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Post by ellaknits on Apr 21, 2020 13:38:44 GMT
They are offering this drive through in my town. I don't have any symptoms, but traveled through Asia in December and then domestic flights in Jan and Feb. I'd like to know if I've been exposed and might potentially be immune.
I don't know why I'm vacillating. Guess I'm wondering if it's useful information as it wouldn't change my behavior now (sheltering in place and working from home).
What do you guys think?
Update: Okay, so the tests go to University of Washington to be processed and read, I'll have the results in about 48 hours, and my insurance paid for it. Good experience, they were very efficient and I'm glad I did it.
Like several of you have wisely said, I won't change my behavior based on the results, I'm just curious at this point.
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Post by annaintx on Apr 21, 2020 13:39:42 GMT
I would, only because if I was one of the asymptomatic ones, and I have "recovered" from it, I could donate plasma.
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Post by iluvpink on Apr 21, 2020 13:44:07 GMT
I don't know. Can you be totally asymptomatic? Because I've felt 100% since this has begun. However I did travel to Mexico just before/at the beginning of social isolating (march 9-15) and we did go through Chicago so I suppose I could possibly been exposed and not known. Since I've only been to the grocery store, pet supply store and a drive up trip to the vet. DD hasn't been anywhere and dh the same as me.
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Post by ellaknits on Apr 21, 2020 13:46:16 GMT
I would, only because if I was one of the asymptomatic ones, and I have "recovered" from it, I could donate plasma. Oh, that's a good reason to do it, yep.
iluvpink , yes, I think I could be totally asymptomatic if I was exposed. Husband was sick when we returned from Korea with the COVID symptoms (but it could have been anything), but that was January and we didn't really connect it. It went away, then a week later came back. Then he was fine. I never had even a sniffle, except for my seasonal allergies. I've felt great so far.
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Post by yodutchess on Apr 21, 2020 13:57:44 GMT
I would, if the tests were plentiful. I was sick with something upper respiratory in February. It was the sickest I have ever been. It hung on for two weeks, and I also an atypical body rash for two days. I had chicken pox as a child. It did not look like scarlet fever. When I read some doctors are noting dermatology changes with COVID 19, I wonder now if I had a mild form. I did have a flu shot last October.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 21, 2020 13:59:47 GMT
I’ve read that people who had recovered from this virus are showing up positive again after they had thought they were better. Is it a second case of it or has the original infecting virus gone through a reemergence and infecting you again? I wouldn’t be relying on a test yet at this point. I’d prefer to wait until more is known about this virus. It seems to keep doing unexpected things.
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Post by Hayjaker on Apr 21, 2020 13:59:48 GMT
YES! I was very sick at the end of February and even experienced shortness of breath which scared me completely. I would really like to know if it was COVID. Besides, more information, more data, can lead to more precise decision making. For me personally, and for my community. I really believe that Because we know so little about this virus that widespread safety measures are necessary. It is with more precise data that we can be more precise with decision-making!
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Post by ellaknits on Apr 21, 2020 14:01:31 GMT
This group is purposely offering tests to track exposure and build a model for the state - so the tests are available. Hopefully they are also accurate.
I think I will do it. I presume this will be a blood test. I'll head over there this afternoon and see what I can find out.
Thanks!
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Post by Just T on Apr 21, 2020 14:04:11 GMT
I would pay for one. I was sick in February after I got home from Vegas. Every time I thought I was feeling better, I'd start feeling awful again. I had times of being short of breath for weeks, especially when I was out in the cold. A couple of days, I didn't even work in my office, which is on the second floor of our building, because I was so short of breath walking up and down the stairs. I also was extremely tired for weeks after I was technically "better." I would come home from work and take a nap, which is not like me at all. (And I have a desk job, so it's not like I'm physically active).
I really do wonder if I had COVID19, and I would feel a whole lot better going out into the world if I knew I already had it.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 21, 2020 14:04:37 GMT
I can’t remember where I read this last week - maybe the NY Times - but there’s supposed to be some serious inconsistencies among the various antibody tests. The FDA dropped the requirement to approve the tests, so several companies rushed out new tests. I would hope that our states/municipalities would be doing due diligence before purchasing, but it would be hard for a Joe Citizen to confirm that.
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Post by smartypants71 on Apr 21, 2020 14:05:40 GMT
I suppose if i had experienced symptoms in the past, I probably would. As long as I could pay it out of my HSA account LOL!
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Post by Just T on Apr 21, 2020 14:06:28 GMT
I also an atypical body rash for two days. Interesting! I also had a rash on my neck/upper back/shoulder. At first I wondered if I was getting shingles, but then it sort of went away. Every once in a while, it flares up again for a day. Is a rash a symptom of COVID19? I hadn't heard that!
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Post by ellaknits on Apr 21, 2020 14:07:43 GMT
I can’t remember where I read this last week - maybe the NY Times - but there’s supposed to be some serious inconsistencies among the various antibody tests. The FDA dropped the requirement to approve the tests, so several companies rushed out new tests. I would hope that our states/municipalities would be doing due diligence before purchasing, but it would be hard for a Joe Citizen to confirm that. Yeah, that might be my only real hesitation. I hope the tests are good. I'll ask and report back what they tell me.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 21, 2020 14:07:44 GMT
Yes, because I’m in healthcare
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 21, 2020 14:13:45 GMT
I can’t remember where I read this last week - maybe the NY Times - but there’s supposed to be some serious inconsistencies among the various antibody tests. The FDA dropped the requirement to approve the tests, so several companies rushed out new tests. I would hope that our states/municipalities would be doing due diligence before purchasing, but it would be hard for a Joe Citizen to confirm that. Yeah, that might be my only real hesitation. I hope the tests are good. I'll ask and report back what they tell me. Huh. Here’s another NYT article from just yesterday.
In case you don’t have NYT access, I just googled “COVID antibody test, accuracy,” and there were a lot of hits. It seems this is a looming problem. Good luck!
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Post by ellaknits on Apr 21, 2020 14:21:30 GMT
Yeah, that might be my only real hesitation. I hope the tests are good. I'll ask and report back what they tell me. Huh. Here’s another NYT article from just yesterday.
In case you don’t have NYT access, I just googled “COVID antibody test, accuracy,” and there were a lot of hits. It seems this is a looming problem. Good luck! Thank you for making me think critically about this - here's the article for my state's testing and the controversy: Crush the Curve Idaho
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So it's less about test accuracy and more about what positive results might actually mean for the person? I think I'd like to know, as a curiosity perhaps. And since this won't reduce test availability to actual sick people, there's no reason to not do it, but also know that a positive doesn't necessarily mean anything. Since I am also participating in the Stanford COVID study, maybe it would be useful info for later.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 14:29:12 GMT
No, not until they are properly tested and results are proved to be right.. From the WHO Speaking in Geneva, the World Health Organization's (WHO) Dr Maria van Kerkhove cast doubt on the benefit of rapid serology tests due to a lack of evidence around coronavirus immunity.
She said: "There are a lot of countries that are suggesting using rapid diagnostic serological tests to be able to capture what they think will be a measure of immunity.
"Right now, we have no evidence that the use of a serological test can show that an individual has immunity or is protected from reinfection."
She added: "These antibody tests will be able to measure that level of seroprevalence - that level of antibodies but that does not mean that somebody with antibodies means that they are immune."
Dr van Kerkhove said it was "a good thing" that so many tests are being developed, but she added: "We need to ensure that they are validated so that we know what they say they attempt to measure they are actually measuring."
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Post by ellaknits on Apr 21, 2020 14:29:40 GMT
I think I am going to ask them about the equipment they are using and their process; I should be able to research it in the peer reviewed literature when I get home and see what the likely accuracy is, or if I've just subjected myself to the equivalent of a medical mood ring. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 21, 2020 14:29:50 GMT
No
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 21, 2020 14:31:52 GMT
^You’re welcome! If you have the money to spare, and you’re really curious, you could go for it with eyes wide open, knowing the caveats and the uncertainty.
Yesterday they started antibody-testing 3000 people per day in the NYC area, to lay groundwork for containment decisions.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 21, 2020 14:32:22 GMT
DH would do it in a heartbeat. He came down with something in February and he had a high fever and a horrific cough for close to a week. It was the sickest he’d been in probably 25 years. At the time no one was talking about Coronavirus. His bowling buddy’s wife had just come home from a girl’s trip to the Caribbean the weekend before, he bowled with that guy on Wednesday and by Friday he was feeling like crap. It took him out for that whole next week through that following Monday.
DD(9) also had something at that same time where she had a high fever (102.9F off and on for several days running) and a cough similar to what she had the previous Christmas. The e-visit doctor said it was flu but she was never actually tested. Aside from the fever and cough she didn’t seem sick at all, no fatigue, chills, aches, etc.
DH thinks it probably was Covid, but until/unless he did the antibody test he won’t really know.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 21, 2020 14:35:24 GMT
Yes. We would get one for all 4 of us.
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Post by ellaknits on Apr 21, 2020 14:41:54 GMT
No, not until they are properly tested and results are proved to be right.. From the WHO Speaking in Geneva, the World Health Organization's (WHO) Dr Maria van Kerkhove cast doubt on the benefit of rapid serology tests due to a lack of evidence around coronavirus immunity.
She said: "There are a lot of countries that are suggesting using rapid diagnostic serological tests to be able to capture what they think will be a measure of immunity.
"Right now, we have no evidence that the use of a serological test can show that an individual has immunity or is protected from reinfection."
She added: "These antibody tests will be able to measure that level of seroprevalence - that level of antibodies but that does not mean that somebody with antibodies means that they are immune."
Dr van Kerkhove said it was "a good thing" that so many tests are being developed, but she added: "We need to ensure that they are validated so that we know what they say they attempt to measure they are actually measuring."
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Good points; I think she's saying here is what I mentioned above - that positive results don't necessarily equate to immunity. So all you'll know if you have antibodies is that you were exposed - it doesn't mean you can't get sick.
I guess I just want to know if I was exposed.
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Post by LeaP on Apr 21, 2020 14:51:37 GMT
Depends. If the test is reliable yes, but if the test has a large percentage of error then no. Here in Los Angeles there were a couple of bogus test sites so caveat emptor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 14:51:38 GMT
No, not until they are properly tested and results are proved to be right.. From the WHO Speaking in Geneva, the World Health Organization's (WHO) Dr Maria van Kerkhove cast doubt on the benefit of rapid serology tests due to a lack of evidence around coronavirus immunity.
She said: "There are a lot of countries that are suggesting using rapid diagnostic serological tests to be able to capture what they think will be a measure of immunity.
"Right now, we have no evidence that the use of a serological test can show that an individual has immunity or is protected from reinfection."
She added: "These antibody tests will be able to measure that level of seroprevalence - that level of antibodies but that does not mean that somebody with antibodies means that they are immune."
Dr van Kerkhove said it was "a good thing" that so many tests are being developed, but she added: "We need to ensure that they are validated so that we know what they say they attempt to measure they are actually measuring."
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Good points; I think she's saying here is what I mentioned above - that positive results don't necessarily equate to immunity. So all you'll know if you have antibodies is that you were exposed - it doesn't mean you can't get sick.
I guess I just want to know if I was exposed.
I read somewhere else, can't find it at the moment that even those tests are not reliable either, as yet. What would be the point in having one though if the results are not reliable. If an unproven testing kit showed that you had antibodies, how would that help in any way .....just so that you could maybe tell yourself that you may have had it? That info is of no use to anyone if the test have no proven results. You're not safe to go back to work or safe from catching it from anyone else.
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Post by peano on Apr 21, 2020 14:59:21 GMT
Not now. There's no reliable and valid test available right now. Once there is, my PCP wants me to get one.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Apr 21, 2020 14:59:33 GMT
I also an atypical body rash for two days. Interesting! I also had a rash on my neck/upper back/shoulder. At first I wondered if I was getting shingles, but then it sort of went away. Every once in a while, it flares up again for a day. Is a rash a symptom of COVID19? I hadn't heard that! My friend had a terrible cough, fever, rash in the end of February and early March. She tested negative for everything so they chalked it up to allergies. I told her it may be COVID, but she was insistent it wasn’t be it wasn’t a dry cough. Now today she thinks she had it. I got mildly sick a few days later, so did my family, but nothing serious. I really really want to know who’s had it.
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Post by paigepea on Apr 21, 2020 15:05:23 GMT
I would if it was worthwhile.
Our health minister said they believe the antibodies only last a couple of months. That plus the issue that the virus continues to change will make the presence of antibodies not as much of a great thing as we would thing. It’s like having antibodies for a common cold, yet we keep getting colds because the cold virus keeps changing / so many strains.
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Post by Fairlyoddparent on Apr 21, 2020 15:06:56 GMT
Absolutely!
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