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Post by likescarrots on May 7, 2020 15:49:28 GMT
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Post by seaexplore on May 7, 2020 15:50:40 GMT
Yes!
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Post by ashley on May 7, 2020 15:52:49 GMT
Yes!! It’s such an unknown risk as well.
I’m super stressed out about the idea of being forced back out into public (for work, school) and the potential repercussions of that.
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Post by used2scrap on May 7, 2020 16:06:13 GMT
Yes. Can’t believe the medical professionals in the Oval Office yesterday insisting they didn’t need masks or social distancing. And today there’s a service member who works at the WH closely with POTUS who tested positive.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on May 7, 2020 16:41:31 GMT
Yes! Which is why I believe the models that show millions have already had this from as early as January without knowing. One report was that just the Bay Area alone had 50 to 80 TIMES the amount of positive cases than had been tested at the time. So 50 to 80 times the amount of people have already had it and gotten over it without knowing.
Asymptomatic people didn't just appear overnight and start spreading it. They have been here all along and spreading it this whole time.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on May 7, 2020 16:41:45 GMT
Yes. Can’t believe the medical professionals in the Oval Office yesterday insisting they didn’t need masks or social distancing. And today there’s a service member who works at the WH closely with POTUS who tested positive. No one should be believing "medical professionals" in the Oval Office. All the medical professionals I know are FURIOUS at how this has been handled. The good news is quite a few of them, that voted for Trump, will not be voting for him again because of how he's handling this. So....there's an up side  |
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Post by kelly316 on May 7, 2020 17:22:26 GMT
Yes!! It’s such an unknown risk as well. I’m super stressed out about the idea of being forced back out into public (for work, school) and the potential repercussions of that. Me too! I sway (almost 50/50) between wanting to go back to normal and being terrified of the new normal. |
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Post by katlady on May 7, 2020 17:24:46 GMT
If everyone wore a face mask and practiced social distancing, I'd be more optimistic about reopening the country. But there are a lot of people out there who still refuse to wear them even though it is now required in California (if you are within 6' of someone). It will at least help cut down on some of the spread.
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Post by scrapsotime on May 7, 2020 17:34:44 GMT
Do people forget that there are other diseases that are contagious before symptoms arise or do they just don't know that this happens frequently with other diseases?
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Post by worrywart on May 7, 2020 18:02:26 GMT
What I would like to know and what I have not heard discussed barely at all on the news is about the 400+ workers who tested positive but had no symptoms!
Are they following up on these people to see if they ever develop symptoms? Will they antibody test them later to check for antibodies?
I mean if 400 (out of I think 2800) people that worked in this plant were infected and asymptomatic, I think we need to know if and when they did get symptoms and how many did.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 7, 2020 18:52:51 GMT
This is precisely why this virus is so dangerous, because of the sheer number of people who have it (or had it) and just plain didn’t know. All these people walking around thinking, “I don’t *feel* sick, so I’m sure I don’t have it. I don’t need a mask, I’m healthy.” Yeah right.
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 7, 2020 19:04:00 GMT
What I would like to know and what I have not heard discussed barely at all on the news is about the 400+ workers who tested positive but had no symptoms! Are they following up on these people to see if they ever develop symptoms? Will they antibody test them later to check for antibodies? I mean if 400 (out of I think 2800) people that worked in this plant were infected and asymptomatic, I think we need to know if and when they did get symptoms and how many did. There's now been several large scale testing of groups (aircraft carrier, homeless shelter, several prison symptoms). All of them have shown extremely high asymptomatic people 60-90% |
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Post by hop2 on May 7, 2020 19:16:51 GMT
What I would like to know and what I have not heard discussed barely at all on the news is about the 400+ workers who tested positive but had no symptoms! Are they following up on these people to see if they ever develop symptoms? Will they antibody test them later to check for antibodies? I mean if 400 (out of I think 2800) people that worked in this plant were infected and asymptomatic, I think we need to know if and when they did get symptoms and how many did. There's now been several large scale testing of groups (aircraft carrier, homeless shelter, several prison symptoms). All of them have shown extremely high asymptomatic people 60-90% Yes, but they test them, and it seems like that’s it. Is anyone studying what all of these asymptomatic people might have in common? All the news stories just mention how many tested were asymptomatic and nothing else. I’m sure someone somewhere is looking at this but it would be great to hear about it. They must have *some* findings by now no? |
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Post by likescarrots on May 7, 2020 19:35:36 GMT
There's now been several large scale testing of groups (aircraft carrier, homeless shelter, several prison symptoms). All of them have shown extremely high asymptomatic people 60-90% Yes, but they test them, and it seems like that’s it. Is anyone studying what all of these asymptomatic people might have in common? All the news stories just mention how many tested were asymptomatic and nothing else. I’m sure someone somewhere is looking at this but it would be great to hear about it. They must have *some* findings by now no? I agree that it would be great to know, but it doesn't negate the fact that the virus is being spread by people who don't know they have it. Even if they get symptoms after they have tested positive, they have already been spreading the virus while they did not have the symptoms (unless they had been in total isolation since they encountered the person who gave it to them). |
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Post by hop2 on May 7, 2020 19:47:08 GMT
Yes, but they test them, and it seems like that’s it. Is anyone studying what all of these asymptomatic people might have in common? All the news stories just mention how many tested were asymptomatic and nothing else. I’m sure someone somewhere is looking at this but it would be great to hear about it. They must have *some* findings by now no? I agree that it would be great to know, but it doesn't negate the fact that the virus is being spread by people who don't know they have it. Even if they get symptoms after they have tested positive, they have already been spreading the virus while they did not have the symptoms (unless they had been in total isolation since they encountered the person who gave it to them). I didn’t say, or infer that it did. I just said I’m very interested in more information. |
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Post by Really Red on May 7, 2020 19:55:23 GMT
Yes. Can’t believe the medical professionals in the Oval Office yesterday insisting they didn’t need masks or social distancing. And today there’s a service member who works at the WH closely with POTUS who tested positive. No one should be believing "medical professionals" in the Oval Office. All the medical professionals I know are FURIOUS at how this has been handled. The good news is quite a few of them, that voted for Trump, will not be voting for him again because of how he's handling this. So....there's an up side I'm down South and one of my friends is a well-respected doctor. She is pretty spanking brilliant. She doesn't post a ton, but she was really angry about the nurse who was dismissed by Trump when she said she didn't have access to PPE that she needed. She is SO SO reasonable and basically asked her fellow medical professionals if they were experiencing this lack of PPE or was Trump correct. The responses!! Some people just claimed her politics wouldn't allow her to think one good thing of Trump (I hear that a lot) and after my poor friend giving her many details (both sides were respectful), crazy lady just said the doctor was nitpicking and that if there weren't enough PPE, it was the fault of the medical professionals! FFS!!! Do people forget that there are other diseases that are contagious before symptoms arise or do they just don't know that this happens frequently with other diseases? 23 years ago when I brought my preemie babies home and I made all the people who had to come and check on them (respiratory therapists and the like) wash up and wear masks. They were OUTRAGED. They all - every last one of them - told me that they would KNOW if they were sick. WTF?!?!!? When I told them that they could be asymptomatic and contagious or they could be spreading germs just prior to actually feeling ill, they shook their heads and said "You're a new mom. It'll change." I wonder where they are now. |
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Post by silverlining on May 7, 2020 20:52:07 GMT
I too feel so discouraged with people saying "we're not sick, so we don't need to wear masks, we'll spend time with our elderly relatives, we'll open our businesses, etc."
I remember when various governments sent planes to evacuate their citizens from the Diamond Princess cruise ship, the US put sick people in one area of the plane and tested them. Germany offered a test to anyone on their plane who wanted it,and several people with no symptoms tested positive. This was in mid-February!
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Post by PLurker on May 7, 2020 21:12:46 GMT
No shirt, no shoes, no service. (and pants is prob a given) Why does adding one more part to cover (for the sake of everyone's health and lives!) put some people so far over the "you-can't-make-me!" edge?!
And it's only when you're near and among others, otherwise let you freak face fly. Grow the eff up, snowflakes.
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Post by maryland on May 7, 2020 22:20:46 GMT
Thank you! If I watch our local news, they are so excited about reopening, getting back to normal, getting sports back, going to the stadium, etc. They are even talking about get togethers for Mother's Day. I worry that people around here think if the state opens up, they don't have to take precautions. (I don't think many understand what you pointed out.)
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Post by yodutchess on May 7, 2020 22:27:32 GMT
I would like to have my “ old” life back. But I could not live with the possibility of potentially infecting someone at risk.
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Post by yodutchess on May 7, 2020 22:27:50 GMT
I would like to have my “ old” life back. But I could not live with the possibility of potentially infecting someone at risk.
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Post by worrywart on May 7, 2020 22:29:03 GMT
I totally agree that positive testing means that people should be contact traced and quarantined....symptoms or not.
What I am just wondering if the number of people who test positive with no symptoms, ever get them.
They are antibody testing quite a few random shoppers in NY and NYC has about a 20% rate of people who tested positive for antibodies which should mean that they have had the disease. I would like to know if they are questioning them further and asking if they knew that they had had Corona...or if they ever had symptoms.
We need LOTS more testing...both types. Accurate and plentiful testing no matter what Washington says. More testing can only give better and more complete information on how this illness works.
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Post by epeanymous on May 7, 2020 23:07:13 GMT
Accurate and plentiful testing no matter what Washington says. More testing can only give better and more complete information on how this illness works. Just to point out, Pence said he gets tested frequently, and the news today seems to confirm that people in the White House are being tested routinely and periodically. They clearly do think that plentiful testing is important. Just not for you, or for me. |
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