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Post by alexa11 on Apr 7, 2020 0:26:43 GMT
I would've TOLD him to mind his own business. This "essential" or "nonessential" thing is getting way out of hand. It's too subjective- buy what you want! ETA: I spend numerous hours every day in Publix buying loads of junk food for customers. Tell me that's essential.
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 7, 2020 0:30:12 GMT
While navigating around lots of people in my personal space has frustrated me recently, I don’t look to see what’s in their carts, at all. It’s none of my business. You really don’t know if they’re shopping for a vulnerable family member and that’s why they have extras, or if they just needed to give their kids a mental boost with some new puzzles and games.
Most people are just doing the best they can.
Enjoy your orchids.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 7, 2020 0:30:32 GMT
Sounds like someone just needs to learn to mind his own business. I'm quoting you, but not directing this TO you. It's to the board in general... to all of us. This board really needs to decide what our collective response is. There's thread after thread about "I saw X doing Y" and everyone piles on to call them names and express soaring levels of outrage at their unbelievable behavior. "Don't they *get* it?!?!?" There have been many comments about yard stuff and flowers not being essential. But, now we turn on our collective heel and decide, "No, what this X did doing Y was FINE. Fine, I tell you. People should mind their own business." We can't have it both ways. Cake and eat it too? You're right of course. The Peas will respond differently depending on whether the thread is about some random person seen at Lowe's stocking up on non essential items, or about one of "our own" doing the same thing. The response will also often differ depending on who the Pea is - whether they are popular or not. I'm not going to say that I wouldn't have done the same thing as the OP, if I passed other things I wanted. But I will say that if I went to Bunnings to get Drano, I wouldn't stop to get a cart FOR ONE ITEM. I wouldn't get a cart for one item in normal times, and I sure as hell wouldn't get a cart these days, when a hundred other potentially germ-ridden people have touched that cart today. And anyway, all of our stores similar to Lowe's always have the gardening products right up the end of the store, nowhere near Drano and other cleaning products, so I couldn't have stopped to get an orchid on the way to the Drano even if I wanted to.
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Post by ellen on Apr 7, 2020 0:41:30 GMT
We went to Lowe's last week on the second day of the Stay at Home order in our state. We had picked up painting supplies about two weeks beforehand and we ran out paint and needed about a quart to finish. While they mixed the paint, we bought a run. Hardly anyone was in our store. I really wish that we would have bought a few more things for my husband to work on while we were there because his restlessness is driving me crazy. We're not going back though. Thankfully he started watching Ozark today and that should keep him entertained until all the snow is gone in our yard and he can start raking and cleaning things up.
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Post by tenacious on Apr 7, 2020 3:23:07 GMT
I am in the middle of a remodel. I do not have a kitchen. I've had to go to Lowe's or Home Depot daily for random crap. If someone even dares to yell "unessential items" at me I will not hold back. I will unleash the stress of the last three weeks on them. Even if you did go out for plants only who the eff cares? All the nursery's around here are still open. On Saturday, while out on a Home Depot run, Green Acres was PACKED! I feel you. We are at the tail end of our remodel, and it has made staying home so much harder and more complicated. The bank also won’t close our loan until the remodel is done, so it’s quite complicated. We do have a kitchen, tho! I can’t imagine... Hang in there!!
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Post by azgrandma on Apr 7, 2020 3:30:18 GMT
No, you were not wrong. I know that over the weekend in many of the stores they have implemented only essential items policies. Personally, I think is ridiculous. Was there a sign stating that fact? I would have questioned the person who spoke to you that way. And, personally, I would not do business there again in the future once this whole thing is over with. I have a few stores that I will not be going into again once this is over simply due to the way they are treating their customers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 4:27:08 GMT
My next trip out is to get storage containers for my daughter’s stuff. Her bedroom is now our office. And at some point she is going to take all her shit with her.
She is excited because we will be buy a queen size sofa bed. No more twin bed for her.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Apr 7, 2020 4:50:56 GMT
I’m another one who always gets s shopping cart. Feed my hands to, and frankly, I lean on it.
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Post by MsChiff on Apr 7, 2020 15:52:37 GMT
I don’t think what you did is wrong and likely would have done the same. However, I do remember a post saying that some stores were only allowed to sell essential items and couldn’t ring up nonessential items. Theory was to prevent the lure to browse or buy nonessential items. I get that as some are using the excuse to buy essentials as a reason to go out and get their shopping fix. I wouldn’t be surprised if places like hardware stores will be forced to close at some point and only offer curbside pickup. I am definitely not going to say it was an excuse to just go to the store. DD advised me that the water in her shower was not going down. So yeah, maybe I was a little thrilled to have to run to Lowe's. Just to get out. But I am not going to not go and let that water issue get worse either.. gross. So there were a few things along my route. Am I happy about it? Yep, you bet. Did I want to wander up and down the rows.. SURE did.. but I didn't. I glanced longingly around me wanting to browse, but I didn't. Those brand new washer/dryers were begging me to stop and pet them. But did I?? Nope.. I just gave them a look that I would be back someday to ogle over them. Let's be honest -- It's entirely possible nothing you bought at the store was essential. The drain is working, albeit slow. Did you plunge the drain? Did you try remedies using items you already have at home? Is this the only shower in the house and if it doesn't work nobody takes a shower? If the answers to the second two questions are yes (and the first question if you own a plunger), then buying the Drano may have been essential. The soil, plant and wastebasket definitely were not essential. By going to the store, you introduced germs that you didn't need to to the people working in the store as well as to those who were at the store for true essentials. By staying in the store longer than it took to walk in, get the Drano, cash out and leave (and each additional item you added to your cart took additional time in adding it and in checking out), the more germs you spread and the more germs you inhaled. Are the items you bought worth the potential exposure, illness and possibly death your family and/or the other people you encountered? The fact that other people are doing the same (going out for non-essential reasons) doesn't justify our doing the same. We are a spoiled society that has never had reason to determine what is actually an essential, are used to having what we want when we want it, and who and can easily justify why non-essentials are essentials. If someone in my family dies, it's certainly not essential for me to buy a plant for their grave or to buy one to cheer me up. Buying yarn because the happiness crocheting brings bolsters my mental health doesn't make yarn an essential. I don't need to be happy and upbeat every second of my life and it's certainly not essential to my health. The ability to justify non-essentials is a problem because the more we go out, the more germs and this virus are spread, the longer we will be asked/required to stay home and the more our economy will suffer. What we all should be doing is staying at home and only going out on the rare occasion for true essentials so that this pandemic can stop, people can live without fear, and we can enjoy the summer. That said, I don't think it's anyone's place to be publicly chastising others.
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Post by artbabe on Apr 7, 2020 16:15:11 GMT
The last time I bought groceries I bought a plant. You have to go through the floral section to get produce. It absolutely wasn't essential, I just passed it and it was an impulse buy. I was there for milk, eggs, and produce.
I don't judge shopping carts. I do judge people not staying 6 feet away from each other. It makes me rage but I don't say anything to them.
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Post by dewryce on Apr 7, 2020 16:29:32 GMT
The way I interpret getting "essentials" is to go to the shop, go to what you need, pay and go home. It's the wheeling the cart around looking at multiple things like it's "normal" shopping that isn't on as far as I'm concerned and in that aspect I do the think the OP was in the wrong. Wandering around browsing, stopping and looking at various things...that is NOT essential. That is exactly what we are not supposed to do. The fact that you got a cart when all you went there for was draino hows that you had every intention of wandering around looking at other things and that's the exact opposite of what buying essentials means.It's not the exact items that are being purchased...it's also how someone is doing it. I'm having my flu vaccine tomorrow (we are being told to have them and to go to pharmacies and GPs) as a nurse it's an essential for me every year anyway, the pharmacy I'm going to is large, it sells skin care, make-up etc, just because I'm already in the shop doesn't mean it's OK to wander around and look at lipsticks etc. like I normally do. Usually they make you wait for 10 mins after the vaccine to make sure there is no reaction and I'll do that if it's still required, but other than that I expect to be in and out in under 15 mins and on my way home. There will be no looking at other stuff just because I'm already in the shop. I agree with what you’re saying about getting in and getting essentials and getting out. And even if she had planned it to go down a certain aisle on the way out and grab something she needed, she had to walk towards the front down an aisle, why not that one? Get in. Get it done. But this is a good example of how our assumptions can be wrong. I have a back issues and get a cart every single time I go into a store, even if it is literally just to buy one item. It helps me hold myself up and alleviates my lower back pain. It’s the difference between being able to shop or not for me. Same with driving. I do much better as the driver because my arms help me sit up straight.
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Post by Merge on Apr 7, 2020 16:37:45 GMT
What about cookies or chips in the grocery store? Are we supposed to only buy the type of food actually required to live? No wine? No chocolate? No fruit?
And if we are only buying what's necessary to live, I have bad news for all the people stocking up on meat and milk. 😂
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Post by moodyblue on Apr 7, 2020 16:45:21 GMT
I am definitely not going to say it was an excuse to just go to the store. DD advised me that the water in her shower was not going down. So yeah, maybe I was a little thrilled to have to run to Lowe's. Just to get out. But I am not going to not go and let that water issue get worse either.. gross. So there were a few things along my route. Am I happy about it? Yep, you bet. Did I want to wander up and down the rows.. SURE did.. but I didn't. I glanced longingly around me wanting to browse, but I didn't. Those brand new washer/dryers were begging me to stop and pet them. But did I?? Nope.. I just gave them a look that I would be back someday to ogle over them. ... That said, I don't think it's anyone's place to be publicly chastising others. I think you just did.
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 7, 2020 17:04:17 GMT
What about cookies or chips in the grocery store? Are we supposed to only buy the type of food actually required to live? No wine? No chocolate? No fruit? And if we are only buying what's necessary to live, I have bad news for all the people stocking up on meat and milk. 😂 Dr Birx said we shouldn’t be going to the grocery store or pharmacy this week at all.
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 7, 2020 17:19:57 GMT
... That said, I don't think it's anyone's place to be publicly chastising others. I think you just did.  ya think? OYE... I could lock myself in my house till the very last piece of rice is gone. Everyone has a different opinion.. I suppose I could have done without the Draino. I suppose she could share my shower with me. I could have gone into Lowe's and bought a new sink and cabinet since the one in our hall is broken. But no, that is on hold for now. Maybe I should just let the entire bathroom fall apart during this so that I can spend twice as much fixing. But I won't be spreading ALL my germs to the five people that I saw from 20 feet away or the cashier who was standing 3 feet away from me behind a plastic shield.
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 7, 2020 17:57:40 GMT
 ya think? OYE... I could lock myself in my house till the very last piece of rice is gone. Everyone has a different opinion.. I suppose I could have done without the Draino. I suppose she could share my shower with me. I could have gone into Lowe's and bought a new sink and cabinet since the one in our hall is broken. But no, that is on hold for now. Maybe I should just let the entire bathroom fall apart during this so that I can spend twice as much fixing. But I won't be spreading ALL my germs to the five people that I saw from 20 feet away or the cashier who was standing 3 feet away from me behind a plastic shield. Yes Dr Birx has a different opinion; she says we shouldn’t even be going to the grocery store or pharmacy right now.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 7, 2020 18:00:53 GMT
ahhh- THIS is the reason my mother said she might not be able to go to the grocery store again, even though Illinois (where they live) already HAS a shelter-in-place order!! She's been listening to the task force press briefings. I gotta tell her to stop that, for her MENTAL health. eta: I don't know how much I want to listen to someone who doesn't even practice the 6-foot rule ON CAMERA, ON NATIONAL TELEVISION.
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Post by dewryce on Apr 7, 2020 18:05:34 GMT
 ya think? OYE... I could lock myself in my house till the very last piece of rice is gone. Everyone has a different opinion.. I suppose I could have done without the Draino. I suppose she could share my shower with me. I could have gone into Lowe's and bought a new sink and cabinet since the one in our hall is broken. But no, that is on hold for now. Maybe I should just let the entire bathroom fall apart during this so that I can spend twice as much fixing. But I won't be spreading ALL my germs to the five people that I saw from 20 feet away or the cashier who was standing 3 feet away from me behind a plastic shield. Yes Dr Birx has a different opinion; she says we shouldn’t even be going to the grocery store or pharmacy right now. Is it because we are expecting to hit the peak (this time) in 10 days? The longer we can put that off the better chance of getting needed supplies to hospitals.
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 7, 2020 18:38:01 GMT
ahhh- THIS is the reason my mother said she might not be able to go to the grocery store again, even though Illinois (where they live) already HAS a shelter-in-place order!! She's been listening to the task force press briefings. I gotta tell her to stop that, for her MENTAL health. eta: I don't know how much I want to listen to someone who doesn't even practice the 6-foot rule ON CAMERA, ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. Yes that right? But they are testing and doing temperature checks now at least. But now there’s this report today that the FEMA/Supply Chain portion of the task force has a positive case and isolating now. www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1178331
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 7, 2020 18:40:05 GMT
Yes Dr Birx has a different opinion; she says we shouldn’t even be going to the grocery store or pharmacy right now. Is it because we are expecting to hit the peak (this time) in 10 days? The longer we can put that off the better chance of getting needed supplies to hospitals. Yes Excerpt here: WASHINGTON - The White House Coronavirus Task Force over the weekend urged Americans to avoid going to grocery stores and pharmacies over the next two weeks as the pandemic is expected to worsen across the country. Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House's task force coordinator, made the warning during a weekend press conference. "The next two weeks are extraordinarily important," said Birx. "This is the moment to not be going to the grocery store, not going to the pharmacy, but doing everything you can to keep your family and your friends safe and that means everybody doing the 6-feet distancing, washing their hands." Related: ‘Toughest’ weeks ahead as coronavirus spreads, Trump says Her remarks were echoed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a member of the task force, who emphasized the importance of social distancing to slow the spread of COVID-19. “As sobering and a difficult as this is, what we are doing is making a difference,” Fauci said.
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Post by moodyblue on Apr 7, 2020 19:09:10 GMT
Is it because we are expecting to hit the peak (this time) in 10 days? The longer we can put that off the better chance of getting needed supplies to hospitals. Yes Excerpt here: WASHINGTON - The White House Coronavirus Task Force over the weekend urged Americans to avoid going to grocery stores and pharmacies over the next two weeks as the pandemic is expected to worsen across the country. Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House's task force coordinator, made the warning during a weekend press conference. "The next two weeks are extraordinarily important," said Birx. "This is the moment to not be going to the grocery store, not going to the pharmacy, but doing everything you can to keep your family and your friends safe and that means everybody doing the 6-feet distancing, washing their hands." Related: ‘Toughest’ weeks ahead as coronavirus spreads, Trump says Her remarks were echoed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a member of the task force, who emphasized the importance of social distancing to slow the spread of COVID-19. “As sobering and a difficult as this is, what we are doing is making a difference,” Fauci said. I needed to get things for my brother, especially eggs and other proteins for his dialysis diet, so I went yesterday - and I bought more than he asked for so I won’t have to go again for, I hope, at least two weeks. We can’t time everything perfectly, since the guidance can change every day, but I’m trying to minimize trips anywhere.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 7, 2020 19:11:12 GMT
We can’t time everything perfectly, since the guidance can change every day, but I’m trying to minimize trips anywhere. we also can't time everything perfectly because the peak is expected at different times in different states. The peak in cases isn't expected in Arizona until the end of April, and in some states isn't expected until the beginning of May. So personally, I don't see what this 'stay home the next two weeks' will accomplish- except to falsely lull people into thinking things like, "oh, two weeks from now everything will be good again!"
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Post by Merge on Apr 7, 2020 19:15:35 GMT
What about cookies or chips in the grocery store? Are we supposed to only buy the type of food actually required to live? No wine? No chocolate? No fruit? And if we are only buying what's necessary to live, I have bad news for all the people stocking up on meat and milk. 😂 Dr Birx said we shouldn’t be going to the grocery store or pharmacy this week at all. Yes, but this is a general thread about this situation, not specifically about this week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 19:34:07 GMT
I needed some Draino and Lowe's is the closest place and figured it would be less crowded/hassle than going to the grocery store. So I pull up and grab a cart. I ALWAYS get a cart just in case I see other items. On my way back to the plumbing section where the keep the Draino, I stopped in the garden (inside) and grabbed some potting soil for a orchid flower/plant that my cousin gave me. It was outgrowing my pot. So figure this would be a good time to work on my flowers. So got that in my cart. Next to the potting soil was a huge cart of clearance flowers and such and there was a beautiful orchid for next to nothing. Thought well since I have the one and enough soil, I will try my hand out on growing two of them. So threw that in my cart. Moved on to my Draino and on my way back up front some guy yelled (apparently at me although it happened so fast I didn't respond).. he was yelling "unessential stuff". I was like 'whatttt?' Who are you talking to? Then it dawned on me it was ME he was yelling at. I thought "DUDE you have no idea why I am here".. I would have not gone in just to buy a flower/soil but since I was there and I literally passed by it.. why not. AND on my way out, I bought a new trash can for the kitchen. That was also on my list for later on but again right on my way out I literally went down that aisle (just a chance) to get to the registers.. so I just put it in my cart. Maybe I was wrong? But I was there for a needed item and the other items were literally near me and on my path. Is that wrong to get the other items. I was in the store maybe 10 minutes, and saw maybe 5 other people and not near me. This was posted on to Facebook and I couldn't agree with it more....do your thing! "I couldn’t agree more... THIS! ❤️👏🏻👏🏻 I've seen alot of nasty posts in regards to people making "non-essential" trips .. Do you ever think maybe that guy buying a gallon of paint knows he must keep busy because idle hands in the past has caused him to relapse and pick up that case of beer ? So he's using this time to do home improvements, something that keeps his mind busy while feeling a sense of accomplishment, trying to avoid painful triggers while possibly alone ? Or maybe that lady buying bags of soil and seeds, hasn't struggled with depression and suicide ? How do you know that planting and watching something beautiful grow during this time of darkness , isn't essential to her and holding on to what little hope she might still have .. We need to remember that it is impossible to know just by looking at a situation from "our" small lens what someone is truly going through or where their mental health is at . Everyone handles chaos and healing through different means , and I know we are all on edge but please stop being SO JUDGMENTAL of others. 💖 #mentalhealthisnumberone"
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Post by gale w on Apr 7, 2020 19:56:44 GMT
Our local walmart just posted, advertising sidewalk salt on clearance. It's 77 degrees out and although it still gets cold in April, it's not likely that sidewalks will need to be salted.
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 7, 2020 20:19:38 GMT
Dr Birx said we shouldn’t be going to the grocery store or pharmacy this week at all. Yes, but this is a general thread about this situation, not specifically about this week. ? If we’re not supposed to be at the grocery store or pharmacy we probably aren’t supposed to be at Lowe’s either.
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Post by samantha25 on Apr 7, 2020 20:22:19 GMT
Our local walmart just posted, advertising sidewalk salt on clearance. It's 77 degrees out and although it still gets cold in April, it's not likely that sidewalks will need to be salted. Colorado squall is predicted in a few days.
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Post by gale w on Apr 7, 2020 20:25:00 GMT
Our local walmart just posted, advertising sidewalk salt on clearance. It's 77 degrees out and although it still gets cold in April, it's not likely that sidewalks will need to be salted. Colorado squall is predicted in a few days. Eek. That sucks. We don't usually get cold enough weather this later in the season for sidewalks to get icy. May be a weird year though.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 7, 2020 20:26:58 GMT
That said, I don't think it's anyone's place to be publicly chastising others. But didn't you JUST do that here...PUBLICLY???
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Post by Merge on Apr 7, 2020 20:38:57 GMT
Yes, but this is a general thread about this situation, not specifically about this week. ? If we’re not supposed to be at the grocery store or pharmacy we probably aren’t supposed to be at Lowe’s either. Never mind. I'm clearly not making my point very well.
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