Country Ham
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Post by Country Ham on Apr 13, 2020 15:49:44 GMT
Within that discussion there are a lot of disclaimers of "we are but not chains, just local". There is also a vibe that somehow it's not a good thing to order take out from chains.
Small town USA here. We do have a subway and a DQ as far as chains go. But they are staffed by locals. Family Dollar is a chain but also employed by locals. Why is there such an issue with getting food there? If no one got Subway the place would close down and that is a loss of rent for the local that owns the building, the teenagers would lose their job, and the phenomenal amount of charity it does during this time of crisis lost. They supplied over 800 lunch boxes to local students last week. Actually probably way more. (we don't have that many kids in our 3 schools in the county but they were supplying 3 boxes per kid for 3 days worth of lunches)
We are also a town with no delivery service of any kind, Even our restaurants have to run the food out to their parking lots because there were/are no take out windows.
People may dislike corporate America but I am willing to bet that nearly every chain restaurant and big box store started off as the Mom and Pop places we love today.
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Post by librarylady on Apr 13, 2020 15:53:34 GMT
I think the news has made a point to say small business will be hurt more than large companies. Many people are unaware that the owner of a franchise business is a small business owner.
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Post by Merge on Apr 13, 2020 16:02:13 GMT
Within that discussion there are a lot of disclaimers of "we are but not chains, just local". There is also a vibe that somehow it's not a good thing to order take out from chains.
Small town USA here. We do have a subway and a DQ as far as chains go. But they are staffed by locals. Family Dollar is a chain but also employed by locals. Why is there such an issue with getting food there? If no one got Subway the place would close down and that is a loss of rent for the local that owns the building, the teenagers would lose their job, and the phenomenal amount of charity it does during this time of crisis lost. They supplied over 800 lunch boxes to local students last week. Actually probably way more. (we don't have that many kids in our 3 schools in the county but they were supplying 3 boxes per kid for 3 days worth of lunches)
We are also a town with no delivery service of any kind, Even our restaurants have to run the food out to their parking lots because there were/are no take out windows.
People may dislike corporate America but I am willing to bet that nearly every chain restaurant and big box store started off as the Mom and Pop places we love today.
I hear you about many areas not having mom and pop places, or hardly any places. I spent a year teaching in a very small town in western Nebraska and it was a BIG deal when they got a Taco Bell. LOL For me, living in a large city, a few things come into play. One, I do have options, and when I do, I'm always going to choose the locally owned place. That's true whether we're in a pandemic or not. The reason we have small towns without mom and pop places is because the chains came in and could do things cheaper because they do them on a larger scale, so they put the mom and pop places out of business. Many of our small restaurants here are woman-owned, immigrant-owned, etc., so I also want to support that. Two, my observation here at least is that the corporate fast food type places are often not providing their workers with PPE or requiring that they wear it. The local places are working a lot harder to make sure their customers can see that they are taking all precautions. The day a few weeks ago when I stopped at a burger place for a soda and was served by an obviously ill drive-through worker with no mask or gloves was the last day I went to a big chain for anything. Three, I'm not worried about Subway going out of business. Subway and McDonald's and Saltgrass and PF Chang are going to be just fine when this is over. The locally owned place may not be. It may very well go under and a whole family lose its livelihood. So if I'm limiting myself to takeout once a week or so, I'm going to put my money where I think it will do the most good. If you live in a place where you don't have options, then obviously your choices will be different, and that's OK.
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 13, 2020 16:06:12 GMT
Small town USA here. We do have a subway and a DQ as far as chains go. But they are staffed by locals. Family Dollar is a chain but also employed by locals. Why is there such an issue with getting food there? I don't think there is any issue with supporting what is available in your neighborhood. We have only ordered take out once so far and it was from a local, family owned Thai restaurant because it is one of our favorites. Normally we would eat in. I have tons of choices within a two mile radius from McDonalds, Subway, Panda Express, Chipotle to family owned Thai, Vietnamese, pizza, etc. We can't support them all so are choosing to support our favorites. DH is from a restaurant family that owned franchises and one-off restaurants over the years so I do understand that a big name of the front door doesn't mean it isn't local/family owned.
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Post by tracyarts on Apr 13, 2020 16:16:03 GMT
Here, the small family owned restaurants always have higher quality and usually have lower prices than their chain counterparts.
I will always go with better quality for less money when that is an available choice.
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Post by playingcinderella on Apr 13, 2020 16:22:53 GMT
I am near a large city and we have a lot of restaurant choices. We typically prefer local places anyway - quality of food and service. Locally owned franchises are definitely at risk right now too but large corporate stores and restaurants should have the financial resources to survive a pandemic - the small, local shops are going to have to fight alot harder to survive. For me, I am focusing my dollars where I think it makes the most impact. Granted I buy my groceries at a large grocery chain and am doing my part to keep Amazon in business too.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 13, 2020 16:23:36 GMT
Yeah, I pick more on what I feel like eating than who owns what. I'm in a small town too. We usually had pizza once a week for the entire family before this started. On Fridays, I would sometimes get one item from a restaurant and have a drink and chips at home. We wanted to get food from two newer restaurants, but they immediately shut down when restrictions were put in place.
I don't know how it works with chain restaurants. Is the local McDonalds, Arbys, Burger King.... ran by corporate or independently owned? I don't care to investigate when all I want is something I don't have to prepare and cook.
I didn't do a lot of eating out before and I don't now.
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Post by ~summer~ on Apr 13, 2020 16:28:38 GMT
My town doesn’t even have chain restaurants- so we’ve always gone to the local family run Thai place, sushi place, Mexican place etc.
I’ve got nothing against chains and think people should get take out from wherever they want.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 13, 2020 16:32:49 GMT
Chains are in a better position to weather this. If the local Subway franchise goes belly up, another will replace it within months. Can’t say the same about the Ethiopian restaurant down the street.
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Post by leeny on Apr 13, 2020 16:41:36 GMT
I did visit a chain drive thru recently and they had no protections in place, even though our area has directives for all food service. So back to the local restaurants I go. I did write an email to their corporate, which is probably a black hole, to ask the franchise owner to look up the requirements to be open as an essential business and protect the employees and the public.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 16:49:25 GMT
So they can be righteous and sit on that high horse of theirs.
Pretty much all fast food are franchises. Some are larger than others. They do follow what the brand wants to offer because of franchising rules. Their employees are your next door neighbor's high school kid, the single mom, the recent college graduate that's working a job, any job until they can find something in their field.
I will get food from Burger King and the locally owned Mexican restaurant. I will get a frappe from McDonald's and a growler from the local brewery. I've ordered pizza from Papa John's and the small non-chain pizza joint. It's all about what you're in the mood for.
Fuck off with the self-righteous, high horse crap, and just get whatever it is you want, knowing that you're keeping local people employed.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 13, 2020 16:53:09 GMT
and just get whatever it is you want, knowing that you're keeping local people employed. this is my feeling, too.
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Post by lisae on Apr 13, 2020 17:19:04 GMT
I want to favor the mom and pop businesses because they often take a little more effort to get to. All our chains except the take out only Pizza Hut have drive throughs. They are all on main roads. Most of the locally owned places do not have drive throughs and some like the one in my part of the county are more remote. I think the drive through restaurants are naturally going to have more business as they are just convenient. Of course this means, we have to go inside to pick up our food at our local places but currently we take precautions and are not afraid of doing so.
I've always been a fan of supporting the local businesses because I grew up in such a business. When I had to go buy a new stove this weekend, I knew Lowes and Home Depot were open. But first I called my local appliance place and they were open and had a closeout on the floor that fit my needs. I went there, the clerk and I kept our distance and my stove will be delivered tomorrow. I think I got a better deal and was happier to help out a business that not only employees local people but is owned by a local family.
Every place we spend money helps someone but buying from a locally owned business helps even more people and it can make the difference on whether they weather this storm.
ETA: Lowes was actually founded about 20 miles from where I live so they are local in a way but such a big company will most likely weather this event. If they don't, we are all in trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 17:19:30 GMT
Why am I going to a chain? The “local” restaurants just don’t appeal to me. I have a huge list that I just deleted of why I don’t like them.
We don’t eat out a lot, especially during flu season, but our son really loves Taco Bell. He put down our new floor, he got to choose dinner. The manager of the Taco Bell was extremely thankful we came there.
The mick d place. My husband likes their chicken nuggets.
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Post by busy on Apr 13, 2020 17:22:47 GMT
Pretty much all fast food are franchises. Some are larger than others. They do follow what the brand wants to offer because of franchising rules. Their employees are your next door neighbor's high school kid, the single mom, the recent college graduate that's working a job, any job until they can find something in their field. I personally don't love most national chains because I just don't care for the food. BUT this is 100% correct. Most fast food restaurants are franchises and locally owned. Yes, they pay a fair bit to the corporate office for licensing, etc. but they are still employing local folks and have local ownership. If they go under, it's real people in your community who are hurt, just like for independent restaurants.
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Post by my2apps2 on Apr 13, 2020 17:45:42 GMT
I manage one of those national chain restaurants that is franchised. I promise you that corporate is not helping our owner at all. We have had to cut hours, cut the number of people working (resulting in longer wait times for customers which results in me and my staff being yelled at almost daily 🙄) and cut some of the products we sell just to try to keep the doors open and keep our workers employed.
While the mom and pop shops need the business, we do too. I try to give my business to any place that is deemed essential, national chain or not. Behind a lot of those big names are small business owners who are a part of my community.😊
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Post by katybee on Apr 13, 2020 17:50:46 GMT
Chains are in a better position to weather this. If the local Subway franchise goes belly up, another will replace it within months. Can’t say the same about the Ethiopian restaurant down the street. But the person who owns the Subway franchise that went belly up is a small business owner, too.
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 13, 2020 17:55:49 GMT
We're sticking with our normal favorites -- one is a local Thai place and the other is a regional chain. I'd like to continue to support the restaurants we have supported in the past. Plus, they both serve food that I wouldn't ever cook at home.
I'm another one with lots of great restaurants around. But I'm only one family that eats takeout once a week.
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 13, 2020 17:56:20 GMT
I would continue to support any business that is important to you. If it’s the local Subway, order take out from there. If it’s Pop’s Deli, order from there.
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Post by jenjie on Apr 13, 2020 17:57:09 GMT
We have ordered from a combination of places. Chains and small businesses. I tried two brand new to me local places in the past few weeks. Didn’t care for either of them. The pizza place I will give a second chance when all this is over bc 2 different friends raved about them AND bc they are donating a percentage of all orders to the local food bank. I didn’t know it but they told me when I was paying for my order.
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Post by jmd74 on Apr 13, 2020 17:59:28 GMT
We are still ordering from chains. Chains employ people that need their jobs.
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Post by Merge on Apr 13, 2020 18:05:59 GMT
So they can be righteous and sit on that high horse of theirs. Pretty much all fast food are franchises. Some are larger than others. They do follow what the brand wants to offer because of franchising rules. Their employees are your next door neighbor's high school kid, the single mom, the recent college graduate that's working a job, any job until they can find something in their field. I will get food from Burger King and the locally owned Mexican restaurant. I will get a frappe from McDonald's and a growler from the local brewery. I've ordered pizza from Papa John's and the small non-chain pizza joint. It's all about what you're in the mood for. Fuck off with the self-righteous, high horse crap, and just get whatever it is you want, knowing that you're keeping local people employed. How did "I prefer to eat here" become "and you're wrong if you eat someplace else" in your mind? I agree, do what you want. And maybe check the chip on your shoulder before you start spouting off about high horses.
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Post by busy on Apr 13, 2020 18:07:09 GMT
Chains are in a better position to weather this. If the local Subway franchise goes belly up, another will replace it within months. Can’t say the same about the Ethiopian restaurant down the street. But the owner of that Subway franchise, their family, their employees and their employees' families will have been hurt in the intervening months. They matter too. The sad fact of this is that a lot of business *are* going to fail. Support the ones that matter to you, regardless of if they're chains or independent, and hope that helps them survive.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Apr 13, 2020 18:08:24 GMT
I'm ordering what I want to eat. That is going to be a local place (or a regional chain) more often than it is a national chain because of our preferences. We aren't eating out a ton - cooking at home still seems the safest, but we need a break sometimes!
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Post by jubejubes on Apr 13, 2020 18:08:39 GMT
I purchased several pots of flowers from a local greenhouse this weekend and dropped them off at various homes of people that I know.
Greenhouses and farmers need to survive this pandemic as well. They were 5/$20. All can be replanted into flower gardens and can give enjoyment many times over.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 13, 2020 18:21:41 GMT
Chains are in a better position to weather this. If the local Subway franchise goes belly up, another will replace it within months. Can’t say the same about the Ethiopian restaurant down the street. But the person who owns the Subway franchise that went belly up is a small business owner, too. Yes they are - but the business model is different. And rather than having multiple franchises fail, the corporations behind those franchises are more likely to issue incentives and price breaks that won't be available to the independent restaurants. As I said, chains are in a better position to weather this. And, on a purely selfish note, if I do have to choose between franchises and independent restaurants, I will choose the independents.
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Post by gale w on Apr 13, 2020 21:14:33 GMT
We get food from chains. We trust them more when it comes to food allergies. We're mostly getting Wendy's and Little Caesar's so far. If we had a local Chipotle we'd get that too.
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Post by Country Ham on Apr 13, 2020 21:56:11 GMT
Chains are in a better position to weather this. If the local Subway franchise goes belly up, another will replace it within months. Can’t say the same about the Ethiopian restaurant down the street. But the person who owns the Subway franchise that went belly up is a small business owner, too. and ours almost went belly up last year until they finally sold it. Why someone put a Subway in this little town I have no idea and it's not even on the highway that cuts through our town (not like they stop and eat here anyhow). Various folks over the years have tried to get a franchise here for Burger King, MacDonald's, Taco Bell and no way. Too small, too little traffic.
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Post by Country Ham on Apr 13, 2020 22:00:19 GMT
Greenhouses and farmers need to survive this pandemic as well. They were 5/$20. All can be replanted into flower gardens and can give enjoyment many times over. I have a good friend whose husband has had s small nursery business for years. The green house is on their property etc. She said they are having their best year in over 10 years. They haven't raised their prices to take advantage of the situation. She figures folks are "stuck at home" and using yard work as a way to cope etc They are 35 miles from me though. I wonder what their policy is for shoppers. Might be a nice drive this week.
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Post by huskermom98 on Apr 14, 2020 1:24:15 GMT
Other than Chick-fil-A, Chipotle and the occasional Panera, we almost always eat at local places during normal times. We're still eating out once or twice a week and following the same pattern. The local places are so much better than chains.
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