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Post by freecharlie on May 18, 2020 3:03:42 GMT
Would you put two pull out shelves so that they move independent of each other or one larger one?
It would be two 11 inch or one 20 inch
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Post by lesmcf on May 18, 2020 3:07:17 GMT
One large one. Two 11 inch space would not be as functional as a 20 inch one
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on May 18, 2020 3:19:21 GMT
How many pots and pans do you have that are less than 11" tall? How many are taller than that? Measure your pots and pans and see what you are working with.
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 18, 2020 4:32:36 GMT
Under my cook-top I have 2 independent pull out shelves. I don't keep anything deeper than a dutch oven on them. I keep my gumbo/soup pots in the pantry.
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Post by used2scrap on May 18, 2020 4:37:13 GMT
I have 2 independent shelves for my plastic storage and lids, and two independent 3/4 lazy Susan’s for the pots and jams in a corner cabinet.
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Post by bc2ca on May 18, 2020 4:49:30 GMT
Would you put two pull out shelves so that they move independent of each other or one larger one? It would be two 11 inch or one 20 inch I would have two 11 inch shelves because that is enough clearance for my biggest pot to sit in one (along with all the smaller pots and a few extras) and other items (frying pans, pyrex dishes, etc.) to be stored in another. Twenty inches is plenty deep enough for too many things to get lost and even a KitchenAid doesn't need that much height. |
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Post by snugglebutter on May 18, 2020 5:00:01 GMT
How heavy is your cookware?
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Post by nlwilkins on May 18, 2020 5:45:57 GMT
I have just one drawer under my stove for the pots and pans and it is way too heavy. Plus, I have to dig to find the lids and the pans I need.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on May 18, 2020 8:21:41 GMT
You mean width/length, not height, right? One 20” wide drawer.
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Post by mikklynn on May 18, 2020 11:32:14 GMT
Would you have to open 2 doors to access the wider shelf? If so, I would go with 2 shelves.
On the other hand, my pullout shelves are 16" wide from outside edges. I would not go much more narrow.i can fit my largest cookware on them.
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Post by lisae on May 18, 2020 11:48:54 GMT
Neither. I prefer drawers. When you have pull outs, you have to open one or two doors first and then the pullout to get to your pans. With a drawer, you get to your stuff with one movement. I do have one cabinet with a door and no pullouts for the heaviest pans and the Dutch oven.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on May 18, 2020 12:05:21 GMT
I’m operating on the assumption that you mean the width of the pullout and not the height. Definitely go with the single wider one for pots and pans.
I love my pullouts. I have five lower cabinets with pullouts and they are so convenient. I also have one lower with deep drawers but I’m using those for all the wraps and ziplocks in one and paper products for using around the pool in the other. Maybe it’s what I’m keeping in them, but I find the drawers stay more jumbled. The pullouts are much easier to keep neat and access what’s stored there easily.
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Post by elaine on May 18, 2020 12:38:18 GMT
I’m operating on the assumption that you mean the width of the pullout and not the height. Definitely go with the single wider one for pots and pans. I love my pullouts. I have five lower cabinets with pullouts and they are so convenient. I also have one lower with deep drawers but I’m using those for all the wraps and ziplocks in one and paper products for using around the pool in the other. Maybe it’s what I’m keeping in them, but I find the drawers stay more jumbled. The pullouts are much easier to keep neat and access what’s stored there easily. This.  |
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Post by amom23 on May 18, 2020 13:01:40 GMT
Neither for me. All of my lower cabinets are drawers. Some are regular like for utensils and others are deep for pot and pans. Such an efficient use of the space.
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Post by chedanemi on May 18, 2020 13:24:29 GMT
If you are putting in new cabinetry, don't do traditional base cabinets with pullouts at all. Do bottom drawers. They are much more functional. If you do pullouts, think about it... you open the doors and pull them out just like a DRAWER. Give yourself more room by actually using drawers!
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Post by worrywart on May 18, 2020 13:39:31 GMT
I'm assuming you are talking about the width (left to right) of the pullouts? In that case I would choose the 20 inch..but if I could redo my kitchen, I would choose large drawers.
One of my cabinets has two narrow pullouts and I feel like I have less space than if it spanned the entire width of the cabinet.
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Post by milocat on May 18, 2020 14:20:27 GMT
One large one, but make it a drawer.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 18, 2020 14:31:14 GMT
We have two pull out drawers under our cooktop. We can fit all but two of the biggest pots in there, and those are stored in the adjacent lazy susan corner cabinet so they are still in a convenient place.
I don’t know what people are talking about RE: a 20” wide drawer? That makes no sense to me because the cooktop mine is on is a base cabinet that’s 42” wide. There’s a column of narrow drawers on the left and two 27” wide pull out shelves stacked underneath the cooktop on the right. The bottom drawer space is about 9.5” tall and the top one is about 11” tall, together the space is about 21” high.
I wouldn’t opt for a single drawer with a 20” height. Too many things would have to be stacked for everything to fit in the space of a single shelf. It wouldn’t take much of constantly having to go digging every time I needed one of the bottom pans in the stack before that would drive me bonkers.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 14:41:55 GMT
What Spongemom said. Love my pull outs! Wide for pots and pans. Narrow for groceries. Drawers for plastics and foils/wraps. I store pots/pans with the lid on each pot. I don't put heavy and cast iron on pull outs.
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Post by elaine on May 18, 2020 14:44:07 GMT
We have two pull out drawers under our cooktop. We can fit all but two of the biggest pots in there, and those are stored in the adjacent lazy susan corner cabinet so they are still in a convenient place. I don’t know what people are talking about RE: a 20” wide drawer? That makes no sense to me because the cooktop mine is on is a base cabinet that’s 42” wide. There’s a column of narrow drawers on the left and two 27” wide pull out shelves stacked underneath the cooktop on the right. The bottom drawer space is about 9.5” tall and the top one is about 11” tall, together the space is about 21” high. I wouldn’t opt for a single drawer with a 20” height. Too many things would have to be stacked for everything to fit in the space of a single shelf. It wouldn’t take much of constantly having to go digging every time I needed one of the bottom pans in the stack before that would drive me bonkers. I think people are talking about a 20” wide drawer because the OP asked about two 11” pull out shelves vs. one 20” one. Of course if her cabinets were wider than 20” - (IKEA sells 21” ones, for example) then the suggestion would be drawers the width of the cabinet, rather than a 20” pull out shelf in said cabinet. People don’t know what the exact measurement of her cabinet is, so they are going by the numbers the OP did provide. I guess I don’t understand why it doesn’t make sense to you? The recommendations aren’t confusing to me. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 18, 2020 15:54:01 GMT
We have two pull out drawers under our cooktop. We can fit all but two of the biggest pots in there, and those are stored in the adjacent lazy susan corner cabinet so they are still in a convenient place. I don’t know what people are talking about RE: a 20” wide drawer? That makes no sense to me because the cooktop mine is on is a base cabinet that’s 42” wide. There’s a column of narrow drawers on the left and two 27” wide pull out shelves stacked underneath the cooktop on the right. The bottom drawer space is about 9.5” tall and the top one is about 11” tall, together the space is about 21” high. I wouldn’t opt for a single drawer with a 20” height. Too many things would have to be stacked for everything to fit in the space of a single shelf. It wouldn’t take much of constantly having to go digging every time I needed one of the bottom pans in the stack before that would drive me bonkers. I think people are talking about a 20” wide drawer because the OP asked about two 11” pull out shelves vs. one 20” one. Of course if her cabinets were wider than 20” - (IKEA sells 21” ones, for example) then the suggestion would be drawers the width of the cabinet, rather than a 20” pull out shelf in said cabinet. People don’t know what the exact measurement of her cabinet is, so they are going by the numbers the OP did provide. I guess I don’t understand why it doesn’t make sense to you? The recommendations aren’t confusing to me. The way I read the question (which is somewhat vague) was, would I want two separate pull out drawers (assuming stacked one above the other, the way my own are) that are shallower, or one single pull out the full 20” depth of the space, which is what mine would be if there was no top shelf/pull out. You would have to have a pretty small cooktop to have it on a base only 20” wide. That was what didn’t make sense to me. If it wasn’t under a cooktop, I could understand it being a narrower cabinet. I have one 18” wide cabinet next to my stove at our cabin that has no shelves inside, just one big deep space, because I wanted it for storing baking pans vertically. Now that I’m thinking about it more, I still think I would get the two pull out drawers installed because it would be easier to do all at once vs. adding it later. If at some point I would only want one deeper drawer I could always take out the top one leaving the inside hardware intact and store the shelf somewhere else in the house and just use the bottom one, creating a deeper space for taller things. |
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Post by elaine on May 18, 2020 17:13:52 GMT
I think people are talking about a 20” wide drawer because the OP asked about two 11” pull out shelves vs. one 20” one. Of course if her cabinets were wider than 20” - (IKEA sells 21” ones, for example) then the suggestion would be drawers the width of the cabinet, rather than a 20” pull out shelf in said cabinet. People don’t know what the exact measurement of her cabinet is, so they are going by the numbers the OP did provide. I guess I don’t understand why it doesn’t make sense to you? The recommendations aren’t confusing to me. The way I read the question (which is somewhat vague) was, would I want two separate pull out drawers (assuming stacked one above the other, the way my own are) that are shallower, or one single pull out the full 20” depth of the space, which is what mine would be if there was no top shelf/pull out. You would have to have a pretty small cooktop to have it on a base only 20” wide. That was what didn’t make sense to me. If it wasn’t under a cooktop, I could understand it being a narrower cabinet. I have one 18” wide cabinet next to my stove at our cabin that has no shelves inside, just one big deep space, because I wanted it for storing baking pans vertically. Now that I’m thinking about it more, I still think I would get the two pull out drawers installed because it would be easier to do all at once vs. adding it later. If at some point I would only want one deeper drawer I could always take out the top one leaving the inside hardware intact and store the shelf somewhere else in the house and just use the bottom one, creating a deeper space for taller things. There is a difference between pull-out shelves and drawers. Two different things. The first goes inside a cabinet that has a door that swings out. The second is a drawer. Nowhere in the OP did she mention putting the sliding shelves under a cooktop - I’m not sure where you got that idea. I have a cabinet with a slide-out shelf next to my range. The cabinet is 24” wide. Because of the hardware necessary to have functional sliding shelves, the shelf is 20” wide. I couldn’t put any cabinetry under my range. Many people have a oven-cooktop combo/range so the whole drawers vs sliding shelves under it wouldn’t be an issue. |
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Post by freecharlie on May 18, 2020 17:36:49 GMT
You mean width/length, not height, right? One 20” wide drawer. yes. Sorry. wide, not high |
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Post by freecharlie on May 18, 2020 17:44:20 GMT
Would you have to open 2 doors to access the wider shelf? Yes, but we often open both doors to find what we are looking for anyway. The way I read the question (which is somewhat vague) Sorry about that. I often assume everybody is on the same track as me. I was looking at these pull out drawer thing |
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Post by dewryce on May 18, 2020 18:33:33 GMT
I agree that I’d want more drawers than pull-outs, provided they can handle at least the same amount of weight. But if you’re looking at updating an existing cabinet, pull-outs are fantastic. I agree with having a single larger pull-out for this purpose. Rev-a-shelf makes hardware that allows you to attach some pullouts to your cabinet doors, so it is more like having a drawer. I have used one for a built-in trash can and we bought it for that purpose in our kitchen but still haven’t installed it. I’ll try and find a link for you. Here is the link. I have a lot of their products, and even installed several  The quality is great, I would compare it to Lynx from reviews and messing with Lynx in TCS. RAS has a lot more options for pullouts, other drawer and cabinet organization. It’s readily available in a lot of places like Amazon, home improvement stores and build.com. |
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Post by dewryce on May 18, 2020 18:46:40 GMT
This is another option. I think they also make it without the top rack for lids and I think I would prefer that, because some of our larger pans have handles that would interfere with the top rack, even when it is placed in the highest possible position. We have one of these waiting to be installed, so I can’t speak to how well it works compared to a regular pullout, but wanted to let you know it was available. If you have any questions about installation or exact measurements and clearance I find they are often answered in the comments. In general they are the most helpful reviews I have come across.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 18, 2020 19:14:29 GMT
The way I read the question (which is somewhat vague) was, would I want two separate pull out drawers (assuming stacked one above the other, the way my own are) that are shallower, or one single pull out the full 20” depth of the space, which is what mine would be if there was no top shelf/pull out. You would have to have a pretty small cooktop to have it on a base only 20” wide. That was what didn’t make sense to me. If it wasn’t under a cooktop, I could understand it being a narrower cabinet. I have one 18” wide cabinet next to my stove at our cabin that has no shelves inside, just one big deep space, because I wanted it for storing baking pans vertically. Now that I’m thinking about it more, I still think I would get the two pull out drawers installed because it would be easier to do all at once vs. adding it later. If at some point I would only want one deeper drawer I could always take out the top one leaving the inside hardware intact and store the shelf somewhere else in the house and just use the bottom one, creating a deeper space for taller things. There is a difference between pull-out shelves and drawers. Two different things. The first goes inside a cabinet that has a door that swings out. The second is a drawer. Nowhere in the OP did she mention putting the sliding shelves under a cooktop - I’m not sure where you got that idea. I have a cabinet with a slide-out shelf next to my range. The cabinet is 24” wide. Because of the hardware necessary to have functional sliding shelves, the shelf is 20” wide. I couldn’t put any cabinetry under my range. Many people have a oven-cooktop combo/range so the whole drawers vs sliding shelves under it wouldn’t be an issue. I *have* pull out shelves under my own cooktop, inside a cabinet. Built in. Not drawers. That’s where I got the idea. The thing she linked later is similar to what I have, but it’s an add on vs. being a built in. I missed that she didn’t say cooktop in the OP but other people later did. Sorry for that confusion. |
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Post by mikklynn on May 18, 2020 20:37:47 GMT
Whatever you choose, you will love it.
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The quality is great, I would compare it to Lynx from reviews and messing with Lynx in TCS. RAS has a lot more options for pullouts, other drawer and cabinet organization. It’s readily available in a lot of places like Amazon, home improvement stores and build.com.