Tim holtz the ink road (Lara) drama

We'll never know the truth. Let's make cards. No time for drama!

I don’t believe he is racist. I also don’t like people throwing the race card. We have BIG issues in our Nation and racism IS ONE of them.

Something did happen. Why block people and why NOT allow them to post comments.

I’m still VERY confused. 🥴

This is the artwork in question

Thank you for posting the entire screenshot. I couldn’t add it to my post above without cropping it to make the file size smaller.

Yeah, there’s something off with the timeline of all this.

And there is the problem to me! That none of the admins nor Tim shut down the naysayers to defend this absolutely BEAUTIFUL and POIGNANT card.

 I won’t link the cardmaker’s instagram, but it is easy enough to find from the screen shots above. On the post with the card in question I cut and pasted the following question she got today, and her answer. Too lazy to screenshot, edit etc.


did you remove your own post of this from the TH FB group, or did an admin remove it? I'm disturbed by all that's being said about your art and I think it is beautiful! I just want the whole story! Sorry it's come to this!🤗

I removed the post on my own. No one asked, or even suggested I remove it. My personal experience with @tim_holtz @mariojrossi and @igirlzoe is that they support, encourage and promote everyone’s art.

ETA:  based on pics of current projects she is still using TH products, buying the new releases and tagging him in her posts.  She was picked for the Designer Spotlight at SSS per her post on July 3rd.  And both TH and Zoe have liked and commented on her posts at least as far back as 2 months ago.

Kinda puts the racist thing to rest.  Not the emails yet.  But they must not have anything to do with this woman/artist.  It does not look like to me she needed this loon fighting her battles for her.  What in the world??  No wonder she got blocked.  

Agreed. Tim mentions "solidarity" in his statement. Letting his commenters talk down that beautiful card, to the point where the poster removed it, instead of standing behind the art and sentiment is NOT standing in solidarity with #BLM. 

Not even a LITTLE BIT.

Genuinely asking if anyone saw all this go down in the FB group in real time?  Do we know which comments were deleted and which ones were left before the post was taken down?  Is is it possible they were deleting anti-BLM posters and political whiners as well?  

To me, that would make a difference.  Deleting any comments from either side that deviated from the normal course of the board.  Don’t know if that was the case.  Could be that there were just so many comments, and this Ink Road chick seems very persistent, that the original poster just wanted to avoid the cluster it was turning in to. I know I would not want this Lara to speak on my behalf, or use me or my artwork to make any of her points or further any of her causes

But do we know that those comments were not being removed too?  I have seen no one but Lara speak to that.  

Where are all the screenshots from the kerfuffle?  
Someone always has screenshots, LOL.    

I don’t think so.  I think someone else is also involved.  Lara says “here is one of the emails I received from someone who is scared of both of you...”. The woman supposedly has been threatened for even speaking to Lara.  That is the email she shows at the end about TH refusing to acknowledge the black craft community (words used in the email).

We do not see header for the email she was forwarded from the scared person. No date. No subject.

Tim’s bitter response is onJune 21. We see the header now, but the subject is blotted out. (Why?) But you can see it says something...Tim’s Design Team.

Mario’s email header has the date of July 7 with the subject of TROLL.

Card in question was posted on Insta on May 31. Not sure when it was put on the FB page.

Lara’a timeline makes no sense. Looks like creatively editing the email convos.

Still does not explain Mario’s out of character dumb f comment, but not as cut and dry as Lara would make it seem.  And it was not to Lara, so the threat to not work was not aimed at her stamp company, right? 

Lara sounds like she’s doing this for CLOUT not for BLM.

The person who posted the card also was the one who took it down in her own volition—TH, M, & Z did not ask her to ir pressure yet yo, and she has since stated that she didn’t feel pressured to remove it—she just did.

She accused/labeled him of being racist (as has the OP of this thread) by pulling it out of thin air.

TH, M, & Z never did or said anything that constitutes being racist (or even privilege). This Lara just attached that label to him because members of a group they are admins of made comments about another card maker posting a card honoring George Floyd, so the card maker deleted it herself.

Subsequently, when you delete your own post in Facebook, all the comments that are from the list also get deleted. So Lara is claiming that they deleted them trying to silence people.

Lara sounds crazy.