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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 6, 2020 14:30:44 GMT
I needed some Draino and Lowe's is the closest place and figured it would be less crowded/hassle than going to the grocery store.
So I pull up and grab a cart. I ALWAYS get a cart just in case I see other items. On my way back to the plumbing section where the keep the Draino, I stopped in the garden (inside) and grabbed some potting soil for a orchid flower/plant that my cousin gave me. It was outgrowing my pot. So figure this would be a good time to work on my flowers. So got that in my cart. Next to the potting soil was a huge cart of clearance flowers and such and there was a beautiful orchid for next to nothing. Thought well since I have the one and enough soil, I will try my hand out on growing two of them. So threw that in my cart.
Moved on to my Draino and on my way back up front some guy yelled (apparently at me although it happened so fast I didn't respond).. he was yelling "unessential stuff". I was like 'whatttt?' Who are you talking to? Then it dawned on me it was ME he was yelling at. I thought "DUDE you have no idea why I am here"..
I would have not gone in just to buy a flower/soil but since I was there and I literally passed by it.. why not.
AND on my way out, I bought a new trash can for the kitchen. That was also on my list for later on but again right on my way out I literally went down that aisle (just a chance) to get to the registers.. so I just put it in my cart.
Maybe I was wrong? But I was there for a needed item and the other items were literally near me and on my path. Is that wrong to get the other items. I was in the store maybe 10 minutes, and saw maybe 5 other people and not near me.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Apr 6, 2020 14:36:17 GMT
No, you weren't wrong to pick up other items while you were there. I have yet to hear of any official orders banning purchases of "non essential" items. Sounds like someone just needs to learn to mind his own business.
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 6, 2020 14:37:42 GMT
Listen.
It's fine. You're fine. Get your orchid. You didn't go out just to buy a plant. That, maybe don't do that. But you needed the draino and you minimized your out time by buying other things you needed anyway (garbage can).
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Post by smartypants71 on Apr 6, 2020 14:38:07 GMT
I was not aware that we were only allowed what someone deems essential. You could make a case for any of those things though. I would not be ok with some random guy yelling at me though and definitely would have responded.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 14:41:15 GMT
No I don't think so. We went to Menards recently. Initially, the list was for stuff that DH really didn't need but needed a project to keep his hands busy. While we were there, I got a case of furnace filters for my parents, garbage bags for us, a seed cake for the birds, a lightbulb to replace the one DH broke while cleaning out the shed, and one of those cubbies set.
I saw a post this morning that basically said don't judge those who are buying "non essential" stuff. It may look like non essential to you but to the guy that's buying wood it's the difference between relapsing and getting drunk and staying sober. Replace wood with dirt and plants.
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Post by joelise on Apr 6, 2020 14:42:28 GMT
I don’t think you were in the wrong. If you’d gone just to buy the flowers then that probably wouldn’t have been right. Although garden centres in UK are leaving their plants outside and telling people to take them because otherwise they will just die, as the garden centres are shut.
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 6, 2020 14:43:07 GMT
Was it an employee or just a random person also out shopping?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 14:43:10 GMT
No. You were not wrong. What is wrong is people like my sister, who are out shopping for something to do. Like get off work (from an ER mind you) and go to Sam's Club, (grab a few things) Home Depot, (just want to see what they have), Starbucks (gotta have that latte) and wherever else is open just to browse. This is where it gets hairy, and where we can see the people get divided and we can see who abides by the honor system and who thinks they are a special snowflake (my sister). You were out with a purpose (Draino-essential) and those items were in your basic path. You are not wrong and there is something called common decency which means that strange men to not get the privilege of yelling at you.
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Post by bianca42 on Apr 6, 2020 14:45:05 GMT
My Mom works at a greenhouse. They are doing curbside pickup of plants. Totally not essential, but it's making a few people happy.
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Post by cycworker on Apr 6, 2020 14:46:07 GMT
You weren't wrong.
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Post by auntkelly on Apr 6, 2020 14:48:08 GMT
People need to mind their own business. For all that man knew, you might have been buying that flower to put on someone’s grave.
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Post by jemmls4 on Apr 6, 2020 14:48:53 GMT
No, not wrong. I try to shop with a list but I know I don’t have everything on there. Also, sometimes, (especially at grocery store), some ingredient will spur a recipe and I think it through and need to grab other items.
Now if you were just going up and down the aisles and going in and out of stores because you’re bored, that’s a whole different kettle of fish.
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Post by scorpeao on Apr 6, 2020 14:49:28 GMT
I am in the middle of a remodel. I do not have a kitchen. I've had to go to Lowe's or Home Depot daily for random crap. If someone even dares to yell "unessential items" at me I will not hold back. I will unleash the stress of the last three weeks on them. Even if you did go out for plants only who the eff cares? All the nursery's around here are still open. On Saturday, while out on a Home Depot run, Green Acres was PACKED!
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Apr 6, 2020 14:54:23 GMT
Sounds like someone just needs to learn to mind his own business. I'm quoting you, but not directing this TO you. It's to the board in general... to all of us. This board really needs to decide what our collective response is. There's thread after thread about "I saw X doing Y" and everyone piles on to call them names and express soaring levels of outrage at their unbelievable behavior. "Don't they *get* it?!?!?" There have been many comments about yard stuff and flowers not being essential. But, now we turn on our collective heel and decide, "No, what this X did doing Y was FINE. Fine, I tell you. People should mind their own business." We can't have it both ways. Cake and eat it too?
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 6, 2020 14:57:29 GMT
Okay.. didn't think I was wrong.. but maybe I draw my line further than other people...
I thought maybe he was an employee but it happened so fast, I didn't know what hit me. I am pretty "sure" it was another customer.. no cart, nothing in his hand (not that I care).
If someone went to Lowe's I would never judge what they have in their cart. I am not the police. The store is open, if I need something, that is all I care about. Even though the soil was on my home to do list, I didn't make it a point to just go get soil. When I needed the Draino, then I was like, I'll get my soil now that I am going to be there. So I picked another flower and a trash can.. lol..
I can't plant flowers outside yet.. (Colorado still gets hit by snowstorms in April).. so no flowers (for me) until Memorial Weekend.
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Post by mandolyn9909 on Apr 6, 2020 15:00:06 GMT
First of all I would consider planting soil essential, He doens't know you are using it for flowers or vegetables. Draino would also be considered essential. That guy has the issue.
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 6, 2020 15:06:55 GMT
Sort of like the judgy people who shout "You don't look handicapped" when my husband parks his car in a handicapped spot (with his placard.) He just smiles and says "Thank You!" He's thrilled that I don't have to push him around in a wheelchair anymore and he can actually walk in the store on his own.
I just got back from my Costco run, and they had plenty of plants, soil, and fertilizer out that lots of people were buying. I was tempted, but it's really still too early here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 15:09:00 GMT
This board really needs to decide what our collective response is. I don't think we can. (apologies if you were kidding and I am taking that too seriously) I see parents let kids play on the closed school playground by my house, tons of kids running around, playing together all on the same stuff, while the parents stand 6 feet apart. Grrrr... My sister tells me she gets off work at a hospital and then goes to Sam's Club. Does she really need anything? Probably not. I know her, she hates sitting at home and likes to shop. She does this almost every day. Grrrrrr... Some strange man yelled at someone for getting a flower along with her Draino....Grrrrrr at him. There is just so. much. sh*t. happening....that I think there is no one response to every situation. It's a lot of grrrrrrrr....
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Post by pjaye on Apr 6, 2020 15:13:19 GMT
The way I interpret getting "essentials" is to go to the shop, go to what you need, pay and go home.
It's the wheeling the cart around looking at multiple things like it's "normal" shopping that isn't on as far as I'm concerned and in that aspect I do the think the OP was in the wrong. Wandering around browsing, stopping and looking at various things...that is NOT essential. That is exactly what we are not supposed to do. The fact that you got a cart when all you went there for was draino hows that you had every intention of wandering around looking at other things and that's the exact opposite of what buying essentials means. It's not the exact items that are being purchased...it's also how someone is doing it.
I'm having my flu vaccine tomorrow (we are being told to have them and to go to pharmacies and GPs) as a nurse it's an essential for me every year anyway, the pharmacy I'm going to is large, it sells skin care, make-up etc, just because I'm already in the shop doesn't mean it's OK to wander around and look at lipsticks etc. like I normally do. Usually they make you wait for 10 mins after the vaccine to make sure there is no reaction and I'll do that if it's still required, but other than that I expect to be in and out in under 15 mins and on my way home. There will be no looking at other stuff just because I'm already in the shop.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Apr 6, 2020 15:17:19 GMT
I don't think we can. (apologies if you were kidding and I am taking that too seriously) I'm partly kidding and partly serious, I suppose. I just get bemused by the amount of commentary on here by people who are quite sure "they" know how everyone else should behave and are more than ready to pass judgement on it. I fully agree that situation is complex and ever-changing. It IS hard to know what one's response should be.
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Post by mikewozowski on Apr 6, 2020 15:19:00 GMT
if i need something that seems non essential, i am going to walmart or target where they have food that i needplus the other things i need (spray paint). i feel like that is ok, plus you won't run into much of anyone in the spray paint aisle.
i wouldn't make a special trip just for the spray paint, though.
last time i was at the store (which had WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE IN IT) there was a family of four there shopping. it has been said that only ONE person from a household should go to the store, but here we are with the whole family. i didn't say anything to them, but i did say to myself, "what the F is wrong with you idiots?" why does a young family need to take everyone to the store? i am ok with stores limiting groups to one or two people.
when we were leaving, there was a large group of people all gathered out near the edge of the parking lot. looked like they wanted to hang out. LOTS of cars (20 or more) people getting out and fist bumping and touching each other. again, i didn't say anything, but WTF? this SH!T doesn't work when so many people disregard the "rules".
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Apr 6, 2020 15:20:04 GMT
Sounds like someone just needs to learn to mind his own business. I'm quoting you, but not directing this TO you. It's to the board in general... to all of us. This board really needs to decide what our collective response is. There's thread after thread about "I saw X doing Y" and everyone piles on to call them names and express soaring levels of outrage at their unbelievable behavior. "Don't they *get* it?!?!?" There have been many comments about yard stuff and flowers not being essential. But, now we turn on our collective heel and decide, "No, what this X did doing Y was FINE. Fine, I tell you. People should mind their own business." We can't have it both ways. Cake and eat it too? I think we just need to stop judging situations we don’t know the whole story on so much. There could be a hundred explanations for things. “She had 5 gallons of milk!” She could be buying for a couple families. “There’s kids at her house everyday playing!” Maybe they’re watching them because both the parents are hospital workers. “She’s wearing N95 masks!” Maybe she’s in chemotherapy and her doctor gave her the mask. But you have to understand something about the person complaining, too. People are stressed and pissed, and want someone on to direct their frustrations at. They’re lacking coping skills, which I also understand. They are bitter they have to stay home, and much like a little kid, wants to tattle because it’s not fair that you’re “breaking the rules” in his eyes. Everyone just needs more empathy in my opinion.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Apr 6, 2020 15:22:29 GMT
This board really needs to decide what our collective response is. There's thread after thread about "I saw X doing Y" and everyone piles on to call them names and express soaring levels of outrage at their unbelievable behavior. "Don't they *get* it?!?!?" I think you've been here long enough to know that the likelihood of that happening is almost non-existent! There are always going to be the handslappers, the ones who come on to express their rage, call names, tell others that they are doing it wrong. It's in their nature, and no amount of discussing is ever going to change them. Then you've got the 'kumbaya' group that glosses over any and every little thing someone does is just fine. No one can do any wrong, it's all good. Again, that is just their nature and there is no changing them. Everyone plays a part here, so much so that I can usually predict who will be handslapping and who will be singing kumbaya. As for myself, I prefer the middle of the road. I was once told I was Switzerland, so it stands to reason that I like to stick to the middle and try to see both sides.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 15:23:58 GMT
No you were not wrong. Wrong if you had decided to go out just for the plant/compost but not wrong when you were out anyhow and picked them up inside the same store. I would have yelled back at him and asked if his purchase was essential or was he volunteering to come unblock my drain - well I wouldn't really but would have felt like doing so. People need to start minding their own business. DD1 took some shopping ( milk & some veg) that I had bought for an elderly friend of ours who lives 5 minutes away from us and some man told her that she should not be out walking the streets. She answered him, according to her, politely ( I'll take her word  ) and told him he shouldn't be out either as people over 70 have been told to stay indoors and she carried on walking! She told me he was in his 80's at least and she would have asked him if he had anyone to help so that he didn't have to go out if he hadn't been so rude to her. They are allowed to go out here for up to an hour each day for exercise but to stay 6ft apart from anyone else or to provide essentials for vulnerable people but with no contact. DD1 left the shopping at the front door and just knocked and waited at the end of the drive so she did nothing wrong.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 6, 2020 15:34:25 GMT
Sounds like someone just needs to learn to mind his own business. I'm quoting you, but not directing this TO you. It's to the board in general... to all of us. This board really needs to decide what our collective response is. There's thread after thread about "I saw X doing Y" and everyone piles on to call them names and express soaring levels of outrage at their unbelievable behavior. "Don't they *get* it?!?!?" There have been many comments about yard stuff and flowers not being essential. But, now we turn on our collective heel and decide, "No, what this X did doing Y was FINE. Fine, I tell you. People should mind their own business." We can't have it both ways. Cake and eat it too? Of course we can. I must have wrote and deleted a response to the online non-essential shopping thread two or three times. I had an ugly thread very early on when I mentioned the economic impact of the shutdown where more than a few people basically said I cared more about money than people dying. But that thread was all about justifying keeping their favorite scrapbooking/fabric store in business and surely their mental health related to their hobbies was important. And a whole bunch of introverts are just about breaking their arm patting themselves on the back about staying inside and vilifying people going outside - which in one case included a parent of a disabled child going for an "unnecessary" drive or god forbid having a beer with their neighbor sitting 6 feet apart outside. But them having a bunch of warehouse workers and drivers doing things for them out in public is a-okay. I think that many, many people want to justify their own behavior and demonize their neighbor and blame them for the problem with quite frankly much less of what's wrong and right being the potential spread of the virus and a whole hell of a lot more about what they want. ETA and just in case it was in clear from my response- at workingclassdog I have no issue with you picking up a few other items while out. The day my grocery store has plants outside (which they always do in the spring) I'm buying them to brighten up my deck and if anyone has an issue with it they can find a bridge to jump off.
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Post by tracyarts on Apr 6, 2020 15:34:34 GMT
Contentment is essential. If working with plants brings you contentment, then the supplies needed for it are essential.
You were already there, what possible damage was done by putting a few extra items in the cart? That's the same misguided line of thinking that says you shouldn't order non-essential items from Amazon, when the craft kit is quite possibly in the bin next to the thermometer.
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Post by snowsilver on Apr 6, 2020 15:37:28 GMT
I won't even judge the people picking up lumber, paint or other such things. Sitting at home for weeks on end with nothing to do but watch TV can lead to some pretty ugly domestic situations. I get the local police reports and I've already seen an uptick in domestics. I'd far rather see people with projects. As long as it is not against your state's lockdown order, I don't think it is any of my business.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 6, 2020 15:38:51 GMT
I don't think we can. (apologies if you were kidding and I am taking that too seriously) I'm partly kidding and partly serious, I suppose. I just get bemused by the amount of commentary on here by people who are quite sure "they" know how everyone else should behave and are more than ready to pass judgement on it. I fully agree that situation is complex and ever-changing. It IS hard to know what one's response should be. Which is why I mind my own business IRL and I might vent about it here so I’m not an ass misinterpreting something on the fly in real life. I definitely have neighbors who are not social distancing. I might grumble about it under my breath but I’m not shouting out my window about it. I DO think we should mind our own business and give people grace because we simply do not know why they are doing it. However as long as we aren’t posting pictures or naming real names I do think it’s ok to vent here. ( how’s that for clear as mud? ) The name calling, well that’s not called for and I’ve probably done it myself. I’ll take it under advisement to do better on that front.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 6, 2020 15:42:20 GMT
I say you were not wrong. You went to get something essential and found a couple of needed and pleasure items while there. So what? It is not someone else’s business what you were doing there. This pandemic is something that is taking a toll on people. I hate that people are turning on each other during thIs very difficult time. And if that was an employee yelling at you, I’d be talking to the manager. If the store policy is to not sell nonessentials, post it that way. And approach the customer to politely let them know, don’t yell it across the store! My guess was it was a shopper who is becoming more and more stressed over this. Maybe they are not able to work and are getting scared. They were wrong to yell at you, regardless.
Mothers letting their kids play on a closed playground with other kids? Common sense tells you not to do that, and if the mother were a friend of mine, I would point out how it could be dangerous to her family, but I wouldn’t yell at a stranger for it. Hopefully they will not have to learn the hard way by losing a child to this.
I am readying my house to get it on the market when the bulk of this is over. I was going to hire people to redo my back yard, including some of the plants. I had gotten bids before this hit. Now I will be doing this myself because I don’t want to bring anyone into or around my home during this. My dishwasher died and I’m hand washing rather than getting a replacement. I have a new oven, stovetop, and toilet sitting in the garage waiting to be installed. I will continue to wait to have others in my house, but I will be buying plants, bark, decorative stones, and whatever else I need to prepare the yards for the sale and I won’t feel guilty about it. Selling my house is essential and getting the yards in shape is part of that. I figure it is safer than bringing in other people right now.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 6, 2020 15:46:38 GMT
I don't think you were wrong, either- you were there, you saw a couple other items you needed / wanted and you got them as long as you were already there. You were staying the required distances away from people, you didn't stay in the store for half the day, and you didn't go to 6 different stores just to browse. I shop with a list, but if I see something as I walk down the aisle at the grocery store that I *forgot* to write on my list, am I not supposed to get it?
I think the definition of 'essential' can be somewhat fluid, depending on the situation, time and place.
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