breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Apr 17, 2020 18:39:27 GMT
Kindergartener school-at-home, the teachers are great. Stuff is uploaded by 8 am, in one app each teacher took a subject. It takes about 2 hours to get through it all.
middle schooler-good about 2 hours of work. high schooler- around 3 hours of work.
5th grader: insert swear words.
Stuff uploaded randomly. Teacher "forgot" to upload parts of things at least twice. Math is worksheets with (12 pages last week, 2 this week) with no lesson or instruction. DS was supposed to spend 15 minutes on one side of a page Monday and Tuesday, and another page Wednesday and Thursday. There is no way to spend 15 minutes on half a worksheet with 4 problems on it...
English: "optional" book club that meets on Zoom, teacher is reading another book out loud a chapter every few days, and scholastic articles to read sometimes with a question. DS is done in a few minutes...
Science: watch a daily You-Tube video on some random subject.
Then there is PE (via Zoom) once a week.
DS has ADHD and since stuff is sent to his i-pad (and I don't know about it) unless I rip the i-pad out of his hands he won't tell me he's gotten new work. DH is working from home and has to help me figure out DS stuff because it's on at least three different apps (prodigy, zearn, canvas, seesaw), and while the school has a checklist online, it doesn't include anything like what needs to be turned in or links to get to the assignments.
It is so frustrating!
So can I quit 5th grade?
I am rocking kindergarten though...
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Belle
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Post by Belle on Apr 17, 2020 18:41:43 GMT
I'm so sorry....distance learning doesn't start here until Monday, 4/20 and the kids have been out since March 12th. Can't wait....or can I???
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 17, 2020 18:46:23 GMT
The distance learning here didn’t start for weeks after my kids were out of school. I have five kids in public school (the youngest is at a private preschool), and they have 15 teachers between them (the oldest two are in middle and high school). Three of those teachers have done literally nothing—zilch, nada, not even an email. The other twelve are really, really uneven. Only three are doing anything live. The others are putting up worksheets and project assignments but that’s it (my twins’ math teacher’s weekly work packets take them under fifteen minutes).
I mean, I admit, I am not expecting much right now. No one was expecting it and people have a lot going on. But if there is any possibility of this continuing in the fall, I really hope that there is an actual program and plan, because this ain’t it.
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scrapngranny
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Post by scrapngranny on Apr 17, 2020 18:55:32 GMT
I think 5th grade is highly overrated. Pass your student on to summer vaca. Cocktails for the teacher!!
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Post by Rainy_Day_Woman on Apr 17, 2020 18:58:35 GMT
I feel ya. Our schools and teachers have never been very good about online communication or online resources. This hasn't changed since going online. I am holding my tongue because I know they are figuring it out, but it is not making it easy for any of us. Between the two kids, there are 11 different apps/sites/forums to check daily. Most of those could be done through classroom but for whatever reason, they have chosen not to. I'm going to miss things- it's just going to happen. Most of the assignments they have uploaded are just shitty blurry phone pictures of the paper outline. Am I wrong to assume most people have a scanner or can make a document to email or upload? And randomly, I got a phone call on a Sunday morning at 7:30 am from my daughter's social studies teacher to let me know that she hadn't handed in her assignment. Weird time but no worries- and then when I asked him when it was due, he told me it wasn't due for 6 more days. Why are you waking me up to let me know that she hasn't handed in something that isn't due yet? I wasn't the only one he called. Ok. That's all my venting for right now I know it's new and we are all figuring it out.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Apr 17, 2020 18:59:12 GMT
Distance learning hasn’t begun here yet. BC is so ass backwards.
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Post by birukitty on Apr 17, 2020 19:01:15 GMT
I feel your pain. At the end of 5th grade is when I decided to pull my ADHD son out of his private school that he'd attended since kindergarten and homeschool him. I'd been trying to work with them for a year to make just a couple of accommodations for him and they refused to work with me at all. Since they were a private school they could get away with whatever they wanted. But the biggest reason was he hated school with a passion. He was very stressed out, got stomach aches all of the time and was miserable. After doing a ton of research we decided to start with a curriculum I found online from a school called Oak Meadow. It turned out to be a complete success. You can check it out here oakmeadow.com DS's attitude about school changed completely and he began to love learning again. I ended up homeschooling him using this curriculum through grades 6-12 and when he finished he went to community college for two years (which was always the plan) and transferred to a University for his final 2 years. He did extremely well in college and now has a career he loves editing commercials. I don't know if you're in a place right now to consider doing something like this, but it never hurts to have the information. Of course I only had one child which made things a lot easier.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 17, 2020 19:04:19 GMT
Awww, fifth grade is the best grade of all the grades. I am sure that teacher is struggling meeting everyone's needs. Can you load a good book on the iPad and have him read to you every day while you are cooking or doing some other chore (if you aren't working from home)? Ask him questions about what you heard. Have him make predictions or draw conclusions. For math, I can't recommend KHAN Academy.com enough. Look at the skill he's supposed to be learning and look up the lesson online. I would have kids that would struggle with a concept and just having it reinforced by this guy almost always seemed to help.
I'd ask his teacher for help in getting things communicated to you in a different way since your son is not going to be helpful in that department.
I know most parents are having a tough time. I hope it gets better for you.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 17, 2020 19:07:27 GMT
What’s the grading policy? Do you actually have to do any of it?
The grading policy in DH’s district is pass/pass, if that’s the case I just wouldn’t mess with any of it.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 17, 2020 19:07:42 GMT
I'd like to drop out of 5th grade as well. My son is special needs and he can't do the majority of his work online. His teacher has been great, it's me that is failing.
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peaname
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Post by peaname on Apr 17, 2020 19:08:38 GMT
I need to go back to fifth grade. What's the capitol of Nebraska?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2020 19:10:25 GMT
You can drop out of 5th grade if I can drop out of 11th grade. Right now I am reading A Handmaid's Tale along with DS and trying to impart information about 2nd wave feminists. Super fun! "Go burn your bra, mom"
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 17, 2020 19:11:29 GMT
I need to go back to fifth grade. What's the capitol of Nebraska? Lincoln. (Lovingly called the Penis of the Plains)
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 17, 2020 20:23:48 GMT
My kid’s school is primarily using Seesaw. She has a main homeroom teacher, but starting this year the four various grade level teachers each handle separate subjects so the kids had been rotating through the assorted classroom areas for the different subjects. There are also specialists for PE, Art, Media/Library and Music for a total of eight different teachers. Some of the teachers have their own tab on Seesaw and some have been lumped under the homeroom teacher’s tab and that gets confusing, especially since there doesn’t seem to be a way to get the notifiers for the messages that have already been looked at to go away. There are certain assignments the kids must respond to daily so the teachers can mark them present, which I understand. But some of the teachers have response buttons corresponding to assignments that they have said they don’t expect the kids to respond to, and then those notifiers never go away making it always look like the kid skipped or missed something. It’s making things way more complicated than it needs to be. IMO it would be so much easier from a parent perspective if each teacher had their own individual tab. List in ONE PLACE each task the kids are supposed to do for each class. And for the love of all that’s holy, don’t put something up on there asking for a response if you don’t need or expect to see one! And don’t even get me started on all the freaking *choices* of things they can pick from to meet the daily requirements. Both me and my kid are getting weary of having to make so many decisions daily of what she can do. Just for her math class alone I think there something like 15-20 options for four different sections DAILY, plus a problem of the day. Life would be so much easier if they just said do pages XX-XX in your workbook and message me if you have questions, oy. ETA: All in all I think my kid’s teachers are doing a decent job. I think my frustration is more with the platform the district has chosen to use than anything. It’s just not all that user friendly for the kids especially when so many extra variables are thrown into the mix.
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Post by nellej on Apr 17, 2020 20:38:03 GMT
And randomly, I got a phone call on a Sunday morning at 7:30 am from my daughter's social studies teacher to let me know that she hadn't handed in her assignment. Weird time but no worries- and then when I asked him when it was due, he told me it wasn't due for 6 more days. Why are you waking me up to let me know that she hasn't handed in something that isn't due yet? I wasn't the only one he called. What a ridiculous time to phone!
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Post by Bobomommy on Apr 17, 2020 20:38:52 GMT
I’m a teacher. Most of us are doing the best we can. Some teachers have no internet service in the area they live. They have to hot spot from their phones. To use their computers they have to drive to a location that has free WiFi and sit in their car. Others are attempting to teach while taking care of small children, helping their own children with school work, and having a spouse also working from home. Then there’s me. I’m widowed and only have one child still at home. He’s 22 and at work all day. I have plenty of time to plan and teach online.
Consider all that first. Then take appropriate action. If you have a teacher who is providing NOTHING for your child, you need to let the principal know. If work is spotty, talk with the teacher. If they won’t respond, let the principal know. if you have tried repeatedly to contact the teacher with no response, you may also want to cc the principal on future emails so they can see what’s going on.
I know this is hard. I can’t imagine trying to do this job from home with little ones and other adults at home during the day. I also cannot imagine being a parent who is working from home and trying to be my child’s teacher. However, we can be thankful this happened at the end of the year, when most material had already been covered. It also will prepare us for the future if something like this happens again or if this lingers to the beginning of school next year. (whispering - Please don’t let it happen!)
Stay strong, ladies!
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Post by paigepea on Apr 17, 2020 20:43:58 GMT
Ugh. I’m so sorry. That’s annoying, especially since it’s going well with the other kids. I’d give him work to do. Have him read a book and answer questions. You can find generic chapter questions on line : ie: describe your fav character and why, compare / contrast 2 characters, what do you think will happen next, find 5 words you don’t know look up definition and use them in a sentence, describe the setting in 5 sentences, etc.
I’d also work on a structured paragraph - like your favourite city to visit or your fav 3 foods. Anything that requires structure.
I’d also use some good math apps.
Wishing the kids back to school soon.
My girls are pretty busy with school. Grade 9 dd is in class 8:20-2:20 every day. Little dd grade 6 is in class 9-11:30/12 and then has work that she completes until about 2. She’ll go back and finish homework in the evenings or on weekends. I currently have 1 dd in class upstairs and the other one came down to film her clarinet practice 😂. Thankfully we haven’t had senior band and junior band at the same time in our house.
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 17, 2020 21:32:22 GMT
I was just chatting with my friend who teaches 8th grade math in our district. She said the teachers had two weeks of training on setting up their material online, and started teaching classes on 4/7. She said it was going surprisingly well - she had been really worried that it would bomb. She's been able to progress in the course. Each class is for 90 minutes three times per week, and her students have been doing great.
We live in a great district. She also said that the school delivered chrome books to any student who didn't have access to a computer, and that Comcast has provided free internet service to any student who needs it.
My son is in college, so he was used to online courses. His music classes have managed to adapt. Not perfect, but he's graduating in a couple weeks.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 17, 2020 22:12:32 GMT
Lincoln. (Lovingly called the Penis of the Plains) Seriously referred to that way? Why? When you are driving in from the interstate (on a very long and somewhat quiet interstate), you see off in the far distance a gold penis shaped building. Most of the buildings in Lincoln are not more than three stories high, so this one really sticks out... I kid, I kid. Some have four stories.
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Post by MalleyCat on Apr 17, 2020 23:16:20 GMT
I hear ya! I wanna quit the 2nd grade! My daughter and I both have ADHD. It’s supposed to be 1.5-2 hours per day but is taking us several hours per day! Reason it takes so long is that every assignment is on a new different website to try and figure out. I was about to lose my shit today trying to do a video on “Flipgrid”. Apparently I need to download new software to my laptop for it to work. Software won’t download. I don’t mind the classwork, I do mind all the different sites that we need to figure out.!🥴
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Post by threegirls on Apr 17, 2020 23:22:44 GMT
I have a daughter in 5th grade and a daughter in 7th grade. They both attend a private school for dyslexics. Both (as are many of the kids at their school) are also ADHD. I was scared to death when they started online school but it has really turned out to be great. The administrators and teachers have worked so hard to make a meaningful and successful online school which is like performing a miracle for their students.
They use google classrooms and zoom. They have pre-recorded video lessons that are made by each teacher along with private, one-on-one scheduled time with their teacher via zoom and then a "homeroom" of sorts with their whole class once a day. It only took them one week to prepare and I am so impressed with what they have done. I think it's a big benefit of a small school with small classes. Parents receive a weekly update video from the executive director along with many emails from teachers and other administrators. I have had a zoom meeting for an IEP.
My oldest is a senior at a Catholic high school. I'm impressed with her school too. They did not miss one single day of instruction! They were in school on a Friday and on Monday they went straight to online. To update parents we get a daily email from the principle. Her school is relatively small.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 18, 2020 1:37:46 GMT
Most of the assignments they have uploaded are just shitty blurry phone pictures of the paper outline. Am I wrong to assume most people have a scanner or can make a document to email or upload? I can scan documents. Haven't been able to save as documents, so when I put them on 'paper' they might be a bit wonky and I can attach them to email. New phone, finally was able to male call. Every time I touch the phone it wants me to shut down for updates, which blocked me from successfully answering when my doctor called for my visit. I now know to swipe up at all times to answer or anything else I need to do. Can you tell, my first smart phone.
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Post by ExpatBackHome on Apr 18, 2020 3:15:59 GMT
My kid’s school is primarily using Seesaw. She has a main homeroom teacher, but starting this year the four various grade level teachers each handle separate subjects so the kids had been rotating through the assorted classroom areas for the different subjects. There are also specialists for PE, Art, Media/Library and Music for a total of eight different teachers. Some of the teachers have their own tab on Seesaw and some have been lumped under the homeroom teacher’s tab and that gets confusing, especially since there doesn’t seem to be a way to get the notifiers for the messages that have already been looked at to go away. There are certain assignments the kids must respond to daily so the teachers can mark them present, which I understand. But some of the teachers have response buttons corresponding to assignments that they have said they don’t expect the kids to respond to, and then those notifiers never go away making it always look like the kid skipped or missed something. It’s making things way more complicated than it needs to be. IMO it would be so much easier from a parent perspective if each teacher had their own individual tab. List in ONE PLACE each task the kids are supposed to do for each class. And for the love of all that’s holy, don’t put something up on there asking for a response if you don’t need or expect to see one! And don’t even get me started on all the freaking *choices* of things they can pick from to meet the daily requirements. Both me and my kid are getting weary of having to make so many decisions daily of what she can do. Just for her math class alone I think there something like 15-20 options for four different sections DAILY, plus a problem of the day. Life would be so much easier if they just said do pages XX-XX in your workbook and message me if you have questions, oy. ETA: All in all I think my kid’s teachers are doing a decent job. I think my frustration is more with the platform the district has chosen to use than anything. It’s just not all that user friendly for the kids especially when so many extra variables are thrown into the mix. We use seesaw too. Yesterday we cleaned it up by responding “already completed” or “no response needed” to get it out of the pending list.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 18, 2020 3:49:34 GMT
We use seesaw too. Yesterday we cleaned it up by responding “already completed” or “no response needed” to get it out of the pending list. Thanks, we might try that if they’re still showing there next week. I’m sure it’s just a learning curve all the way around. One of the specials teachers had all of the options the kid could choose from with those respond buttons on each one, the kid only had to do one of the four choices for the week. After that the rest of the options just sit there cluttering things up. I’m afraid that responding (even if only to say she picked something else) will mean that teacher is going to get 500 notices to weed through, and that’s just for one grade of kids in a pre-k through 5th elementary school. Oy. There has to be a better way.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Apr 18, 2020 4:05:45 GMT
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Post by grammadee on Apr 18, 2020 4:17:49 GMT
Hugs to all you parents and kids getting used to distance learning and to the teachers trying to keep up with the various technologies and keep in meaningful contact with all the kids. @breetheflea is there any way you can have the teacher include you in the loop about the 5th grade assignments? Dgs's school has an option for anyone in the family to log in to pick up the assignments.
My 7 year old ADHD dgs has been here and doing SeeSaw on line since April 1st. The teacher is wonderful. The assignments for grade one include options for how to respond--directly on the ipad with typing or pencil tool, recorded audio or video, or done on paper then photographed and submitted. The completed assignments disappear from the pending list, and all pending assignments disappear at the end of the weekend so the new ones will appear.
Keeping those busy little fingers off the keys and buttons on the screen is a challenge, but we have been able to meet all learning goals each week if not all the assignments. His best reading performance was when he built a fort behind the couch in the basement, took a book and a flashlight and my phone in there, and read for the teacher via a video recording.
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Post by SAHM wannabe on Apr 18, 2020 6:07:39 GMT
5th grade teacher here. I appreciate how challenging this is for parents. I'm a single parent with high school children at home, so I get it. It's hard!
Please try to have some grace for teachers, as we should have for parents. Many of us are scrambling to find appropriate online lessons. Some are trying to navigate technology in classes where it might not have been the norm. We are trying to get devices to students who don't have them at home. I've worked with our local cable company trying to find affordable wi-if plans for some families who didn't already have access. There are parents who want more work for their kids while others are struggling to get their kids online.
We are all concerned about our students and their well-being. Do the families have food? Did the parents lose their jobs? Are the students home alone because parents are essential workers? Are the 5th grade students the caretakers for their younger siblings because parents are working? The list goes on and on and on. This is new and hard and exhausting for everyone.
As the end of the school year approaches, 5th grade teachers have new things to consider. We won't be able to have our special 5th grade promotions, and middle school preparations, and our traditional 5th grade field trips, and our yearbook signing party, and and and ...
It might appear that your child's 5th grade, any grade, teacher isn't working at an acceptable level of competence. Or it could be that your child's teacher has a whole range of school-related concerns that are completely unknown to you.
Grace and perspective. We will get through this.
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Post by shutterbug2sue on Apr 18, 2020 12:54:09 GMT
My third grader has been getting consistent information from her teacher and had a Zoom meetings already - that were actually useful.
My 7th grader had his first Zoom meeting and it was only set up by one teacher but then had three of his teachers on it. The teachers wanted to know how much time they spent on things (way less than they think) and then they did a TikTok dance? And they were trying to feel the kids out on things but all through the year they were experts and us parents could not question anything. OMG, I was embarrassed for their lack of professionalism.
This was our first week, but you can tell who’s trying and who’s just coasting. My kids need the work to offset the lack of structure right now, but the balance of making it useful and not just busy work is important. I know the teachers know that too and hopefully are in adjustment mode yet.
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Post by shutterbug2sue on Apr 18, 2020 12:57:11 GMT
Most of the assignments they have uploaded are just shitty blurry phone pictures of the paper outline. Am I wrong to assume most people have a scanner or can make a document to email or upload? I can scan documents. Haven't been able to save as documents, so when I put them on 'paper' they might be a bit wonky and I can attach them to email. New phone, finally was able to male call. Every time I touch the phone it wants me to shut down for updates, which blocked me from successfully answering when my doctor called for my visit. I now know to swipe up at all times to answer or anything else I need to do. Can you tell, my first smart phone. Smart phones have scan apps. Cam Scanner is good.
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