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Post by curiouscrafter on Jul 23, 2020 0:17:43 GMT
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 23, 2020 1:36:39 GMT
An hour long video and I don't know who Christopher and Brutus are
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Post by riversong1963 on Jul 23, 2020 1:44:47 GMT
Oh, good grief! SMH. Some people in this world need some serious mental help.
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Post by mom on Jul 23, 2020 1:50:11 GMT
Im 8 minuets in and have no clue what the real issue is.
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Post by riversong1963 on Jul 23, 2020 1:53:35 GMT
I don't think I'm gonna make it all the way through. I've got a headache just watching all the angst, crying fits, and emotional breakdowns. It's very sad, really. I hope she gets some counseling.
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Post by mom on Jul 23, 2020 2:28:43 GMT
Here's a Cliff Notes version by the video maker:
On the evening of July 21st 2020, Brutus Monroe's founder, Christopher Alan, took to his live stream to paint a false narrative that I was a monster out to destroy his brand. He didn't realize that I was watching. I wasn't going to make this video, but after deleting dozens of comments from HIS subscribers from his live stream, I decided to transcribe his video and share with you my side of things. I will no longer supporting #BrutusMonroe and #ChristopherAlan. What you do is completely up to you.. Please don't send hate to either and keep the comments kind.
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Post by joblackford on Jul 23, 2020 2:39:24 GMT
Im 8 minuets in and have no clue what the real issue is. Reading the comments (because no, I can't watch an hour of someone being upset on camera, I'm sorry) it looks like she gave an honest review of a box of BM products (a subscription box) and said she didn't like the color scheme and presumably some other honest opinions, and now the BM people are going after her...?? I'm sure there must be a lot more to it than that, but the comments seem to indicate that her giving her honest opinions in an unboxing video is what they took issue with... And then they slammed her in their own video and are threatening her...?? I hesitate to even comment because I'm still exhausted from the last round of scrappy drama, but is that the gist - did you end up watching? I've never watched her channel but YT has been encouraging me in her direction.
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Post by mom on Jul 23, 2020 2:47:17 GMT
Im 8 minuets in and have no clue what the real issue is. Reading the comments (because no, I can't watch an hour of someone being upset on camera, I'm sorry) it looks like she gave an honest review of a box of BM products (a subscription box) and said she didn't like the color scheme and presumably some other honest opinions, and now the BM people are going after her...?? I'm sure there must be a lot more to it than that, but the comments seem to indicate that her giving her honest opinions in an unboxing video is what they took issue with... And then they slammed her in their own video and are threatening her...?? I hesitate to even comment because I'm still exhausted from the last round of scrappy drama, but is that the gist - did you end up watching? I've never watched her channel but YT has been encouraging me in her direction. Yeah, I watched 95% of it. And yeah, you are about right. She said she didnt like the color combo in an unboxing video she made. The guy who owns the kit club then talked about her in a live video and said she needed to work on her moral compass. She shares screenshots of what she said (and she was polite and not overly negative). She doesn't have any screen grabs of what the kit club owner said and now the video has been deleted. The ladys feelings are hurt (I truly believe this) but Im not sure all of it is worth making these videos about it. Go on about your day and move on.
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Post by joblackford on Jul 23, 2020 2:51:48 GMT
The ladys feelings are hurt (I truly believe this) but Im not sure all of it is worth making these videos about it. Go on about your day and move on. I saw something in the comments about attorneys and being threatening with de-platforming her (shutting down her YT?!) which all seems very over the top for a disagreement about a video she has every right to make - an unboxing with honest opinions. I don't understand why it would blow up like this but I doubt that pouring out an hour long confessional video is going to help the situation. Sigh.
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Post by curiouscrafter on Jul 23, 2020 2:53:16 GMT
Im 8 minuets in and have no clue what the real issue is. Reading the comments (because no, I can't watch an hour of someone being upset on camera, I'm sorry) it looks like she gave an honest review of a box of BM products (a subscription box) and said she didn't like the color scheme and presumably some other honest opinions, and now the BM people are going after her...?? I'm sure there must be a lot more to it than that, but the comments seem to indicate that her giving her honest opinions in an unboxing video is what they took issue with... And then they slammed her in their own video and are threatening her...?? I hesitate to even comment because I'm still exhausted from the last round of scrappy drama, but is that the gist - did you end up watching? I've never watched her channel but YT has been encouraging me in her direction. Okay so it wasn't just me as I had a hard time following, and after I watched the full hour, I went to watch the unboxing video to figure out more. I didn't see his video before it was deleted. Then I was reading all the comments from her video today. It was hard to watch and piece all together.
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Post by QueSeraSera on Jul 23, 2020 3:09:52 GMT
This is totally different than Lara/Tim incident. Wow. This poor woman posted an honest review in an unboxing video. I completely agreed with her thoughts based on the photos she shows in the video. She was tactful and not rude at all. She is entitled to post her honest feedback. Apparently this isn’t tolerated by the owner of Brutus Monroe, Christopher Alan. He went full passive aggressive diva asshole on her and mocked her in a live stream. The examples he posted using the kit used paper not from the kit which I think proves her case about the colors being a mismatch to the stamp. I didn’t even know any of these people before this. I will never patronize Brutus Monroe after looking into this incident. He needs to grow up. I felt so bad for the lady he attacked. He accused her of using his name for attention because she dared post an honest review about a kit she purchased. Get over yourself Christopher Alan. No one here even knows who you are 🙄
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Post by msliz on Jul 23, 2020 3:55:29 GMT
The guy who owns the kit club then talked about her in a live video and said she needed to work on her moral compass. She shares screenshots of what she said (and she was polite and not overly negative). She doesn't have any screen grabs of what the kit club owner said and now the video has been deleted. The ladys feelings are hurt (I truly believe this) but Im not sure all of it is worth making these videos about it. Go on about your day and move on. So, at this point it's just a he said / she said ? I feel badly for her, but I'm not sure I have the energy to do this again. And I have no clue who these guys are anyway. I don't have a pony in this race.
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Post by QueSeraSera on Jul 23, 2020 4:03:45 GMT
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Post by msliz on Jul 23, 2020 4:08:48 GMT
Agreed, QueSeraSera, he's absolutely looking like a bully here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 4:52:24 GMT
She seems really sweet and her opinion was presented as just that.
FFS. BM seems to be acting in a bullying way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 5:14:42 GMT
Here's her unboxing video that caused BM and his "team" to be so sad. I don't get it. She said she didn't think the colors of the paper were summery like the stamps and the box image (rainbow mouse) of the kit. She wasn't mean. She said she'd use the papers for later in the fall. She liked the stamps...... ??
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Jul 23, 2020 5:50:01 GMT
And I have no clue who these guys are anyway. I don't have a pony in this race. Yeah I had to go look up the company because I’ve never heard of them. I watched the unboxing video and that didn’t look like $42 worth of stuff. The box was cute but the items inside looked more like fall colors. She kept saying how cute everything is inside the box. I agree that all the items together as a kit didn’t really mesh and didn’t look like a July kit. People are weird and defensive and maybe sensitive because they aren’t in peak financial shape? I dunno why anyone would come out attacking like that. Full disclosure though—I didn’t watch the one hour video. I read the thread and watched the “instigating” 10 minute video—and based my opinion on that.
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Post by mom on Jul 23, 2020 13:17:43 GMT
The guy who owns the kit club then talked about her in a live video and said she needed to work on her moral compass. She shares screenshots of what she said (and she was polite and not overly negative). She doesn't have any screen grabs of what the kit club owner said and now the video has been deleted. The ladys feelings are hurt (I truly believe this) but Im not sure all of it is worth making these videos about it. Go on about your day and move on. So, at this point it's just a he said / she said ? I feel badly for her, but I'm not sure I have the energy to do this again. And I have no clue who these guys are anyway. I don't have a pony in this race.
This is where I am at, lol. After last time (with Tim and whatshername) I am not sure I will pick a side without seeing it all.
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Post by christinec68 on Jul 23, 2020 13:37:58 GMT
I agree that box is unimpressive but I think she presented it in a kind manner. She certainly doesn't deserve this kind of backlash and he's doing way more damage to his brand than a slightly disappointed customer.
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Post by kraft4fun on Jul 23, 2020 13:48:42 GMT
Seems like it would have been easier to just change out the paper, rather than all this mess. Most of the time I take the paper that is in a kit that doesn't work for me, put the paper away and use what I want out of my stash. I have en entire box of just that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 14:06:11 GMT
Seems like it would have been easier to just change out the paper, rather than all this mess. Most of the time I take the paper that is in a kit that doesn't work for me, put the paper away and use what I want out of my stash. I have en entire box of just that. That's exactly what she said she was going to do. But she has the right to voice an opinion on her channel about a kit she purchased w/her money. I can't believe anyone would make a big deal out of that - certainly not by calling out her comments (though not tied to her name) in a live. Just let it go. You don't know if she's on the live too (she was). Reminds me of Tracie going over to Victoria Marie's FB and smack talking about the peas. Complaining about us having opinions. ----- People have opinions! Sorry if that comes as a shock to some. And they sometimes share them online! If you're a retailer or scrapbooker or Youtuber and you can't deal w/people's opinions - please close up shop and keep your products/projects for your friends and family.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 23, 2020 14:57:18 GMT
So, a classic case of guy being a total douche canoe to woman daring to say she didn't like something he made? I don't even know who Christopher Alan is but I guess I do now. Can't wait until he threatens litigation for each of us because we dared discuss him in this thread.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 23, 2020 15:15:54 GMT
I can't see any of the videos. Not available to me. Who was the YouTuber who originally posted?
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 23, 2020 15:22:56 GMT
I can't see any of the videos. Not available to me. Who was the YouTuber who originally posted? TheJollyFatElf
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 23, 2020 15:30:16 GMT
I can't see any of the videos. Not available to me. Who was the YouTuber who originally posted? TheJollyFatElfI saw a video she posted a few weeks ago about why she was no longer selling stamps. She was very kind and spoke about how great the product was, but that selling wasn't her thing. She sounds like she isn't a person who says things to make everyone happy and is honest, but she still came off very sweet.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 23, 2020 15:32:49 GMT
I saw a video she posted a few weeks ago about why she was no longer selling stamps. She was very kind and spoke about how great the product was, but that selling wasn't her thing. She sounds like she isn't a person who says things to make everyone happy and is honest, but she still came off very sweet. She definitely came off as kind-spoken in the videos that have now been taken down/made private. Clearly hurt by the whole situation but not vengeful or unhinged.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 23, 2020 15:35:01 GMT
I saw a video she posted a few weeks ago about why she was no longer selling stamps. She was very kind and spoke about how great the product was, but that selling wasn't her thing. She sounds like she isn't a person who says things to make everyone happy and is honest, but she still came off very sweet. She definitely came off as kind-spoken in the videos that have now been taken down/made private. Clearly hurt by the whole situation but not vengeful or unhinged. She apparently isn't the only one. This review gave the box one star. I have seen several other YouTubers talk about the company, but never thought I liked it enough to check it out. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 16:33:35 GMT
An effective tactic is to threaten to sue people who dare post a negative opinion (she says that's not the case here - but it works as John Oliver has shown us).
It may lose in court, but as the moneyed people know, just the threat is enough to scare people into silence lest they have to spend thousands or more in defending against frivolous suits.
As far as I am aware, opinions are protected speech.
I hope that's still true in our money-talks America.
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Post by msliz on Jul 23, 2020 16:54:20 GMT
She definitely came off as kind-spoken in the videos that have now been taken down/made private. Clearly hurt by the whole situation but not vengeful or unhinged. She apparently isn't the only one. This review gave the box one star. I have seen several other YouTubers talk about the company, but never thought I liked it enough to check it out. I believe this is the same person.
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Post by mom on Jul 23, 2020 17:59:13 GMT
She apparently isn't the only one. This review gave the box one star. I have seen several other YouTubers talk about the company, but never thought I liked it enough to check it out. I believe this is the same person. Yes, same person.
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