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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 15, 2020 22:21:07 GMT
Her images have so many watermarks/protections it makes me laugh... way better designers don't do that with their products. I assumed it was because she's so annoyed with Ali Express knockoffs, but it also might be a way to hide from image searches performed by large corps trying to enforce their copyright. Not that I care about Lara's business much but the many watermarks are coming to all indie designers. Just check the new Everyday Explorers stamp set mockups. With Christine (Everyday Explorers) finding most of her recent stamp sets on the website, she joins the Swiss cheese watermark brigade although she's now experimenting with different angles + actually stamping out the stamps instead of using digi mockups. The blatant copyright infringement is a bigger issue among indepent stamp designers in general. I love Kelly Purkey but she's been guilty of doing exactly this for years. Her only luck is that for some reason, despite being one of the most successful indie designers, her designs remained off AX. I wouldn't go as far as putting the tin foil hat on for designers doing the heavy watermark stuff.
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Post by mich5481 on Jul 15, 2020 22:36:13 GMT
Her images have so many watermarks/protections it makes me laugh... way better designers don't do that with their products. I assumed it was because she's so annoyed with Ali Express knockoffs, but it also might be a way to hide from image searches performed by large corps trying to enforce their copyright. Not that I care about Lara's business much but the many watermarks are coming to all indie designers. Just check the new Everyday Explorers stamp set mockups. With Christine (Everyday Explorers) finding most of her recent stamp sets on the website, she joins the Swiss cheese watermark brigade although she's now experimenting with different angles + actually stamping out the stamps instead of using digi mockups. The blatant copyright infringement is a bigger issue among indepent stamp designers in general. I love Kelly Purkey but she's been guilty of doing exactly this for years. Her only luck is that for some reason, despite being one of the most successful indie designers, her designs remained off AX. I wouldn't go as far as putting the tin foil hat on for designers doing the heavy watermark stuff. Yeah, I noticed Feed Your Craft has it on their new stamp designs too.
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Post by mich5481 on Jul 15, 2020 22:42:59 GMT
Ok, so I don't know how to add a screenshot on here, but on January 19th of this year, Lara posted about obtaining licenses for "fan art" - my apologies for mixing it up with actual approval from Disney.
It's in the Roadies group - easiest way to find it is to search for "license" within the group.
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Post by lasteve1 on Jul 16, 2020 0:33:32 GMT
Her images have so many watermarks/protections it makes me laugh... way better designers don't do that with their products. I assumed it was because she's so annoyed with Ali Express knockoffs, but it also might be a way to hide from image searches performed by large corps trying to enforce their copyright. Not that I care about Lara's business much but the many watermarks are coming to all indie designers. Just check the new Everyday Explorers stamp set mockups. With Christine (Everyday Explorers) finding most of her recent stamp sets on the website, she joins the Swiss cheese watermark brigade although she's now experimenting with different angles + actually stamping out the stamps instead of using digi mockups. The blatant copyright infringement is a bigger issue among indepent stamp designers in general. I love Kelly Purkey but she's been guilty of doing exactly this for years. Her only luck is that for some reason, despite being one of the most successful indie designers, her designs remained off AX. I wouldn't go as far as putting the tin foil hat on for designers doing the heavy watermark stuff. For sure about the copyright infringement... this is not just Lara. Like I said earlier, KP is one of the most blatant violators and I know SC has done it before as well... I'm sure others. I just thought it was especially hypocritical of Lara to attack people for buying her stamps off AX when she was guilty of copyright infringement herself. Yeah I noticed some other designers doing the watermarks too, that's not that odd. What really made me think Lara's protections were a little more intense was the blocked off half images where she just types out what the rest of the stamps say in the description, you can't even see the full image. I just found her extra steps to protect the images to be more intense than I'd seen from any other brand. For the record, I totally support and understand artists trying to protect their images and wanting to keep them off AX. But I also think they shouldn't be violating the copyrights of larger companies.
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Post by jediannie on Jul 16, 2020 1:04:37 GMT
She said she's done this the "legal way" when asked in her facebook group a few months ago (the baby Yoda stuff raised serious alarms to me because you can't utter anything remotely Disney without them sending a cease & desist. So yeah, she a knock-off artist for sure is my point. I appreciate her stepping up and trying to stop people from buying knockoffs from Aliexpress but her very aggressive tactics make those who she attacks completely discredit her as a bully and mean girl and don’t take her seriously, plus the people she targets don’t give a rip because they wants cheap crap and won’t change their minds. I have already said my piece about the initial topic of this thread, but I just have to say something else about Lara and her hypocrisy… I totally get not wanting to have people buy cheap knock offs from Ali Express of your work, plus they are stealing your intellectual property to create the cheap knock offs, BUT... LARA DOES THE SAME EXACT THING. She has multiple stamps in her shop that directly violate the intellectual property of other entities... namely all the Friends TV show logo and icons!? There were other TV shows as well... probably other things, I didn't look too closely. It is beyond hypocritical to call someone out for stealing your "intellectual property" that you actually stole from someone else!!!
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Post by joblackford on Jul 16, 2020 4:29:44 GMT
She said she's done this the "legal way" when asked in her facebook group a few months ago (the baby Yoda stuff raised serious alarms to me because you can't utter anything remotely Disney without them sending a cease & desist. So yeah, she a knock-off artist for sure is my point. I have already said my piece about the initial topic of this thread, but I just have to say something else about Lara and her hypocrisy… I totally get not wanting to have people buy cheap knock offs from Ali Express of your work, plus they are stealing your intellectual property to create the cheap knock offs, BUT... LARA DOES THE SAME EXACT THING. She has multiple stamps in her shop that directly violate the intellectual property of other entities... namely all the Friends TV show logo and icons!? There were other TV shows as well... probably other things, I didn't look too closely. It is beyond hypocritical to call someone out for stealing your "intellectual property" that you actually stole from someone else!!! “The legal way” probably means that she thinks she’s producing fan art - fair use. She isn’t licensing the stuff - there’s nothing to show that she got the permission of the intellectual property owner. She’s not naming names so I’d say she’s definitely trying to fly under the IP radar. It’s hard to say whether Disney and whoever owns Friends would agree with her interpretation that this is fair use. I’m not sure that we consumers would actually want these IP rules enforced too strongly - I like being able to buy fan art interpretations of popular characters. But anyway... that’s what I think she meant by doing it “the legal way.”
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Post by oaksong on Jul 16, 2020 6:25:43 GMT
I ran across this group just tonight. As a former member of Two Peas I have to say I was at first excited then you showed me your true colors You people are the nastiest, meanest mob mentality I've ever seen with the exception of Trump supporters. Talk about judgmental. Wow wow wow. You should all be ashamed. If not I'm ashamed on your behalf I’ve been watching this all unfold without commenting, but I had to join in at this point to welcome back an old pea, who just happened to “run across” our group and this particular thread. Hand slapping right out of the gate. Gotta love the drama! Sounds like you have a dog in this fight. Come on, spill the tea!
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Post by amidwestkingdom on Jul 16, 2020 7:15:52 GMT
Oh my, there is no BLM alliance in this drama. The mission has been overshadowed by privilege. I don’t know what the truth is, but EGO has totally taken over the cause. It seems as if both sides are more concerned about being right vs. getting allyship right. I’m sure both did something they may regret and the best thing they can both do is take a breath, reassess, apologize to their customers for going unhinged driven by their egos and start again by doing the work necessary to support anti-racism since they both claim to be on this long journey.
I should note that I am a Black woman who only owns the media mat from Tim, he’s not my style and I frequently purchased from Lara’s original shop when she sold scrapbook supplies as an online scrapbook shop. She was always super nice and friendly to me. If she made a mistake on my order which happened a few times she fixed it and was extremely courteous.
I don’t know what is going on, but I wish them both a nap and peace of mind.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 16, 2020 11:21:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 13:38:15 GMT
I don’t know what is going on, but I wish them both a nap and peace of mind. Love this! There have been times over the course of my life when I would have liked to just put myself down for a nap and take a bit of a time out!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2020 14:19:48 GMT
I ran across this group just tonight. As a former member of Two Peas I have to say I was at first excited then you showed me your true colors You people are the nastiest, meanest mob mentality I've ever seen with the exception of Trump supporters. Talk about judgmental. Wow wow wow. You should all be ashamed. If not I'm ashamed on your behalf Says a troll who came back to post exactly what she’s trying to call out. Hypocrite!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2020 14:20:20 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2020 14:21:08 GMT
Slander can be prosecuted. Careful what you say and repeat Go for it! Start prosecuting. Who slandered who? So far, Lara did. You going to turn Lara in for copyright infringement too?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 14:27:08 GMT
I ran across this group just tonight. As a former member of Two Peas I have to say I was at first excited then you showed me your true colors You people are the nastiest, meanest mob mentality I've ever seen with the exception of Trump supporters. Talk about judgmental. Wow wow wow. You should all be ashamed. If not I'm ashamed on your behalf As a former member, you MUST know that this is how 2Peas works.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2020 15:40:02 GMT
Well she wasn’t quiet for long. I hope Tim sues her stupid ass. Her IG yesterday.
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Post by pancakes on Jul 16, 2020 16:17:17 GMT
I ran across this group just tonight. As a former member of Two Peas I have to say I was at first excited then you showed me your true colors You people are the nastiest, meanest mob mentality I've ever seen with the exception of Trump supporters. Talk about judgmental. Wow wow wow. You should all be ashamed. If not I'm ashamed on your behalf Did you even read this thread? If you did, you'd realize there are people who support Tim and people who support Lara...and most are people in between. So I really don't know what your beef is when it comes to this topic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 16:27:55 GMT
Tl;dr Tim/Mario/Zoe are actively deleting comments regarding a piece of art in memory of George Floyd using tim holtz products. An email begN circulating where Mario called the author of it who’s a person of color, a troll and dumb fuck and good luck getting her orders filled from affiliates. Today, Tim has a story up about a black crafter. Is that enough of an “apology”? No. It’s not an apology Tim.
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Post by threegirls on Jul 16, 2020 16:29:49 GMT
I've eaten so much popcorn that my stomach hurts. Off to pop more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 16:41:56 GMT
Tl;dr Tim/Mario/Zoe are actively deleting comments regarding a piece of art in memory of George Floyd using tim holtz products. An email begN circulating where Mario called the author of it who’s a person of color, a troll and dumb fuck and good luck getting her orders filled from affiliates. Today, Tim has a story up about a black crafter. Is that enough of an “apology”? No. It’s not an apology Tim.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 16:42:39 GMT
I've eaten so much popcorn that my stomach hurts. Off to pop more. Like a pack of wild dogs
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Post by pancakes on Jul 16, 2020 16:45:39 GMT
And so the trolls who don't read leave...
LOL
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2020 16:56:02 GMT
And so the trolls who don't read leave... LOL Mzzlizzie was likely a Lara fan girl. 😆😆
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Post by amidwestkingdom on Jul 16, 2020 17:03:29 GMT
I don’t know what is going on, but I wish them both a nap and peace of mind. Love this! There have been times over the course of my life when I would have liked to just put myself down for a nap and take a bit of a time out! Naps are essential!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2020 20:19:28 GMT
Looks like Lara removed her IG post as well as both videos.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 16, 2020 20:34:37 GMT
I appreciate her stepping up and trying to stop people from buying knockoffs from Aliexpress but her very aggressive tactics make those who she attacks completely discredit her as a bully and mean girl and don’t take her seriously, plus the people she targets don’t give a rip because they wants cheap crap and won’t change their minds. I have already said my piece about the initial topic of this thread, but I just have to say something else about Lara and her hypocrisy… I totally get not wanting to have people buy cheap knock offs from Ali Express of your work, plus they are stealing your intellectual property to create the cheap knock offs, BUT... LARA DOES THE SAME EXACT THING. She has multiple stamps in her shop that directly violate the intellectual property of other entities... namely all the Friends TV show logo and icons!? There were other TV shows as well... probably other things, I didn't look too closely. It is beyond hypocritical to call someone out for stealing your "intellectual property" that you actually stole from someone else!!! I did wonder about that. Tv shows don’t usually give permission I’m not in favor of anyone stealing anyone’s Design or art.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 16, 2020 21:05:38 GMT
I have already said my piece about the initial topic of this thread, but I just have to say something else about Lara and her hypocrisy… I totally get not wanting to have people buy cheap knock offs from Ali Express of your work, plus they are stealing your intellectual property to create the cheap knock offs, BUT... LARA DOES THE SAME EXACT THING. She has multiple stamps in her shop that directly violate the intellectual property of other entities... namely all the Friends TV show logo and icons!? There were other TV shows as well... probably other things, I didn't look too closely. It is beyond hypocritical to call someone out for stealing your "intellectual property" that you actually stole from someone else!!! I did wonder about that. Tv shows don’t usually give permission I’m not in favor of anyone stealing anyone’s Design or art. I think that everyone knows darn well that the owners of Friends, Disney, The Office, or the Big Bang theory did not give her permission to make stamps for her profit.
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Post by gale w on Jul 16, 2020 22:28:53 GMT
Who is the deleted poster??
Also, almost every crafter has a story about a POC today. It's a "pass the brush" event. It's not just Tim.
ETA: never mind. I see now that it's mizzlizzie or whatever. I think I saw a deleted user before mizzlizzie deleted herself or was deleted.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 16, 2020 23:03:48 GMT
I ran across this group just tonight. As a former member of Two Peas I have to say I was at first excited then you showed me your true colors You people are the nastiest, meanest mob mentality I've ever seen with the exception of Trump supporters. Talk about judgmental. Wow wow wow. You should all be ashamed. If not I'm ashamed on your behalf Did you even read this thread? If you did, you'd realize there are people who support Tim and people who support Lara...and most are people in between. So I really don't know what your beef is when it comes to this topic. And there are people who are freakin confused. I’m not likely to do business with either for a bit til shit sorts out.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 16, 2020 23:05:04 GMT
Looks like Lara removed her IG post as well as both videos. Gosh that was a fast ‘week’
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Post by robinoveyousomuch on Jul 16, 2020 23:25:25 GMT
Tl;dr Tim/Mario/Zoe are actively deleting comments regarding a piece of art in memory of George Floyd using tim holtz products. An email begN circulating where Mario called the author of it who’s a person of color, a troll and dumb fuck and good luck getting her orders filled from affiliates. Today, Tim has a story up about a black crafter. Is that enough of an “apology”? No. It’s not an apology Tim.
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