zella
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Post by zella on Apr 29, 2020 18:31:04 GMT
I read that when people went in to clean the Diamond Princess, they found active virus on surfaces after 17 days. That scares the bejesus out of me! They found RNA, not active, live virus on the Princess at 17 days. Ah, important difference. Thank you for that. I hadn't heard that. |
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Post by maryland on Apr 29, 2020 18:37:47 GMT
I bet food samples, like Costco, will stop.
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Post by inkedup on Apr 29, 2020 18:46:12 GMT
They found RNA, not active, live virus on the Princess at 17 days. Ah, important difference. Thank you for that. I hadn't heard that. It was a misleading headline, for sure. I felt great relief when I read a sound explanation of the fact it was that traces of RNA and not live virus. |
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zella
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Post by zella on Apr 29, 2020 19:45:11 GMT
I'll admit that we will now be stocking hand sanitizer, sanitizing wipes and disinfectant spray. Before, I would throw a two pack of wipes in my cart whenever they went on sale before flu season. Just to have sitting out for frequent use if one of us felt we were coming down with something. Going forward, we will have these things on hand. The movie theaters may very well close. I know that concessions are where they profit, not the actual movie ticket sales, and how is that going to work if you are wearing a mask? However, I would say that the ones around us are safe from closure. Locally, few will consider wearing a mask there and they aren't going to bat an eye at distance between seats either. The cruise ships ruling out preexisting conditions? I can't see that working well for them. Aren't they rather dependent on older passengers with expendable income? If older passengers have good insurance that comes with an expendable income lifestyle, they are likely on some prescription or another. I see pretty much that whole market being disqualified. My Vegas thoughts? I think their core customers may be more than ready to head back. I'm not sure about their buffet customers, but again looking at my local area where many are regulars at casinos, these are not people who are concerned about personal or group safety. These are people who demand freedom to be entertained. I am more surprised every day by how non-community minded my community actually is. I need to remember that the only reason for me to be courteous to them is if it makes me personally feel better. It's not something that goes both ways. We are definitely not all in this together. Any slight inconvenience for them is just way too much to expect. These are just not my tribe. I have a tribe out there, they just don't live near me. I'm sorry you're rather isolated from people like you. I was worried about that moving to Tampa, but there are surprisingly a lot of people more like me than I expected, and from what I hear (since I don't go out) people are pretty good here about abiding by the social distancing rules. Since I wrote my post, AMC has said it will no longer show any Universal films; that strikes me as a "cutting off their nose" move. Apparently Universal is considering releasing its films simultaneously to theaters and home streaming services. Here's an interesting article about that, and the writer does believe theaters as we know them are going to die out: AMCA VP of Royal Caribbean says there will NOT be a requirement for a doctor's note despite there having been visual evidence of such letters. She did say that things are changing quickly and are fluid (read: who knows what the regulations may be in a month or two). I agree there are many people who would be more than happy to return to Vegas (the same people protesting stay at home orders and having giant house parties, IMO). However another thing that factors in here is that many people have been furloughed or have lost their jobs. There just isn't going to be as much disposable income in our country (or many others) for a while. I believe many sensible people will be looking at saving, not spending, over the coming year or two. I don't know that there will be enough people ready to use that income, and wanting to go to somewhere like Vegas, for it to look anything like it did this time last year. Remember too that Vegas relies heavily on convention income. Conventions have been nixed so far this year, and event planners are either postponing them until next year, or finding other ways to operate. I hope I'm wrong. It's not that I want Vegas to fail, but I do think they have a lot going against them and the question will be can they survive until the number of visitors approaches pre-Covid numbers? I think some businesses will, and a lot won't. This is true of many places in the US and around the world where the economy is heavily based on one type of income stream, usually tourism. |
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Post by pyccku on Apr 29, 2020 20:56:01 GMT
We will return to normal. This is a virus that while bad, is not that deadly. Yes, it will kill a lot of people - but in the end, it looks like most people will not die. It will work its way through the population and we will come up with treatments (or not) and a vaccine (or not). In the end, a lot of people will die but most won't. It will become a seasonal illness that people get, some will die (like the flu) but most will just put it out of their heads, just like they do the flu.
But we will see changes in the short term - distancing, masks, etc. Right now, we don't want to overwhelm hospitals with everyone at once. But once we get to the point where a decent percentage of people have had it already, it won't be seen as a big enough threat to change everything.
The economic pain will be here for a few years, I think. But we will also see some good things come out of it - so many jobs where people have been told "no, you can't do that remotely!" because the person in charge is a micromanager, etc. So maybe more remote work will become a thing. Maybe this will be the push to improve the healthcare system. Maybe it will be a push to start opening up factories, or making the ones we have safer?
I just don't see this changing everything forever. No more live sporting events? Concerts? Weddings, graduations, etc. - forever? Not a chance.
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Post by artsyk on Apr 29, 2020 21:08:31 GMT
I honestly would be surprised if it DIDN'T affect us. It should - this thing is crazy. I know it has changed my husband and my way of life as far as driving, etc. DH hasn't left our town except to go to a neighboring town to donate blood in two months.
We used to go every weekend (sometimes twice) to a town 90 miles away to do grocery shopping, movies, etc. We live in a very small town with limited options.
It has been nice to slow down as we are used to going, going, going.
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Post by theroadlesstraveledp on Apr 30, 2020 1:53:31 GMT
I think in some ways it will. For how long? I don't know. They just extended our order to 6/19  I'm hoping that remote work like pyccku mentioned will be something that will happen. |
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Post by gar on Apr 30, 2020 9:08:42 GMT
It will become a seasonal illness that people get, some will die (like the flu) but most will just put it out of their heads, just like they do the flu. I hope you're right - It's sometimes hard in the middle of things like this, to look beyond it but I 'look forward' to those days ahead. |
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