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Post by peasapie on May 14, 2020 19:01:52 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 14, 2020 19:02:37 GMT
A travesty.
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Post by prapea on May 14, 2020 19:17:37 GMT
If your(general you) daughter is white then you don’t have to worry. It’s only black people that seem to get killed when they are jogging, sleeping or when some other drunk white person enters the black person’s house by mistake.
I am brown and so is my so . At this point I feel like i have more privilege than a black person in this country. I am so ashamed of the shit that is happening
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Post by nlwilkins on May 14, 2020 19:17:51 GMT
The case would look a lot better if they had hired a different lawyer. . .not saying they should not get justice. But by hiring the lawyer they did, it looks like they are seeking publicity instead of justice.
The police knew where the suspect was and it was NOT in that house - no excuse for breaking down the door like they did.
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Post by *KAS* on May 14, 2020 19:34:29 GMT
The case would look a lot better if they had hired a different lawyer. . .not saying they should not get justice. But by hiring the lawyer they did, it looks like they are seeking publicity instead of justice. The police knew where the suspect was and it was NOT in that house - no excuse for breaking down the door like they did. I'd guess they ARE looking for some publicity so the case doesn't get swept under the rug, so that they have a shot of justice. I've never even heard of the case. But it sounds terrible.
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Post by bbkeef on May 14, 2020 19:36:14 GMT
Also, why is Walker being charged with attempted murder of a police officer? He had every right to protect himself from somebody busting in the apartment without announcing they were police. This is totally messed up.
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Post by tracylynn on May 14, 2020 19:43:38 GMT
The case would look a lot better if they had hired a different lawyer. . .not saying they should not get justice. But by hiring the lawyer they did, it looks like they are seeking publicity instead of justice. The police knew where the suspect was and it was NOT in that house - no excuse for breaking down the door like they did. Of course they are looking for publicity. This happened 2 months ago and it took social media to get the news out there. If this was your daughter wouldn't you want publicity too?
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Post by Gravity on May 14, 2020 20:00:22 GMT
This case is absolutely heartbreaking. The officers should be charged and convicted of murder. RIP Breonna
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Post by casii on May 14, 2020 20:07:35 GMT
Her story has been on Twitter for the past week or so. I hope the officers are charged and charges against her boyfriend are dropped. If they had been white, this would never have happened.
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Post by flanz on May 14, 2020 20:13:37 GMT
If your(general you) daughter is white then you don’t have to worry. It’s only black people that seem to get killed when they are jogging, sleeping or when some other drunk white person enters the black person’s house by mistake. I am brown and so is my so . At this point I feel like i have more privilege than a black person in this country. I am so ashamed of the shit that is happening Yes! And this white person is deeply ashamed. horrifying. Our reality in this country is horrifying.
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Post by peasapie on May 14, 2020 20:57:24 GMT
Also, why is Walker being charged with attempted murder of a police officer? He had every right to protect himself from somebody busting in the apartment without announcing they were police. This is totally messed up. Exactly! It's completely outrageous. And by the way, I think the actual suspect had been apprehended the night before.
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Post by katlady on May 14, 2020 21:26:40 GMT
What is strange is that this was supposedly a "no-knock" warrant, yet the police are claiming they knocked and announced who they were??!! WTH?
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Post by moodyblue on May 14, 2020 21:34:21 GMT
Yet another absolutely horrendous mess that ended in the death of another person of color. And what looks like another case of it being justified by the legal system instead of them investigating and bringing charges. Seems like only publicity and a public outcry make the wheels of justice turn at all. This is not the way it should be. And nothing will bring back the innocent people who get killed.
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Post by Skellinton on May 14, 2020 21:56:30 GMT
Yet another absolutely horrendous mess that ended in the death of another person of color. And what looks like another case of it being justified by the legal system instead of them investigating and bringing charges. Seems like only publicity and a public outcry make the wheels of justice turn at all. This is not the way it should be. And nothing will bring back the innocent people who get killed. I agree with everything you said. I just saw it this morning. I hope the publicity helps bring an arrest. How awful for her boyfriend and her family. Just tragic.
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Post by luckyjune on May 14, 2020 22:07:06 GMT
I hope they get all the publicity in the world. This is horrifying.
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Post by Megan on May 14, 2020 23:51:33 GMT
I am tired of this. I cannot imagine the tiredness of those who try to fight this everyday. Those who could have been these people ... and still could be. Those whose children look like Breonna. To say I'm heartbroken isn't enough. I'm trying to learn. Learn how to teach my boys this isn't right and this isn't ok. Learn how I can help stop this.
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Post by epeanymous on May 15, 2020 0:04:08 GMT
What is strange is that this was supposedly a "no-knock" warrant, yet the police are claiming they knocked and announced who they were??!! WTH? Of course they say that (which the neighbors dispute); otherwise, you're acting in self-defense or defense of habitation when people break in your front door in the wee hours. Police should only get no-knock warrants under extreme circumstances for this reason, and investigating a drug crime definitely doesn't seem like an extreme circumstance to me. The constitutional knock-and-announce requirement is there in large part to preserve life.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on May 15, 2020 0:05:22 GMT
What was so urgent about this search that it had to occur at night? While the Supreme Court has not specifically ruled a nighttime search is “unreasonable” by definition, it is generally considered an unreasonable search and has been ruled so in some states. supreme.findlaw.com/legal-commentary/is-the-nighttime-the-wrong-time-for-searching-houses-the-supreme-court-of-minnesota-reads-the-us-constitution-to-say-yes.htmlTwo of the reasons cited for raising the standard to determine if a night time search is reasonable include the “more personal nature” of night time activities in the home and the “increased anxiety and vulnerability experienced when one's home is invaded at night.” Therefore, “one has a special interest in ‘freedom from intrusion during a period of nighttime repose.’” If you need to meet a higher standard to justify a nighttime search in the first place, there should be an even higher standard for a no-knock warrant being served at night. This warrant was a ridiculous abuse of the process, and I hope someone is held accountable in the office that authorized it. This is EXACTLY the situation you want to avoid when serving a warrant, but these bozos set it up in such a way that it was almost certain to have a bad outcome. ETA. Just to be clear, I think the officers who shot her should be held criminally responsible for her death. I just think the paperpushers who authorized It should also be held accountable.
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Post by snugglebutter on May 15, 2020 6:02:30 GMT
What is strange is that this was supposedly a "no-knock" warrant, yet the police are claiming they knocked and announced who they were??!! WTH? And where the hell were the body cams?
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Post by MaryMary on May 15, 2020 6:20:23 GMT
This is devastating and so unnecessary.
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Post by *KAS* on May 15, 2020 12:36:23 GMT
What is strange is that this was supposedly a "no-knock" warrant, yet the police are claiming they knocked and announced who they were??!! WTH? Right, that doesn't make any sense. If they went with a no knock warrant, why would they then claim that they announced themselves? If that were the case, they wouldn't have used a no knock warrant. It's like they are using that to justify the attempted murder charge (where he shot him in the leg, by the way) but it conflicts with the legal order they were using. I understand the point of no knock warrants, but it seems like the 'good' that come from them can't possibly outweigh the potential bad - both for the people being served (who could react just like happened here and shoot b/c they think there is an intruder) AND the law enforcement officers serving the warrant.
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Post by *KAS* on May 15, 2020 15:33:26 GMT
Also of note from a different article I found - The officers were plain clothes officers. So now you have guys wearing street clothes essentially breaking into somebody's house at 12:40am, waking up the occupants by busting through their front door. - The guy who lived in the house is a licensed and registered gun owner AND called 911 saying the house was being broken into. - He fired ONE shot. The police allegedly fired back more than 20.
All of this for a house that allegedly could have 'received mail, keep drugs or stash money' - not by either resident of the home but by a different guy that was arrested at the same time across town. We need a no knock, plain clothes, after midnight search warrant to find drugs, money or mail because a guy was seen coming out of her apartment with a UPS package in JANUARY. And (allegedly) was seen parked at her apartment a few times since then.
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Post by knitnakinva on May 15, 2020 17:46:04 GMT
The case would look a lot better if they had hired a different lawyer. . .not saying they should not get justice. But by hiring the lawyer they did, it looks like they are seeking publicity instead of justice. The police knew where the suspect was and it was NOT in that house - no excuse for breaking down the door like they did. Their daughter was gunned down in her home. They can do whatever they feel like they need to, and they don't need permission.
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 15, 2020 18:06:32 GMT
No knock warrants have their place, but this really does not seem like an appropriate use. It's extremely high risk in the best of circumstances, there should be an extremely well thought out rationale for their use and for only very high value targets.
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Post by Olan on May 28, 2020 18:16:58 GMT
The case would look a lot better if they had hired a different lawyer. . .not saying they should not get justice. But by hiring the lawyer they did, it looks like they are seeking publicity instead of justice. The police knew where the suspect was and it was NOT in that house - no excuse for breaking down the door like they did. No excuse for breaking the door down? You say that as if that’s all that happened that night. She is dead and in the ground and up until recently her partner was in jail too. Seeking justice instead of publicity? If your family member was shot dead in their home as they slept wouldn’t you want as much publicity as possible? Do you think black people should quietly accept this as okay? And justice doesn’t look like burying your child. Justice would be us not living in fear of our lives and police actually honoring the oath they took. www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2020/05/video-of-washtenaw-county-deputy-punching-woman-sparks-outrage-in-ypsilanti-township.html
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Post by Olan on Jun 4, 2020 13:45:38 GMT
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Post by busy on Jun 4, 2020 13:54:46 GMT
The case would look a lot better if they had hired a different lawyer. . .not saying they should not get justice. But by hiring the lawyer they did, it looks like they are seeking publicity instead of justice. The police knew where the suspect was and it was NOT in that house - no excuse for breaking down the door like they did. 😳 Are you kidding me? If your daughter was murdered by the police in her own home because the cops went to the wrong place, you wouldn’t want every damn person in the world to know? You wouldn’t be screaming from the rooftops? I sure as hell would. I’d want those fuckers in jail AND the world to know. Jesus with judging the victims.
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Post by Olan on Jun 4, 2020 14:05:53 GMT
The case would look a lot better if they had hired a different lawyer. . .not saying they should not get justice. But by hiring the lawyer they did, it looks like they are seeking publicity instead of justice. The police knew where the suspect was and it was NOT in that house - no excuse for breaking down the door like they did. 😳 Are you kidding me? If your daughter was murdered by the police in her own home because the cops went to the wrong place, you wouldn’t want every damn person in the world to know? You wouldn’t be screaming from the rooftops? I sure as hell would. I’d want those fuckers in jail AND the world to know. Jesus with judging the victims. If you looked in the comments section of the news stories surrounding Philando Castile murder you saw a huge number of commenters saying his girlfriend’s motive was notoriety or she was a “welfare queen” looking for a payout. Apparently a lot of racists think black people want to bury their loved ones so they can hire uppity attorneys and cash out. Pretty sad but surprisingly not uncommon. A very hard watch: Philando Castile’s daughter and girlfriend following his murder: www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-video-diamond-reynolds-daughter-20170622-story.html
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Post by busy on Jun 4, 2020 14:11:31 GMT
😳 Are you kidding me? If your daughter was murdered by the police in her own home because the cops went to the wrong place, you wouldn’t want every damn person in the world to know? You wouldn’t be screaming from the rooftops? I sure as hell would. I’d want those fuckers in jail AND the world to know. Jesus with judging the victims. If you looked in the comments section of the news stories surrounding Philando Castile murder you saw a huge number of commenters saying his girlfriend’s motive was notoriety or she was a “welfare queen” looking for a payout. Apparently a lot of racists think black people want to bury their loved ones so they can hire uppity attorneys and cash out. Pretty sad but surprisingly not uncommon. A very hard watch: Philando Castile’s daughter and girlfriend following his murder: www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-video-diamond-reynolds-daughter-20170622-story.htmlOh, I remember. And the people saying John Crawford shouldn’t have been carrying something that was FOR SALE IN THE STORE HE WAS MURDERED IN, while they defended their state being an open carry state out of the other side of their mouths. And the people staying Tamir Rice shouldn’t have been playing in a park with a toy gun and deserved to be shot on sight for that, though they’d never dream of calling the cops on a white 12 year for doing the same, nor would cops have reacted the same. Again, an open carry state so 12 year old child with a toy aside, having a visible weapon IS NOT ILLEGAL. unless you’re Black, because then the default presumption is that you’re a threat 🤬 And on and on and on. There’s always “justification.” It’s shameful to see the garbage people will come up with to excuse violence against anyone who isn’t white.
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Post by busy on Jun 4, 2020 17:20:19 GMT
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