snugglebutter
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Post by snugglebutter on Jun 8, 2020 18:23:23 GMT
"I'm proud of my president. I and my Bible stand by him. His picture was a profile in courage. You will be hard pressed to find a parallel photograph of a president in the 20th or 21st Century." Let's just concentrate on the 21st century; Bush consoling firefighters after 9/11 Bush consoling victims following Katrina Obama starring down Putin Obama consoling parents after Sandy Hook Obama consoling victims of Joplin tornado Obama visiting victims of Colorado Theatre shooting Obama walking Arlington Cemetery following Memorial Day address Oh hell, any pic of Obama on Pete Souza Insta Right? I could think of plenty of these where a president was being much more Christ-like in their actions than him in his little photo op.
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Post by lisaknits on Jun 8, 2020 18:49:21 GMT
Not to mention Jimmy Carter who still teaches Sunday Bible Class twice a month and volunteers for Habitat for Humanity.
edited to add, Although I'm not sure if this is still true since the Covid-19 pandemic.
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Post by Legacy Girl on Jun 9, 2020 4:44:41 GMT
This is why evangelicals think he's fantastic. They can justify everything because he is God's anointed. Or some shit like that. Copied/Pasted from some super religious conservative website I won't even link to. If you google "trump salty sailor" you can easily find it. Guest Opinion: Trump "The Salty Sailor" Wednesday, August 21, 2019 Read this once, pause for a minute or two to think honestly about it, then read it again. I can find no fault with it. The views this Guest opinion 4mother has about Donald Trump are much like many other people. Her characterization of Trump as the "Salty Sailor" or as “The Fireman” paint an excellent picture!! She has written many great books about her son and family. This is a Comment from KAREN VAUGHN, Mother of Aaron Vaughn, Navy Seal. Sometimes God uses the no-nonsense, salty sailor to get the job done. Appreciating what the man is doing doesn't mean we worship the salty sailor or even desire to be like the salty sailor. It doesn't even mean God admires the salty sailor. Maybe He just knows he's necessary for such a time as this. I believe with all my heart that God placed that salty sailor in the White House to give this nation one more chance in November 2016. Donald Trump is what he is – and he is still the man he was before the election – and without guilt. I very much admire what that salty sailor is accomplishing. He's not like me. That's okay with me. I don't want to be like him. I will never behave like him. I know we've NEVER had a man like him lead our nation before. It's crazy and a little mind-blowing at times. But I can't help admire the stamina and ability he has – acting with his heart rather than a calculated, PC, think tank-screened, carefully edited script. I still believe that is WHY he became our President and WHY he's been able to handle a landslide of adversity and STILL pass unprecedented amounts of good legislation for our country AND do great works for MANY other nations, including Israel. I'm THRILLED with what he's doing for my nation, for the cause of Christ (whether intentional or unintentional, doesn't matter to me), and for the concept of rebuilding America and putting her FIRST. I will not be ashamed of my position because others don't see him through the same lens. Should it matter to me if a fireman drops an f-bomb while he's pulling me from a burning building? Would I really care about what came out of his mouth in those moments? Heck no! I'd CARE about what he was DOING. He wasn't sent there to save my soul and I'm not looking to him for spiritual guidance. All I'm thinking in those moments is, "Thank you, GOD, for sending the fireman.” AND DONALD TRUMP IS OUR FIREMAN. I'll soon post this article again for those who still might not understand me. This man is crass. Okay. He's not careful with what he says. Okay. You feel offended that he's not a typical statesman. Okay. But he is DOING THE JOB of rebuilding the nation my son died for... the nation I feared was on a fast track to becoming a hopeless cause. Forgive me if I'm smiling." Written by KAREN VAUGHN What the everloving hell. And because once you've gotten an image in your head, it's hard to stop the laughter... Salty Sailor
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Post by sam9 on Jun 9, 2020 14:01:20 GMT
Re The Salty Sailor: If Mr. Trump is the best that God could come up with to get the job done, I would be both unimpressed and very scared if I was a believer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 15:42:40 GMT
I guess even most Americans (though not most Republicans) aren't stupid enough to fall for this craven bible-propping.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 10, 2020 16:38:45 GMT
I guess even most Americans (though not most Republicans) aren't stupid enough to fall for this craven bible-propping. unfortunately, I think it doesn't matter- only 27% of Americans questioned in that poll see trump as a man of faith? his faithful base doesn't care, as long as he's doing the things they want,and he says the things they want to hear.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 10, 2020 16:44:24 GMT
Not to mention Jimmy Carter who still teaches Sunday Bible Class twice a month and volunteers for Habitat for Humanity. edited to add, Although I'm not sure if this is still true since the Covid-19 pandemic. I didn't care for Carter as president but as a human he is top of the line.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 10, 2020 18:45:39 GMT
"I'm proud of my president. I and my Bible stand by him. His picture was a profile in courage. You will be hard pressed to find a parallel photograph of a president in the 20th or 21st Century." Let's just concentrate on the 21st century; Bush consoling firefighters after 9/11 Bush consoling victims following Katrina Obama starring down Putin Obama consoling parents after Sandy Hook Obama consoling victims of Joplin tornado Obama visiting victims of Colorado Theatre shooting Obama walking Arlington Cemetery following Memorial Day address Oh hell, any pic of Obama on Pete Souza Insta Obama hugging Donna Vanzant after superstorm Sandy
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 10, 2020 21:45:29 GMT
A friend of mine posted this 2 days ago and frankly I am speechless. I can't believe she considers me and those who are not in support of Trump to represent Satan and darkness combating the light. How would you respond if someone posted this?
"Sharing this post from a well respected pastor and family member:
In the midst of a feverish attack on President Donald Trump, Carlo Maria Viganò - Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana and Former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America, wrote a letter to our President.
“Mr. President, in recent months we have been witnessing the formation of two opposing sides that I would call Biblical: the children of light and the children of darkness.... Yet the former are the object of a sort of discrimination which places them in a situation of moral inferiority with respect to their adversaries, who often hold strategic positions in government, in politics, in the economy and in the media. In an apparently inexplicable way, the good are held hostage by the wicked and by those who help them either out of self-interest or fearfulness.
These two sides, which have a Biblical nature, follow the clear separation between the offspring of the Woman and the offspring of the Serpent. On the one hand there are those who, although they have a thousand defects and weaknesses, are motivated by the desire to do good, to be honest, to raise a family, to engage in work, to give prosperity to their homeland, to help the needy, and, in obedience to the Law of God, to merit the Kingdom of Heaven. On the other hand, there are those who serve themselves, who do not hold any moral principles, who want to demolish the family and the nation, exploit workers to make themselves unduly wealthy, foment internal divisions and wars, and accumulate power and money: for them the fallacious illusion of temporal well-being will one day – if they do not repent – yield to the terrible fate that awaits them, far from God, in eternal damnation.
In society, Mr. President, these two opposing realities co-exist as eternal enemies, just as God and Satan are eternal enemies. And it appears that the children of darkness – whom we may easily identify with the deep state which you wisely oppose and which is fiercely waging war against you in these days – have decided to show their cards, so to speak, by now revealing their plans. They seem to be so certain of already having everything under control that they have laid aside that circumspection that until now had at least partially concealed their true intentions. The investigations already under way will reveal the true responsibility of those who managed the Covid emergency not only in the area of health care but also in politics, the economy, and the media. We will probably find that in this colossal operation of social engineering there are people who have decided the fate of humanity, arrogating to themselves the right to act against the will of citizens and their representatives in the governments of nations.
We will also discover that the riots in these days were provoked by those who, seeing that the virus is inevitably fading and that the social alarm of the pandemic is waning, necessarily have had to provoke civil disturbances, because they would be followed by repression which, although legitimate, could be condemned as an unjustified aggression against the population. The same thing is also happening in Europe, in perfect synchrony. It is quite clear that the use of street protests is instrumental to the purposes of those who would like to see someone elected in the upcoming presidential elections who embodies the goals of the deep state and who expresses those goals faithfully and with conviction. It will not be surprising if, in a few months, we learn once again that hidden behind these acts of vandalism and violence there are those who hope to profit from the dissolution of the social order so as to build a world without freedom: Solve et Coagula, as the Masonic adage teaches.
Although it may seem disconcerting, the opposing alignments I have described are also found in religious circles. There are faithful Shepherds who care for the flock of Christ, but there are also mercenary infidels who seek to scatter the flock and hand the sheep over to be devoured by ravenous wolves. It is not surprising that these mercenaries are allies of the children of darkness and hate the children of light: just as there is a deep state, there is also a deep church that betrays its duties and forswears its proper commitments before God. Thus the Invisible Enemy, whom good rulers fight against in public affairs, is also fought against by good shepherds in the ecclesiastical sphere. It is a spiritual battle…
For the first time, the United States has in you a President who courageously defends the right to life, who is not ashamed to denounce the persecution of Christians throughout the world, who speaks of Jesus Christ and the right of citizens to freedom of worship. Your participation in the March for Life, and more recently your proclamation of the month of April as National Child Abuse Prevention Month, are actions that confirm which side you wish to fight on. And I dare to believe that both of us are on the same side in this battle, albeit with different weapons.
For this reason, I believe that the attack to which you were subjected after your visit to the National Shrine of Saint John Paul II is part of the orchestrated media narrative which seeks not to fight racism and bring social order, but to aggravate dispositions; not to bring justice, but to legitimize violence and crime; not to serve the truth, but to favor one political faction. And it is disconcerting that there are Bishops – such as those whom I recently denounced – who, by their words, prove that they are aligned on the opposing side. They are subservient to the deep state, to globalism, to aligned thought, to the New World Order which they invoke ever more frequently in the name of a universal brotherhood which has nothing Christian about it, but which evokes the Masonic ideals of those want to dominate the world by driving God out of the courts, out of schools, out of families, and perhaps even out of churches.
The American people are mature and have now understood how much the mainstream media does not want to spread the truth but seeks to silence and distort it, spreading the lie that is useful for the purposes of their masters. However, it is important that the good – who are the majority – wake up from their sluggishness and do not accept being deceived by a minority of dishonest people with unavowable purposes. It is necessary that the good, the children of light, come together and make their voices heard. What more effective way is there to do this, Mr. President, than by prayer, asking the Lord to protect you, the United States, and all of humanity from this enormous attack of the Enemy? Before the power of prayer, the deceptions of the children of darkness will collapse, their plots will be revealed, their betrayal will be shown, their frightening power will end in nothing, brought to light and exposed for what it is: an infernal deception.
Mr. President, my prayer is constantly turned to the beloved American nation, where I had the privilege and honor of being sent by Pope Benedict XVI as Apostolic Nuncio. In this dramatic and decisive hour for all of humanity, I am praying for you and also for all those who are at your side in the government of the United States. I trust that the American people are united with me and you in prayer to Almighty God.
United against the Invisible Enemy of all humanity, I bless you and the First Lady, the beloved American nation, and all men and women of good will.”
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Post by gar on Jun 10, 2020 22:30:22 GMT
I don’t think Trump could/would read something that long.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 10, 2020 23:21:26 GMT
"Sharing this post from a well respected pastor and family member: In the midst of a feverish attack on President Donald Trump, Carlo Maria Viganò - Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana and Former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America, wrote a letter to our President. I had to look this up to even see if it was a real place! it is... it's an ancient Roman city in what is now Kosovo. Other than that, *I* don't even want to read this drivel. Your friend shared this letter 'from a well-respected pastor and family member' huh? your friend has family members high up in the church, I guess... lol. Honestly, after reading the Wikipedia article about this guy, he's very hardline anti-gay, and I'm guessing he has an axe to grind with Pope Francis in church politics, or something-- because didn't Pope Francis publicly side with the protesters?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 23:41:41 GMT
although they have a thousand defects and weaknesses, are motivated by the desire to do good, to be honest, to raise a family, to engage in work, to give prosperity to their homeland, to help the needy, and, in obedience to the Law of God, to merit the Kingdom of Heaven Let's break that down. are motivated by the desire to do good - valid to be honest - valid to raise a family - irrelevant - why is that important to being a good person!!?!??! to engage in work - irrelevant - how about the old, the unable to work??!?!? to give prosperity to their homeland - ish to help the needy - valid in obedience to the Law of God - irrelevant unless you believe in God - which has NOTHING to do w/being a good person to merit the Kingdom of Heaven - irrelevant - see above They'll never learn that not the whole world cares about their particular book of stories and rules. Stay on the - help people, be kind, etc. Focus on PEOPLE not on unprovable, divisive "gods".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 14:08:07 GMT
Trump's showmanship is now backfiring on him "President's Donald Trump's showmanship is failing him as fears mount of a new spike in coronavirus infections and after another shooting of an African American man raised new questions about police brutality. Instead of addressing such questions directly, Trump is grasping for made-for-TV moments designed to enhance his personal aura -- a device he has used to some effect in his presidency but that is now emphasizing his disconnect with many Americans and struggles to manage crises besieging the White House. The President's television producer's eye leads him to seek dramatic tableaus that create his preferred image of himself -- strong, defiant, tearing down establishment structures and trampling the normal etiquette of the presidency... The President's now notorious march to an iconic church in Washington, DC's Lafayette Square, after protesters were forcibly ejected, was meant to project strength to his supporters, but turned into an emblem of his mismanagement of the George Floyd protests and severely strained his relationship with current and former military brass. A high iron fence erected around the White House then turned into a symbol of the President's disconnect with changes sweeping the nation. Trump's instincts throughout the aftermath of Floyd's death with a police officer's knee on his neck have been to leverage the situation to advance his own political prospects -- rather than to cool tensions and seek national reconciliation. Over the weekend, for instance, he pounced on Major League Soccer's policy of backing the rights of its players to protest during the National Anthem." www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/politics/trump-white-house-showmanship-backfiring/index.html
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 14:53:01 GMT
Michigan pollster: Trump’s Bible photo op caused immediate drop in support " President Donald Trump’s support among Michigan voters took a sharp dive in polls taken immediately after protesters were forcefully removed so Trump could have his photo taken holding a Bible outside a historic church. Two surveys of Michigan voters taken by Lansing polling firm EPIC-MRA found a widening gap between Trump and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden after protests against police brutality began outside the White House and across the country. One poll conducted from May 30 to June 3 found Biden leading by 12 percentage points, but the second poll, which started and ended just one day later, recorded a 16-point lead for the former vice president. EPIC-MRA pollster Bernie Porn attributed the quick drop to public backlash and negative press resulting from Trump’s staged photo on June 1. The two polls collected responses from separate samples of 600 likely Michigan voters and both had a 4% margin of error." www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/06/michigan-pollster-trumps-bible-photo-op-caused-immediate-drop-in-support.htmlI guess people aren't as gullible as Trump takes them for.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 18, 2020 15:29:36 GMT
Michigan pollster: Trump’s Bible photo op caused immediate drop in support " President Donald Trump’s support among Michigan voters took a sharp dive in polls taken immediately after protesters were forcefully removed so Trump could have his photo taken holding a Bible outside a historic church. Two surveys of Michigan voters taken by Lansing polling firm EPIC-MRA found a widening gap between Trump and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden after protests against police brutality began outside the White House and across the country. One poll conducted from May 30 to June 3 found Biden leading by 12 percentage points, but the second poll, which started and ended just one day later, recorded a 16-point lead for the former vice president. EPIC-MRA pollster Bernie Porn attributed the quick drop to public backlash and negative press resulting from Trump’s staged photo on June 1. The two polls collected responses from separate samples of 600 likely Michigan voters and both had a 4% margin of error." www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/06/michigan-pollster-trumps-bible-photo-op-caused-immediate-drop-in-support.htmlI guess people aren't as gullible as Trump takes them for. he should do more stupid shit then
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 15:32:23 GMT
Michigan pollster: Trump’s Bible photo op caused immediate drop in support " President Donald Trump’s support among Michigan voters took a sharp dive in polls taken immediately after protesters were forcefully removed so Trump could have his photo taken holding a Bible outside a historic church. Two surveys of Michigan voters taken by Lansing polling firm EPIC-MRA found a widening gap between Trump and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden after protests against police brutality began outside the White House and across the country. One poll conducted from May 30 to June 3 found Biden leading by 12 percentage points, but the second poll, which started and ended just one day later, recorded a 16-point lead for the former vice president. EPIC-MRA pollster Bernie Porn attributed the quick drop to public backlash and negative press resulting from Trump’s staged photo on June 1. The two polls collected responses from separate samples of 600 likely Michigan voters and both had a 4% margin of error." www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/06/michigan-pollster-trumps-bible-photo-op-caused-immediate-drop-in-support.htmlI guess people aren't as gullible as Trump takes them for. he should do more stupid shit then He does his best to comply every day!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 18, 2020 16:15:04 GMT
he should do more stupid shit then oh, he will- just wait! (you won't have to wait long, I'm sure.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 13:06:32 GMT
Jeffress went on Fox to praise the bible-prop-photo-op, even though even evangelicals were aghast at the blatant opportunism and crassness of the stunt.
"… I want to tell you something. Yes, there’s been a little softening in evangelical support, just a little bit, but that’s temporary. When evangelicals begin focusing on this election after Labor Day, and they compare President Trump’s solid accomplishments in the pro-life, pro-religious liberty, pro-Israel, pro-conservative judiciary arenas — When they compare that to Joe Biden’s absolute commitment to undo every one of those accomplishments, I predict evangelicals will turn out by even greater numbers for President Trump than they did in 2016....
The left wants nothing but anarchy. They are enemies of faith"
Millions of people on the left are religious, including Democratic politicians, pastors, and voters. Truth don’t matter to Jeffress. I wonder how his god would feel about that.
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Post by sam9 on Jun 27, 2020 13:32:41 GMT
I believe in the concept of separation of church and state. I could not live with all that righteous interference.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 28, 2020 15:26:41 GMT
IMO, Jeffress is a media whore as big as DT.
Why on earth the media go to him for a "religious quote" is beyond my comprehension. He preaches hate from the pulpit (google his sermons about hating Jews and gays).
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Post by pierogi on Jun 28, 2020 15:43:02 GMT
IMO, Jeffress is a media whore as big as DT. Why on earth the media go to him for a "religious quote" is beyond my comprehension. He preaches hate from the pulpit (google his sermons about hating Jews and gays). The media goes to him because he has Trump’s ear.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 28, 2020 16:01:26 GMT
I love how this is being twisted into a faith vs anarchy dualism. The amount of religiosity is what has always made and will continue to make the US nowhere near as progressive as them proud 'Muricans #TRUMP2020 think their country is. There are no other first world countries where religious books are being carried around during political campaigns like Paris Hilton carrying one of her chihuahuas back in 2006. I keep being haunted by the fact that it's all one big storyline to precipitate the return of Jesus to Earth and how it all intertwines with Israel and whatnot. It's Da Vinci code stuff to me and all the people I know IRL. This isn't Donny catering to the Christians, this is him clearly signalling to a particular and powerful segment of American Christians that he's the catalyst for the Big Plan. In the name of Anubis, I'll take Paris Hilton over Trump any day of the week. 
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