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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 17, 2020 1:10:57 GMT
I was reading on another thread where it was mentioned about dog groomers expressing anal glands.
Is it common for groomers to express a dog's anal glands? In fact, is it even routine for vets to express anal glands? I have only had two dogs in my life, so my experience is somewhat limited. But neither of my dogs, in 18 years of dog ownership, have ever had their anal glands expressed. When I first read about it here at 2 Peas a number of years ago, I asked some of my friends who have dogs, and none of them have ever had it done to their dogs either.
I would be curious to know whether this is routine, and if so, why. Or do you only get it done if there is a problem. Maybe it differs from country to country. And maybe it is more likely to be required to be done for certain breeds and not others? My dogs have been a Bichon Frise and a Cavoodle.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 17, 2020 1:17:25 GMT
I have never ever had this done to any of my dogs
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Post by curiouscrafter on Jun 17, 2020 1:19:26 GMT
My groomer usually does it, but during the SIP when they were closed, we had to take the dogs to the vet for nail clipping and they said they would do anal glands as well. We said okay. The vet technician then said they were extremely full and asked when was the last time we did it. When we told her it has been about 6 weeks from the groomer, she said the groomers express anal glands from the outside, where to get a good expression (?) you have to do it from the inside. We didn't get into the nitty-gritty of expressing glands, but it sounded like doing it from the outside doesn't empty the glands completely. Why they need to be done, unsure. What could happen if they aren't done, unsure.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 17, 2020 1:21:31 GMT
I think it might depend on the breed.
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Post by peano on Jun 17, 2020 1:26:05 GMT
I was surprised to hear people have groomers do this. I had always had the vet do it. I've only had one dog with issues, my current dog, and she's only been expressed once. So I wouldn't call it routine, but more like some dogs have issues and some don't. I don't know about the breed thing. Posie's a mixed breed.
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Post by kluski on Jun 17, 2020 1:26:46 GMT
I never had a dog that needed gland attention either. I thought it was a small dog issue and we always had big dogs. However, our last love was part Rottweiler and part Newfoundland who blew her anal gland out twice before we were smart enough to notice her signs that her glands were full and needed to be expressed. I can not over emphasize how gross a whole in her gland/butt area and how obviously painful it was for her. Blood and fluid everywhere. We had to wash the area with medicated soap to keep it clean until it healed. Again, it took us two times. Terrible dog parents that allowed it to happen twice. We considered having it removed but like I said, we figured out her warning signs and were more regimented about getting them expressed.
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Post by mich5481 on Jun 17, 2020 1:31:57 GMT
My yellow lab was my first dog who ever had them expressed. I now tell the vet to express them if they need it. One time, they were going to express the glands of my Shih Tzu, but apparently she let them loose before they did it (and it happened to get all over the vet tech! 😳).
That same Shih Tzu got an infection in her anal glands during quarantine, so that's been lovely to deal with. 🤢😭
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 17, 2020 1:33:08 GMT
It does depend on the breed. We never had to have it done for any of our smooth coated dogs but we did/do have to have it done for our poodles. For some reason, the dogs that don’t shed have more problems with the glands getting blocked and when that happens they can get infected and/or even burst which is painful for the dog and disgusting for you.
My last poodle that I had 20 years ago had one burst and it was so gross. The stuff that comes out is horrifically putrid smelling, the dog had to have antibiotics and also needed salve put on his butt while the gland healed.
With my current poodle, she had a slight problem with it once when we first had taken her to the groomer (probably because I forgot to tell them NOT to do it) and our vet told us to just have them do it because they will do it from the inside.
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Post by mnmloveli on Jun 17, 2020 1:38:38 GMT
My neighbor has a golden retriever that has had his expresssed about 3 or 4 times in 7 years. After the first time, he learned the signs so he catches it early (swelling, itching, redness). His last Golden never had an issue in 16 years.
He usually takes his dog to the vet to have it done; it can be very messy and smelly. I’ve heard some people learn to do it themselves, but unless you really learn the dog’s anatomy, I wouldn’t want to be pressing in the wrong place and causing extra pain.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 17, 2020 1:52:18 GMT
It does depend on the breed. We never had to have it done for any of our smooth coated dogs but we did/do have to have it done for our poodles. For some reason, the dogs that don’t shed have more problems with the glands getting blocked and when that happens they can get infected and/or even burst which is painful for the dog and disgusting for you. I guess I should consider myself lucky then.  It sounds awful! Both of my dogs have been non-shedders and I haven't had to get it done. Neither has my friend who has had toy poodles for the last 20+ years. She's getting another poodle in October (her sweet dog passed away recently) so I will mention it to her again. It might be something to look out for.
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Post by scrapulous on Jun 17, 2020 2:01:00 GMT
My understanding is that some dogs know how to express their own glands, and some do not. I can tell when one of my dogs is expressing her glands. I hate the noise, but at least she gets it done! My other dog doesn’t seem to do it for herself, but the groomer does it. I’ve never had to tell any groomer to do it, they just automatically do it as part of their routine.
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Post by katybee on Jun 17, 2020 2:17:12 GMT
Butt-scooting is sometimes a sign that anal glands are full or compacted. My shitzu’s anal glands used to get compacted, even though the groomer always did it. Like someone else said, the vet can do a more thorough job. It’s definitely more common in smaller breeds, and a healthy, high fiber diet can prevent impacted glands.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 17, 2020 2:23:45 GMT
It does depend on the breed. We never had to have it done for any of our smooth coated dogs but we did/do have to have it done for our poodles. For some reason, the dogs that don’t shed have more problems with the glands getting blocked and when that happens they can get infected and/or even burst which is painful for the dog and disgusting for you. I guess I should consider myself lucky then.  It sounds awful! Both of my dogs have been non-shedders and I haven't had to get it done. Neither has my friend who has had toy poodles for the last 20+ years. She's getting another poodle in October (her sweet dog passed away recently) so I will mention it to her again. It might be something to look out for. When you see them scooting their butt across the carpet or the lawn, that’s a big red flag that they’re trying to unblock it themselves.
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Post by kkrenn on Jun 17, 2020 2:32:31 GMT
My boy's groomer does it and they do it at the vet on his yearly check up. He is a Havenese just FYI.
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Post by maryland on Jun 17, 2020 2:49:56 GMT
I have had 2 dogs and have never heard of this.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 17, 2020 2:52:54 GMT
I guess I should consider myself lucky then.  It sounds awful! Both of my dogs have been non-shedders and I haven't had to get it done. Neither has my friend who has had toy poodles for the last 20+ years. She's getting another poodle in October (her sweet dog passed away recently) so I will mention it to her again. It might be something to look out for. When you see them scooting their butt across the carpet or the lawn, that’s a big red flag that they’re trying to unblock it themselves. Interestingly, the only time I've seen my dog scoot is immediately after being groomed. Like, as soon as the groomer brings him back inside. (Our groomer is a friend who has a mobile grooming van.) I just googled and the article says one of the reasons for scooting is: I've never seen him scoot any other times. Fingers crossed I don't have to ever get the anal glands unblocked!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 17, 2020 3:29:18 GMT
we've never had issues with this, thank goodness. and crossing-my-fingers that we never do! blech! we've had 5 Shelties altogether, and I've only seen one scoot, ever- I think he had a dingleberry of poo that he was trying to get loose... he was scooting on gravel, which IMO isn't quite the smartest idea, lol.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Jun 17, 2020 3:31:06 GMT
The only dog we've had that's needed his glands expressed is our chug. A vet tech does it at his annual checkup and out vet said it's very common for pugs to have anal gland issues, especially when they are *coughcoughfatcoughcough* bigger boned. If he needs it again during the year our groomer, who is also a licensed vet tech, does it when he gets his mani pedi. He scoots and the streak marks let me know when it's time 
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 17, 2020 3:34:37 GMT
It does depend on the breed. We never had to have it done for any of our smooth coated dogs but we did/do have to have it done for our poodles. For some reason, the dogs that don’t shed have more problems with the glands getting blocked and when that happens they can get infected and/or even burst which is painful for the dog and disgusting for you. My last poodle that I had 20 years ago had one burst and it was so gross. The stuff that comes out is horrifically putrid smelling, the dog had to have antibiotics and also needed salve put on his butt while the gland healed. With my current poodle, she had a slight problem with it once when we first had taken her to the groomer (probably because I forgot to tell them NOT to do it) and our vet told us to just have them do it because they will do it from the inside. That explains it. My dog sheds enough per week that I could make a new dog.
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Post by leslie132 on Jun 17, 2020 3:44:29 GMT
I started the other thread so I will say I asked my vet if we need to bring our dog in or can the groomer do it. Her reply was “we are glad to do it for you, the groomer can do it or we can even show you how to do it in your own at home”. I gave a hard no to the final option!!!
My friend has a retriever. Her dog had anal gland issues that were extreme. It filled in a weekly basis. She had to have surgery in her dog to have it removed. It is the worst god awful smell there is. For those unaware of what this is....give thanks!
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 17, 2020 3:46:36 GMT
At our last vet visit, they brought my pup out during a routine visit and told me that my male had very full glands. They expressed them. He hadn't shown any of the signs I knew about, but I had noticed his poop was smaller and that several times he switched positions and yelped even though no one touched him. I was a little worried that he had something more serious going on. After the appointment, I noticed that his poop was back to normal and he hasn't yelped. We don't take them to the groomer, but I know the vet checks them at their yearly appointment. I've never had a dog need this before and I have pups for 30 years. We go back again after 3 months to see if they are okay. Ugh. Poor pup.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 3:46:42 GMT
Never had a dog with this problem. The butt scooting they did is when they had worms.
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Post by Jili on Jun 17, 2020 3:47:40 GMT
When I was a teen we had miniature schnauzer, and I remember this being a consistent issue with her. She’d start scooting across the floor. I can’t remember who did the expressing, but it was probably a combination of the groomer (who was also the breeder) and the vet. She saw the groomer more often, but the vet was just a walk up the street.
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Post by hannahruth on Jun 17, 2020 9:02:29 GMT
My boy's groomer does it and they do it at the vet on his yearly check up. He is a Havenese just FYI. Our boy is a Maltese and is checked by the groomer but recently he had an anal gland abscess which obviously the vet had to treat but we have had dogs all our married life (48 years) and have never had to do anything with any of the others. Checked out Google and it is something that most dogs 'do' themselves! Sounds disgusting to do so I will continue to leave it to those that know what they are doing.
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Post by Dallie on Jun 17, 2020 10:58:08 GMT
Of the four dogs we had in the past few years, three of them needed to have it done regularly: toy poodle-bichon mix, miniature poodle, and shih tzu mix. The dogs booty scoot when it is time, about every four weeks. The Lhasa only needs it done occasionally and has never booty scooted. All are non-shedding.
My family's experience in Florida is that some vets do it and others refer you to a groomer. If it is done separately and not part of a groom, it costs $15 plus tax and tip.
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Post by azcrafty on Jun 30, 2020 12:28:36 GMT
My dog needs his glands milked about every 4-6 weeks. He starts licking his ass like crazy, almost in a panicky way. After a few times to the vet office I asked the vet technician that I want to watch the process and she asked me if i want to learn it because she is happy to teach me. So since than I'm the one who is doing it. I'm a trained nurse so it doesn't gross me out. But I'm saving almost $40. I cook for my dog so I'm happier to spend that money on the food.
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Post by carhoch on Jun 30, 2020 13:14:30 GMT
If there gland are not impacted there exactly zero reason to do it .
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Post by heckofagal on Jun 30, 2020 18:56:42 GMT
We have a Morkie (Maltese/Yorkie mix) and she has problems expressing her anal glands. She would normally get them done at the groomer, but one time it seemed like she was having issues shortly after her grooming appt so I called to make sure they expressed them and I was told the groomer will do it externally but the vet can do a more thorough job by doing it internally. In between grooming visits she would have moments when she would 'skunk' us. HORRIBLE smell! She also acts as though having them full is uncomfortable. Our vet told us that dogs normally express them themselves with their bowel movements and in fact we changed our pups food to give her more fiber to see if that helped. Probably helped some, but still an issue. Since the pandemic I did not like the way our groomer was trying to retrieve pets to bring them in for their grooming appt, and I learned that our vet had a groomer on site a few days per week so this last time I took her there and will probably continue to do so. One of the vet techs told me she had to do her dog once a week. 
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Post by jenr on Jun 30, 2020 21:21:38 GMT
My groomer usually does it, but during the SIP when they were closed, we had to take the dogs to the vet for nail clipping and they said they would do anal glands as well. We said okay. The vet technician then said they were extremely full and asked when was the last time we did it. When we told her it has been about 6 weeks from the groomer, she said the groomers express anal glands from the outside, where to get a good expression (?) you have to do it from the inside. We didn't get into the nitty-gritty of expressing glands, but it sounded like doing it from the outside doesn't empty the glands completely. Why they need to be done, unsure. What could happen if they aren't done, unsure. My knowledge is on par with what curiouscrafter says above. Our groomer doesn't do it, but there's a kennel/different groomer near to our house that will, for just $12. Our sheepadoodle went through a period where he needed it done (just externally) every 3 months, but now hasn't needed it since January. I don't have any idea why that is.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 30, 2020 22:07:32 GMT
I don't even know what this means.. I have never had a dog that needs this.. I don't think.... sounds gross. (I have not read the thread yet.. I am guessing I am going to learn something)
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