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Post by flanz on Jun 2, 2020 17:33:11 GMT
I know there are heartless bastards in all walks of life, but three other policemen saw and did nothing. That tells me this happens too frequently and either no one is willing to stand up to the bully or they all think it's just fine. Either way, there has to be a big change in this country. THIS^^^^^^ My heart broke when I heard and saw some of what happened to Mr. George Floyd, but I became ENRAGED when I found out three other officers LET this happen. There is no way I could let this happen, even it if meant loosing my job or even my life. I could never, ever live with myself if I stood by and let this happen. They didn't just stand by either. There is video footage of three of them kneeling on top of Mr. Floyd at the same time while one watched/stood by. All four need to be convicted of murder, in my opinion.
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Post by ~Susan~ on Jun 2, 2020 17:35:20 GMT
THIS^^^^^^ My heart broke when I heard and saw some of what happened to Mr. George Floyd, but I became ENRAGED when I found out three other officers LET this happen. There is no way I could let this happen, even it if meant loosing my job or even my life. I could never, ever live with myself if I stood by and let this happen. They didn't just stand by either. There is video footage of three of them kneeling on top of Mr. Floyd at the same time while one watched/stood by. All four need to be convicted of murder, in my opinion. I agree profusely with this. They all should be put UNDER the jail or better yet general pop, but I know that will never happen.
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Post by tara on Jun 2, 2020 18:37:47 GMT
Kinda sad when someone wants to see the world change and be a better place for everyone, and just gets shut down. I would imagine that Colin Kaepernick and everyone else who took a knee to see the world change and be a better place felt the same way... Needs repeating. I debated with people on this very board about Kaepernick. He and others were trying to tell people about this issue but some didn’t want to hear it. Well is everyone listening now?!!! I remember trump calling the kneeling players assholes and sons of bitches. Fuck trump and anyone who voted for him. Hope everyone of those piss ants are happy now.
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Post by tara on Jun 2, 2020 18:44:26 GMT
I’m a mother to a biracial son. I also have a black son-in-law who I love like a son. We also have 2 Latino children and my daughter is bisexual. You can imagine the fear I live with as a mom. I didn’t read the article because I’m already emotional about this issue. I just want to say I’m a middle age, middle class, white woman and I’m so frustrated even I want to go out and break something!!!
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 3, 2020 13:09:24 GMT
Don’t just be sad and angry. Be our mama allies.
For those who want to know where to begin:
--Call/write/email your representatives. Tell them you’re not going to tolerate anymore police brutality and that they have to make this a priority in legislation. We all know all politicians want to be re-elected and if enough people voice their demands, they’ll do something about it, even if it’s incremental. Go to the district offices of your politicians and ask for an appointment for a sit-down to discuss your concerns and demands. Participate in townhalls. Tell every single one of them to step up and make this one of their topmost priorities. Talk to the people in your orbit – your family, friends, co-workers, colleagues, and ask them to team up with you and make calls and put their names on your letters and petitions.
--The young are particularly livid about what’s been happening. The problem is too many of them do not vote. Encourage those young people in your families to always vote. Is your state routinely suppressing the votes of blacks and other minorities? You can help by joining organizations and coalitions that facilitate minority voting. Contact your state and local officials, the ACLU, the League of Women Voters and they’ll give you the facts and guidance as to how you can help.
--Join or volunteer in local organizations that advocate for civil rights. Support them with whatever funds you can afford.
--If you’re surrounded daily by mostly white people who never hear the black perspective, widen your world – for example, visit a black church every now and then (if you’re a person of faith) and get to know some of the people there (who knows, you might even meet my mother; she’s the sweetie with the six violets on her church hat; and honestly, these black church people are fun). Are there black-owned business near you? Patronize those businesses and chat up the owners. Do you sometimes see black parents when there’s a school function? Approach them, introduce yourself, talk about children stuff, school stuff, whatever. Make an effort to get to know as many different black people as possible in your lives.
--Do you have black friends? Call them. Don’t saddle them with how you’re feeling right now. You’re sad and angry at this moment? Trust me, they’re feeling worse. Just tell them you care about them and that you’re available if he/she needs you.
--Be honest with your kids. Depending on their age, help them understand in terms that won’t confuse them that everybody in this country is not treated equally because of their skin color. I know that could be too abstract for some kids so just encourage them to befriend more children of color. Children are smart, sometimes smarter than adults, and in my experience they’re the ones who usually “get it.”
--Don’t be afraid to speak up. If you see something unfair occurring right before your eyes and you know it’s racially-motivated, don’t go rushing to your social media. Say something right there and then and endeavor to intervene without endangering yourself.
--Don't punish yourselves for feeling conflicted right now. That doesn't help anything. There’s nothing wrong with being dismayed about the violence currently happening. Any decent human being can be cognizant of the rage undergirding all this AND at the same time not condone the destruction of property. Feeling this way doesn’t make you insensitive and it doesn’t make you a racist. Fury isn’t even close to describing what I feel about the state-sanctioned killings and brutality toward blacks, but I am also saddened for the people who have to pick up the pieces afterwards and whose livelihoods have been destroyed. Yes, property can be replaced and dead people will remain dead. Yes, some of the damage was on high-end retail stores that may be able to easily recover, but I’ve seen plenty of small neighborhood businesses set on fire that are unlikely to have the resources to rebuild. We are fighting and clamoring against the savagery of too many officers; how could the solution be savagery in the destruction of communities?
--Finally, understand that this is not just one moment. For some of us, racism has been a lifetime legacy. Whatever effort you put into helping requires a sustained commitment. So, commit. There'll be times (many) when you'll be discouraged. Just don't lose hope. And keep asking questions.
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Post by Olan on Jun 3, 2020 14:04:09 GMT
Don’t just be sad and angry. Be our mama allies. For those who want to know where to begin: --Call/write/email your representatives. Tell them you’re not going to tolerate anymore police brutality and that they have to make this a priority in legislation. We all know all politicians want to be re-elected and if enough people voice their demands, they’ll do something about it, even if it’s incremental. Go to the district offices of your politicians and ask for an appointment for a sit-down to discuss your concerns and demands. Participate in townhalls. Tell every single one of them to step up and make this one of their topmost priorities. Talk to the people in your orbit – your family, friends, co-workers, colleagues, and ask them to team up with you and make calls and put their names on your letters and petitions. --The young are particularly livid about what’s been happening. The problem is too many of them do not vote. Encourage those young people in your families to always vote. Is your state routinely suppressing the votes of blacks and other minorities? You can help by joining organizations and coalitions that facilitate minority voting. Contact your state and local officials, the ACLU, the League of Women Voters and they’ll give you the facts and guidance as to how you can help. --Join or volunteer in local organizations that advocate for civil rights. Support them with whatever funds you can afford. --If you’re surrounded daily by mostly white people who never hear the black perspective, widen your world – for example, visit a black church every now and then (if you’re a person of faith) and get to know some of the people there (who knows, you might even meet my mother; she’s the sweetie with the six violets on her church hat; and honestly, these black church people are fun). Are there black-owned business near you? Patronize those businesses and chat up the owners. Do you sometimes see black parents when there’s a school function? Approach them, introduce yourself, talk about children stuff, school stuff, whatever. Make an effort to get to know as many different black people as possible in your lives. --Do you have black friends? Call them. Don’t saddle them with how you’re feeling right now. You’re sad and angry at this moment? Trust me, they’re feeling worse. Just tell them you care about them and that you’re available if he/she needs you. --Be honest with your kids. Depending on their age, help them understand in terms that won’t confuse them that everybody in this country is not treated equally because of their skin color. I know that could be too abstract for some kids so just encourage them to befriend more children of color. Children are smart, sometimes smarter than adults, and in my experience they’re the ones who usually “get it.” --Don’t be afraid to speak up. If you see something unfair occurring right before your eyes and you know it’s racially-motivated, don’t go rushing to your social media. Say something right there and then and endeavor to intervene without endangering yourself. --Don't punish yourselves for feeling conflicted right now. That doesn't help anything. There’s nothing wrong with being dismayed about the violence currently happening. Any decent human being can be cognizant of the rage undergirding all this AND at the same time not condone the destruction of property. Feeling this way doesn’t make you insensitive and it doesn’t make you a racist. Fury isn’t even close to describing what I feel about the state-sanctioned killings and brutality toward blacks, but I am also saddened for the people who have to pick up the pieces afterwards and whose livelihoods have been destroyed. Yes, property can be replaced and dead people will remain dead. Yes, some of the damage was on high-end retail stores that may be able to easily recover, but I’ve seen plenty of small neighborhood businesses set on fire that are unlikely to have the resources to rebuild. We are fighting and clamoring against the savagery of too many officers; how could the solution be savagery in the destruction of communities? --Finally, understand that this is not just one moment. For some of us, racism has been a lifetime legacy. Whatever effort you put into helping requires a sustained commitment. So, commit. There'll be times (many) when you'll be discouraged. Just don't lose hope. And keep asking questions. This is great. Thank you.
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Post by gar on Jun 3, 2020 14:14:10 GMT
Great advice lizacreates, clear and easily transferable those of us in different countries etc too
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Post by flanz on Jun 3, 2020 22:33:34 GMT
Many thanks, lizacreates! You've created a fabulous list. Are you okay with my sharing it on FB or via email? If so, would you like any sort of attribution?
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 3, 2020 23:11:18 GMT
Many thanks, lizacreates ! You've created a fabulous list. Are you okay with my sharing it on FB or via email? If so, would you like any sort of attribution? Go for it, sister. No attribution necessary at all. Thank you. And Olan and gar...thanks for your kind words.
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Post by Olan on Jun 18, 2020 14:07:14 GMT
Any mamas available to continue to seek justice for Breonna Taylor? Her mother would love some help. abcnews.go.com/US/breonna-taylors-mom-seeking-answers-death-time-grieve/story?id=71184205Palmer said that when she arrived at the apartment, "the street was lined with police." She spoke to an officer there who told her she needed to get to the hospital, she said. However, after waiting in the hospital for two hours, she was told her daughter wasn't there and returned to the apartment. "When I got there … they told me to hold on, they'd get a detective over to talk to me, which they did," Palmer said. "It took a couple of hours. He comes over. He asked if I knew if Breonna or Kenny had any enemies or anybody that would want to hurt them. And of course, no, absolutely not." "And I'm asking, 'Where's Breonna? Where's Kenny?' And so, he tells me to hang tight. He'll be back," Palmer continued. "It was sometime later [that] he comes back. He asked if anything had been going on with Breonna and Kenny -- if they had problems. And I asked, 'Are you insinuating that Kenny did this?' Because he would never." Kimberlé Crenshaw, a law professor at the University of California Los Angeles and Columbia School of Law, says it's typical among black women to be involved in incidents like Taylor's. "When we think about where black women aren't safe, they're not safe in the only place they're supposed to be," Crenshaw said. "Black women typically get killed when police do raids." "No-knock warrants allow police officers, based on one of the lowest standards possible -- reasonableness -- to be able to knock down your door in the dead of night, plainclothes," she continued. "So, from your perspective, you think you're experiencing a home invasion." Police say they were looking for drugs, but none were found in the apartment. Also, the drug dealer they had been investigating had already been arrested earlier that evening. Walker was initially charged with attempted murder. His case was dropped. Meanwhile, none of the police involved in Taylor's death have been charged or arrested, and they remain on the job.
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Post by Olan on Jan 19, 2021 13:57:52 GMT
www.wdbj7.com/2021/01/16/breonna-taylors-attorneys-learn-of-new-body-camera-videos-the-city-refuses-to-produce/Louisville Metro Government is refusing to turn over at least 18 body camera videos, not previously disclosed of the events surrounding the Breonna Taylor case the night of the shooting, WAVE 3 News Troubleshooters have learned. The videos are from a list of LMPD officers who worked the scene on Elliott Avenue while Taylor’s ex-boyfriend, Jamarcus Glover, was being served with search warrants as part of a drug investigation. The list of videos in question are not believed to include any from the scene at Taylor’s apartment on Springfield Drive. According to Sam Aguiar, Taylor’s family attorney, the city admitted the additional body camera videos existed this Thursday, months after they did not disclose their existence in their response to Aguiar’s subpoena. That subpoena was filed in June 2020. It included a list of body camera videos from several officers. Aguiar believes they hold critical evidence about the case, including what officers were told about Taylor and Detective Jon Mattingly being shot.
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Post by Olan on Jan 23, 2021 1:38:50 GMT
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/22/us/kentucky-attorney-general-daniel-cameron-impeachment-petition/index.htmlThree former grand jurors are among the "concerned Kentucky citizens" petitioning the Kentucky Legislature to impeach state Attorney General Daniel Cameron, according to Kevin Glogower, one of the attorneys representing the petitioners. The citizens filed a petition Friday seeking the impeachment of Cameron on charges of "breach of public trust and failure to comply with duties for misrepresenting to the nation the findings of the Grand Jury" and "abuse of office and breach of duties of professional responsibility and ethics," both of which are connected to the lack of charges filed against the Louisville Metropolitan Police Department officers implicated in the death of Breonna Taylor in September.
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Post by luckyexwife on Apr 14, 2021 14:15:04 GMT
I'm not sure where to post this, but I read this this morning, and it left me speechless. I'm trying to do what I can, but I know I need to do more.
From new friend David Gray: "I need to drive my two-year-old to daycare tomorrow morning. To ensure we arrive alive, we won't take public transit (Oscar Grant). I removed all air fresheners from the vehicle and double-checked my registration status (Daunte Wright), and ensured my license plates were visible (Lt. Caron Nazario). I will be careful to follow all traffic rules (Philando Castille), signal every turn (Sandra Bland), keep the radio volume low (Jordan Davis), and won't stop at a fast food chain for a meal (Rayshard Brooks). I'm too afraid to pray (Rev. Clementa C. Pickney) so I just hope the car won't break down (Corey Jones). When my wife picks him up at the end of the day, I'll remind her not to dance (Elijah McClain), stop to play in a park (Tamir Rice), patronize the local convenience store for snacks (Trayvon Martin), or walk around the neighborhood (Mike Brown). Once they are home, we won't stand in our backyard (Stephon Clark), eat ice cream on the couch (Botham Jean), or play any video games (Atatiana Jefferson). After my wife and I tuck him into bed around 7:30pm, neither of us will leave the house to go to Walmart (John Crawford) or to the gym (Tshyrand Oates) or on a jog (Ahmaud Arbery). We won't even walk to see the birds (Christian Cooper). We'll just sit and try not to breathe (George Floyd) and not to sleep (Breonna Taylor)." These are things white people simply do not have to think about." -David Gray
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