work for all her followers. But half as many paid subscribers is better than twice as many free subscribers - so go Janet go.

I am just not into the cult of personality/celebrity. Even if I watch a crafter all the time, I would not consider them my friend without knowing them personally in real life. And so I don't take their business decisions personally. Which I guess is why I don't care what the heck Becky Higgins does, I will just deal with whatever PL products I can find.

I'm not going to pay to watch scrappy videos. First I don't religiously watch any one person.

Secondly, I don't have the time to watch paid content.

And for a host of other reasons as well that I'm too lazy to type out. 😀

I think there's a lot of really good and interesting scrap videos on YT.

I've actually found a couple new (at least to me) that I've been enjoying, but I'm horrible at remembering names. I just find them again in my history.

But if people want to pay for content that's their choice.

And if people want to charge for content that's their choice as well.

But don't make excuses for doing it.

And this is probably old and I'm late to the game. Again. Right?

😁

Inkie Quill and Mercy Tiara are both still very active on Youtube though, they didn't move over entirely. Patreon is just bonus content for them.