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Post by needmysanity on Apr 28, 2020 20:26:55 GMT
I'm really struggling right now. I am still working and that really is a blessing but every day is stressful and dealing with stressed staff isn't helping my sanity one bit. DH and DS have done great at home until this past week. They are both struggling now so I go from stressful work environment to stressful home...there is no break for me.
It doesn't help that the Governor of California just laid out his opening up plan and it doesn't look like we will fully open for months.
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Post by bethany102399 on Apr 28, 2020 20:31:43 GMT
Really? What part of that statement doesn't make sense? they do nothing to back that point up, only move on to the next convenient point that they also don't prove.
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 28, 2020 20:38:25 GMT
Really? What part of that statement doesn't make sense? they do nothing to back that point up, only move on to the next convenient point that they also don't prove. That article is up there with the Bill Gates crap, conjecture wise and backing up of assertions. And I’ve read more than a few lately. That’s 3 minutes I’ll never get back.
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Post by gar on Apr 28, 2020 20:52:57 GMT
How can it be a political hoax?? Jeez...what about the rest of the world...😳🙄
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 28, 2020 20:54:04 GMT
I just looked up the Washington Times, I’d never heard of it.
It’s about as interesting as I thought it might be. 😏
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Post by monklady123 on Apr 28, 2020 20:55:57 GMT
How can it be a political hoax?? Jeez...what about the rest of the world...😳🙄 Consider the source -- The Washington Times -- and just ignore it. The Times is a wacky conservative publication often confused (by non-locals) with The Washington Post.
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Post by gar on Apr 28, 2020 20:59:32 GMT
How can it be a political hoax?? Jeez...what about the rest of the world...😳🙄 Consider the source -- The Washington Times -- and just ignore it. The Times is a wacky conservative publication often confused (by non-locals) with The Washington Post. Ah ok, thank you 🙂 Anyone who believes that is a fool.
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Post by gar on Apr 28, 2020 20:59:56 GMT
How can it be a political hoax?? Jeez...what about the rest of the world...😳🙄 Consider the source -- The Washington Times -- and just ignore it. The Times is a wacky conservative publication often confused (by non-locals) with The Washington Post. Ah ok, thank you 🙂 Anyone who believes that is a fool.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Apr 28, 2020 21:07:22 GMT
I had to stop listening/checking in on the news so often. I can only control what I can control. Making a list of the things I CAN do make the overwhelm better This is my attitude. Stay home, don’t socialize, wear a mask and follow precautions at the grocery store or order, wipe everything down (if you feel like taking an extra step). I feel like at that point, I’ve done everything in my control to stay safe and the rest isn’t up to me, so why dwell on it.
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Post by *Shannon on Apr 28, 2020 21:11:05 GMT
RE Drs. Erickson & Messhi... "In a rare statement late today, the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine declared they “emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health. Full article here. As far as The Washington Times goes... "Although the Washington Times has a very strong right editorial bias, they report straight news with a much lower bias. Therefore, we rate them Right-Center biased overall. We also rate them Questionable and factually mixed due to poor sourcing, holding editorial positions that are contrary to scientific consensus, and numerous failed fact checks." Read more here.
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Post by shevy on Apr 28, 2020 21:14:12 GMT
Is anyone else just overwhelmed right now? There is so much conflicting news, depending on what and who you listen to. Even top scientists don't agree on everything right now. New symptoms are coming out all the time, there are new ways that it's affecting kids, and states right next to each other are doing different things… so how does that work? I know my personal life is overwhelming right now, so that adds to it, but I am just so overwhelmed with all of the different responses and the different things everyone is saying. Anyone else? You do the very best that you can at the time you are doing it and that's all that you can ask of yourself. I stopped watching national pressers because it just made me more anxious. I talked with DH about what my anxiety and depression was doing to me and he (thankfully) told me I needed to do what made me feel better and not to worry about the rest. You and I cannot control everyone, we do the best we can and go with it. Take a breath and pause. And if you need to talk, please peamail me and I will be glad to listen.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 28, 2020 21:17:08 GMT
I am not. In fact I am so unmotivated that I am getting a little panicky about things reopening and life resuming. I noticed today traffic is increasing and I was really happy with the empty streets. The warm weather has everyone spilling out of their houses.
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Post by *Shannon on Apr 28, 2020 21:21:19 GMT
I've started and stopped writing three times... I don't know how I feel.
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Post by scrapmaven on Apr 28, 2020 22:26:24 GMT
peabay , I'm so sorry that you're inundated w/loss of your loved ones. Overwhelmed is probably the minimum of what you're feeling right now. Right now it's important to allow others to give you lots of support. It's difficult because you can't be hugged in person, but I can certainly give you a cyber ((((HUG))) and let you know that I care about you and will be here to listen. Zee , thank you for all that are you doing to save other people. I've always respected you, because you are a nurse, but this just takes it beyond. Thank you so much. I don't feel heroic and am not posting for accolades--i hope I don't appear that way--but it is good to read different viewpoints here and I just want to share mine. You are so kind. I have been so happy to see how kind the ICU nurses I've been working with have treated these patients. Compassion and competence both. So impressed with these nurses who aren't letting fatigue or anxiety equal less care. I have never felt that you are anything but genuine. You post very authentically and not because you want praise. That's not an issue at all. You do what you do because you're authentically a good person.
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Post by Zee on Apr 28, 2020 23:01:46 GMT
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 28, 2020 23:05:02 GMT
peabay , I'm so sorry that you're inundated w/loss of your loved ones. Overwhelmed is probably the minimum of what you're feeling right now. Right now it's important to allow others to give you lots of support. It's difficult because you can't be hugged in person, but I can certainly give you a cyber ((((HUG))) and let you know that I care about you and will be here to listen. Zee, thank you for all that are you doing to save other people. I've always respected you, because you are a nurse, but this just takes it beyond. Thank you so much. I don't feel heroic and am not posting for accolades--i hope I don't appear that way--but it is good to read different viewpoints here and I just want to share mine. You are so kind. I have been so happy to see how kind the ICU nurses I've been working with have treated these patients. Compassion and competence both. So impressed with these nurses who aren't letting fatigue or anxiety equal less care. I very much enjoy reading your perspective on things. I think we know the kind of person you are, to know it’s not said for any kind of accolades. Although that being said it’s really nice to be able to tell an actual health professional directly that they are really appreciated, rather than issue generic thank you to all of them.
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 28, 2020 23:08:58 GMT
Yes. Just lost a third father in my life (my step-father died two weeks ago, my father last week and my sister-in-law's lovely, charming father yesterday) this month. No one can mourn together; no one can do the normal rituals of comfort at times like this. Ugh - add on Corona and this year suuuuuuuucks. I'm so over it. I’m so sorry. You really have had a bucket load on your plate. I agree they hardest thing about losing people during this time is not being able to have the comfort of lots of loved ones around you. That really is an important part of grieving and healing, and it sucks that so many are being robbed of that.
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Post by Zee on Apr 28, 2020 23:09:45 GMT
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Post by luckyexwife on Apr 28, 2020 23:17:08 GMT
I had to stop listening/checking in on the news so often. I can only control what I can control. Making a list of the things I CAN do make the overwhelm better This. Stop checking in with the news as much. You can only control what's going on in your house. Unplug from your phone/electronic device and do something that brings you peace. Walk, take a bath whatever works for you. I set goals for each day/week. If I'm feeling low, I start with the low hanging fruit. the dishwasher needs to be emptied, ok I can do that. change the sheets, yes I can do that. Stuff like that which can give you an easy sense of accomplishment and you can literally cross it off your list. One day at a time, one week at a time if you can. This is what I have been doing, I've only been getting news here, and the local newspaper. I know I need to just not read certain threads right now.
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Post by luckyexwife on Apr 28, 2020 23:20:12 GMT
Yes!! I am used to having 2 kids at school and the 2 that are at home napping for at least an hour a day. So I have an hour to reset, get stuff done, etc. But now all 4 are home all day and I am trying to help facilitate school for the older two, keeping the younger two entertained and away from the working two, cooking 3 meals a day, keeping the kids from bothering DH who is working from home. And grocery shopping for our house, my inlaws (who won't just give me a damn list, but ask constantly what store I am going to, even though I have told them numerous times to just tell me what they want from where), 3 older couples on our road, and another friend of my inlaws. I'm also overwhelmed by the not knowing. There is a part of me that is not minding all of this. Not rushing around, spending lots of time together as a family, more cooking together. But I would like to know a date. I'm okay with it being 12 months, but I just want to know. Hugs to you!! A lot of this! Plus, I was a SAHM for 11 years, and just went back to work in January, and got a promotion in March. It's been crazy adjusting to that, and now being home and trying to get all 3 boys to do their online school. Plus, my ex is taking no responsibility for anything, and only focusing on his mistress. So I have all the responsibilities for the kids, the house, bills, and the lawyer. It's just too much at once.
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Post by luckyexwife on Apr 28, 2020 23:21:11 GMT
Yes. Just lost a third father in my life (my step-father died two weeks ago, my father last week and my sister-in-law's lovely, charming father yesterday) this month. No one can mourn together; no one can do the normal rituals of comfort at times like this. Ugh - add on Corona and this year suuuuuuuucks. I'm so over it. I'm so sorry.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 28, 2020 23:31:24 GMT
How can it be a political hoax?? Jeez...what about the rest of the world...😳🙄 K Because most of the doctors in most of the countries ‘got it wrong’ and thats why many of them need phycological help now for ptsd because it’s a political hoax. Sure, all for a ‘political hoax’. World wide. Right. Note: the article starts out by saying It’s the largest political hoax in ‘American history’ which should give you a clue about how self centered the writers are when speaking about a pandemic only in terms of America & American politics.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 28, 2020 23:46:14 GMT
WOW. I've never seen the whole wide world "in" on a pandemic hoax. They are doing a pretty good job. Is it to get Trump elected?? LOLPIMP!!!
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Post by ashley on Apr 28, 2020 23:56:12 GMT
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Post by peasapie on Apr 29, 2020 0:02:08 GMT
Yes for sure. We are all surrounded by so much uncertainty right now (and you're right - conflicting news) that I needed to enforce some predictability in my life. I realized I needed a routine: this is when I work, this is when I walk the dog, this is when I sit outside. That has helped a lot, and I feel like I'm much more settled knowing what to expect -- at least for a day at a time.
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Post by pjaye on Apr 29, 2020 0:13:21 GMT
Is anyone else just overwhelmed right now? There is so much conflicting news, depending on what and who you listen to. Even top scientists don't agree on everything right now. New symptoms are coming out all the time, there are new ways that it's affecting kids, and states right next to each other are doing different things… so how does that work? It's like this because this is a NEW virus into the human population. No-one knows what the best course of action is currently - it's all a case of "best guess" and fingers crossed. Only in hindsight in the years to come will we know what the best course of action turned out to be. Prior to (probably) November last year, not a single human had ever had this virus. That's why there is conflicting news, and lots of updates and corrections and speculation and different lists of symptoms at different times etc etc. At the start everyone was flying blind and there was a lot of speculation and guesswork because no-one knew how this would play out and we still don't. As people get the virus, as they show symptoms, as they recover or die the doctors and researchers and scientists are collecting the data trying to work out all the things that we already know about the other viruses. The common influenza viruses have been infecting people for thousands of years...this has been less than 6 months. Try not to look at is as "confusion" - but instead as evolving knowledge and information that we already know will change frequently as we see how this virus acts in humans in the years to come.
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Post by peano on Apr 29, 2020 0:25:02 GMT
peabay , I'm so sorry that you're inundated w/loss of your loved ones. Overwhelmed is probably the minimum of what you're feeling right now. Right now it's important to allow others to give you lots of support. It's difficult because you can't be hugged in person, but I can certainly give you a cyber ((((HUG))) and let you know that I care about you and will be here to listen. Zee , thank you for all that are you doing to save other people. I've always respected you, because you are a nurse, but this just takes it beyond. Thank you so much. I don't feel heroic and am not posting for accolades--i hope I don't appear that way--but it is good to read different viewpoints here and I just want to share mine. You are so kind. I have been so happy to see how kind the ICU nurses I've been working with have treated these patients. Compassion and competence both. So impressed with these nurses who aren't letting fatigue or anxiety equal lesscare. @zeeeffinggee, you definitely don't appear to be seeking accolades. I admire the work you are doing. I've had a lot of contact with medical workers in the past two months--doctors' office staffs, X-ray techs, ER staff, been scoped by an ENT doctor! I have not had one negative experience, and in fact, I've been so impressed and moved by everyone's kindness and patience. And peabay, you really have had an unfair share of losses in such a short time. I am so sorry.
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Post by peano on Apr 29, 2020 0:36:18 GMT
So 1+ million cases and almost 60,000 deaths is a hoax? I've seen you be rational over the years here; frivolous and attention seeking yes, but rational. The last few posts I've seen of yours seem totally out of character, e.g. the "we're going to Disney World!" thing, apparently unconcerned about the health of your children and family. It's strange to see.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 29, 2020 1:13:25 GMT
When did you start buying into Fox News-style propaganda? Listen to the 98% of doctors/scientists/experts, not the 2%. Just like we do with climate change, vaccines, evolution vs. creation, and pretty much everything else. One thing you’re right about, though ... as long as you stay home, you probably won’t need to worry about the virus.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 29, 2020 3:41:50 GMT
Wait a minute? Myshelly homeschools, doesn’t go to the dr, doesn’t have appointments, doesn’t really go out, but wants all the rest of us too?!! 😂🤪😲 she’s trying to take us all out. Lol
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