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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 9:57:49 GMT
The challenge accepted b&w posts are really ticking me off. If folks want to empower other women then talk about who empowers them and why, don't post yet another good looking pic of yourself, otherwise it's vapid and self serving imo.
But I feel like if I quit IG, I'm going to lose my main channel of scrapping inspiration. So for those who don't use IG, how do you get your inspiration?
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Post by mich5481 on Jul 31, 2020 10:19:43 GMT
I haven't seen many of those photos in my IG feed. Maybe you need to edit the people you follow. 🤷♀️
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 31, 2020 12:10:53 GMT
There's no real alternative to the amount of scrappy posting being done on IG, unfortunately. However, if you do decide to stay, don't hesitate to reach out to the women posting pretty B&W portraits of themselves instead of honouring the original campaign about Turkish femicides. These B&W photos were not supposed to be glam or goodlooking, they were supposed to mirror the photos found daily in Turkish newspapers of the new batch of women who'd been murdered in the name of honour. Pınar Gültekin was killed just two weeks ago! Her death is what started this campaign. Women are not empowering women by completely ignoring her honour killing and the many others that are being denounced. Once the campaign hit the US spheres, most traces of Pınar disappeared and it became a beauty competition. This is Pınar's story and the story of her murder. This is the problem with how the campaign has evolved recently. RIP Pınar
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Post by lasteve1 on Jul 31, 2020 12:55:21 GMT
@northrigg I don't think there's a good alternative unfortunately. I would suggest maybe just cleaning up your feed to remove women that don't inspire you? I keep two instagram accounts (it's super easy to switch back and forth). On my personal account I follow people I know in real life & post regular life photos (I don't update that often honestly) and then I have a crafty feed where I post my scrapbook/craft projects and follow crafters who inspire me. I can easily choose which account I want to scroll on. I've found that facebook is okay for groups... I don't follow crafty people on there, but sometimes I get some good inspiration in crafty groups, like the Craft the Story group for AE products, but it's not the same as instagram. I also enjoy watching videos on youtube, but I only have a handful of creators I really like and they don't post enough... I get a much wider range of inspiration on instagram. I wish pinterest was better, it used to be, but it seems to have fallen out of favor with scrapbookers because I can't find anything very new on there... I do use it for other inspiration, like interior design, and I love to look at non-scrapbook posts to inspire my scrapbooking, such as "magazine editorial design" is a good search term. I too was kinda annoyed when I saw these posts originally but... I would also add that I've seen a lot of people learning about the origins of it and changing/deleting their original post. Regardless, just like all other trends, this will pass... if this one really gets under your skin you could take a short break and when you come back it'll be a distant memory
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 13:29:03 GMT
This made me go look at the IGs of the ususal suspects (april foster, jennifer mcguire, becky higgins etc) Support and compassion? Or just another vain post? Hmmmmm
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 15:14:18 GMT
I PMed anyone who posted the b/w photo. On a few I also posted details about the reason behind the b/w photo.
I was a bit miffed that several crafters I follow "accepted the challenge."
This is where as humans we need to step back and research before taking on another stupid social media challenge (the original meaning is NOT stupid. But the way so many of these look at me challenges are).
A friend made a good point. A lot of these challenges and hashtags are a good way for stalkers to follow you.
I told many posting a b/w photo isn't going to fix anything. You are just another sheep following the cool kids. So over it.
I deleted my original IG account last year and took a 4 month break. It was sooooo nice. BUT IG is where I found the best inspiration in one place. No following a bazzillion blogs.
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Post by scrapcat on Jul 31, 2020 15:38:21 GMT
I totally empathize with you on this. Instagram is my only social media outlet. I always sign off and take a break in January from it and this year it turned into about 6 weeks. I considered getting off totally until the Covid hit. I recently took another break for about 2.5 weeks in the beginning of July.
I was also a little "eh" about these b&w photo things. Didn't we just go thru a whole lesson in performative activism?! I reposted about the Turkish stories in my stories, but then I read another article in which it said, it actually is something that originated in Brazil.
I would suggest clearing your feed. I follow less and less "scrap celebrities", but recently with all of the representation questions in crafting I have followed more companies and want to see what they are doing and what their response is.
So, I guess I would suggest a break? Sign out, you can even delete the app and reinstall it later. But I do try to just focus on the scrap inspiration pics. I go thru who I follow about every 6 months and clean it up. Sometimes it's not that I don't like someone, I just get tired of their aesthetic or something. I feel bad bcz I think I may have unfollowed peas, but mostly bcz they weren't actively posting.
As far as other inspiration..you can try Pinterest? Usually before I go to a crop, I will search layouts on pinterest to get some inspiration. The scrapbook.com gallery is also a pretty good source.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 31, 2020 15:44:40 GMT
I was also a little "eh" about these b&w photo things. Didn't we just go thru a whole lesson in performative activism?! I reposted about the Turkish stories in my stories, but then I read another article in which it said, it actually is something that originated in Brazil. The B&W photo challenge has been used several times over the years including for a cancer awareness campaign in Brazil several years back. This wave, however, is in support of the victims of the femicides in Turkey. Hope this clears up the mystery.
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Post by scrapcat on Jul 31, 2020 17:02:43 GMT
I was also a little "eh" about these b&w photo things. Didn't we just go thru a whole lesson in performative activism?! I reposted about the Turkish stories in my stories, but then I read another article in which it said, it actually is something that originated in Brazil. The B&W photo challenge has been used several times over the years including for a cancer awareness campaign in Brazil several years back. This wave, however, is in support of the victims of the femicides in Turkey. Hope this clears up the mystery. I appreciate the info. I was saying that I did research and see the connection to the story in Turkey and reposted that to my stories to give context to these photos I see being posted. But it came to my attention from a NYT article and NPR interview, that this recent wave in the US is actually connected to a resurgence of the Brazil one. Regardless, none of this was evident by the posts from the women I saw reposting, it just said "support women"! Also read another anecdote that said it was related to the recent AOC/Yoho dust up in the US Capital. It would just be nice if people posting could have added some context to their posts/comments.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 31, 2020 18:28:20 GMT
I thought I was just a judgy bitch because my eyes were rolling so hard at all the B&W taking over my feed. Not one of them mentioned anything other than #challengeaccepted and #supportwomen with an artfully posed, good picture. It could not have been more vague or vapid. I did see later that the original hashtag was the support of Turkish women. Then I saw people getting all butthurt (someone must have clued them in to what they were supposedly coopting) and they were then posting a canned reply that they were fully in support of endangered women and if their post educated just one person... WT ever loving F? Would have been nice for you to mention that in the first place instead of making sure you picked the right photo and tagged the right people to boost your profile.
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Post by anniefb on Jul 31, 2020 18:35:53 GMT
Yeah I must admit I was annoyed when I saw those photos streaming through my feed. Like your idea of PMing the posters sleepingbooty.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jul 31, 2020 19:05:15 GMT
Most of the people I know personally are taking the BW thing seriously. One posted a stark shot of herself after her first chemo treatment, her eyes haunted, her hair freshly shaved after it started coming out in clumps. Others have also posted unglamorous selfies speaking of the strong women they know.
There are of course, exceptions. The ones who have hunted down the most flattering photo of themselves they own, and converted to BW. I can easily tell from the depth of focus and focal length that these were taken with real cameras, and not selfies at all. Yes, eye rolling here.
But very few know what the original challenge was about, which is a shame.
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Post by amom23 on Jul 31, 2020 19:09:54 GMT
My general rule is if you annoy me I will unfollow you. Life is too short.
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 31, 2020 19:11:40 GMT
The B&W photo challenge has been used several times over the years including for a cancer awareness campaign in Brazil several years back. This wave, however, is in support of the victims of the femicides in Turkey. Hope this clears up the mystery. They may have not known the intent of the original black and white photos. I saw a black and white photo of Heidi Swapp, read the challenge about empowering women, rolled my eyes and didn't read any posts after that with B&W photos of crafters I follow. I didn't even finish reading HS's post, so I missed reading the hashtags. I'm more of a visual person and rarely read the hashtags people put on their posts. I look at the photo, like, and save.
I did mute a few crafters because, yes it felt vapid. My instagram is for crafty and happy things. I know it's different for others. I wish there was a snooze for 30 days option like Facebook.
ETA: @northrigg I'd normally say pinterest, but it's garbage to wade through when you are doing a search. You could start with at least following manufacturers and scrappers you like.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 20:21:07 GMT
Thanks - when I first started seeing the BW posts with the challenge hashtag, I did my research - and came across multiple articles explaining it was about empowerment/Brazil/ and Turkish murders. I hadn't heard - Pınar Gültekin's story (thank you for sharing sleepingbooty). Understanding what the challenge was supposed to be about, started my annoyance. But it's gone beyond that. I feel like folk jump on the "it" theme of the month, post, and think that's it, they've done their bit. Of course some may actually be doing more than that. I guess I'm just really fed up with humanity in general. An IG break is probably what's needed.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jul 31, 2020 20:32:16 GMT
I guess I'm just really fed up with humanity in general. An IG break is probably what's needed. Happy IG break! May it be the refresher you're looking for. Don't hesitate to unfollow the accounts that get under your skin too regularly when you return. Something-something about the benefits of digital decluttering...
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Post by Embri on Jul 31, 2020 21:27:58 GMT
One thing I've found helpful for curating digital streams (for me it was cutting out the Google ecosystem, but the same principles apply elsewhere) was to avoid accounts and subscriptions of any kind.
For example I still watch YouTube, but I use my browser bookmarks and Reading List extension to manage channels/videos I enjoy, and only visit them when I feel like watching that specifically. I don't let algorithms control my viewing experience. I've got my extensions (uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Forget Me Not, and uMatrix) and browser settings configured to clean up after any website that doesn't have explicit permission to store data on my computer for later use. While I know that doesn't stop most sites from their data-collection gorge-fest, a VPN or Tor seems a bit extreme for me, so this is what I've settled with. No accounts on sites where I'm simply consuming content.
I manage my own 'feeds', taking a more active role in deciding what media I will consume and what I leave behind.
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Post by joblackford on Jul 31, 2020 21:39:47 GMT
Yeah... a break might be the thing. And a little housecleaning...
I hated that “challenge” from day one because it started out so cliquey and secretive - just a hashtag, no explanation. It was clear that if no one had tagged you you weren’t loved or cool enough to be in the know, which doesn’t seem like women supporting women. I figured it was a “get yourself in the frame, see your own beauty” thing, which I can support, but then I realized it wasn’t that either.
And then just as I got tagged and saw the whole message I read a couple of posts that clued me in to where this had come from. The messages I got were well intentioned, so I wrote a private message back to those friends to thank them for thinking of me and tell them why they were important to me. And then I posted separately about the Turkish anti-femicide campaign. I’m still seeing posts but for the most part I just scroll past. Some people don’t know, some people don’t care.
But one of my friends got a pissy message from someone in her feed who announced she was being untagged because she clearly “didn’t support women” and that’s the kind of bullshit that gets my back up. An IG celeb also got tons of angry DMs after she tried to educate people about this “challenge” and told them that the idea of women not supporting women was a myth of the patriarchy - no one seemed to see the irony of yelling at a woman for “not supporting women.”
Also, fucking chain letters. I’m sorry - if I have to send anything on to 20 people it’s a chain letter, and I hate chain letters. They’re viral nuisances. They primarily exist to perpetuate themselves. If they have some good to them I might find a way to go along with the spirit of them - that’s why I sent kind messages to the people who tagged me. But again, that just pisses me off.
Anyway... I love Instagram for the most part, and hate every alternative platform, but I need to do some digital decluttering too. My feed has gotten out of control and I need to reshape it into what I want to see.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 31, 2020 22:28:07 GMT
How are these people helping when they can't even bother to explain WTF they are hashtagging and why. if I gotta google your hashtag, you're not spreading the message. But, heeey, you look good in that photo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 23:03:00 GMT
One thing I've found helpful for curating digital streams (for me it was cutting out the Google ecosystem, but the same principles apply elsewhere) was to avoid accounts and subscriptions of any kind. For example I still watch YouTube, but I use my browser bookmarks and Reading List extension to manage channels/videos I enjoy, and only visit them when I feel like watching that specifically. I don't let algorithms control my viewing experience. I've got my extensions (uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Forget Me Not, and uMatrix) and browser settings configured to clean up after any website that doesn't have explicit permission to store data on my computer for later use. While I know that doesn't stop most sites from their data-collection gorge-fest, a VPN or Tor seems a bit extreme for me, so this is what I've settled with. No accounts on sites where I'm simply consuming content. I manage my own 'feeds', taking a more active role in deciding what media I will consume and what I leave behind. This is me. Noscript, adblock, no cookies unless I personally allow each one in, NO facebook cookies of any kind, no google cookies except on my chrome browser, which I use sparingly. I don't like being creeped on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 23:13:51 GMT
The challenge accepted b&w posts are really ticking me off. If folks want to empower other women then talk about who empowers them and why, don't post yet another good looking pic of yourself, otherwise it's vapid and self serving imo. But I feel like if I quit IG, I'm going to lose my main channel of scrapping inspiration. So for those who don't use IG, how do you get your inspiration? I have a craft only instagram account that isn't linked with my normal one. In it I follow only scrapbookers, scrapbook stores, etsy accounts etc. It keeps me totally insulated to that specific content and where I post my scrapbook pages. This also helps me not miss any sales etc I might be eyeing because the shops I like dont get lost in the fray of my friends and families posts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 23:18:37 GMT
Reminds me of all the teen-ager-y stuff on FB back in the day. Like the "where your purse is" coded stuff.
Ugh. Got off FB years ago and never looked back.
IG is a bit easier to take - esp. cuz it's mostly crafting, doxies and old-timey fashion follows.
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Post by scrappyem on Aug 1, 2020 13:25:01 GMT
Ugh. I had no idea what the challenge thing was about. Agree with joblackford it did seem very mean girl. Someone did eventually tag me and I'm thankful I'm lazy because by the time I remembered to look it up and see what the deal was, the truth about the "challenge" had come out. I wish everyone of those women who posted and can afford too, should make a donation to organizations that help provide support to victims of violence. Even if it was $5 a person that could be huge. Thanks sleepingbooty thanks for linking to the article. I've had better luck following hashtags. I follow mostly artists/crafters but I loath the IG algorithm. When I started following some hashtags that helped a little. It still pisses me off that I follow like 300 people and see only a tiny fractions of those people, and then a tiny fraction of their posts. Pinterest is awful now. I almost never use it any more and I use to spend hours and hours on that site.
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Post by cbscrapper on Aug 1, 2020 15:56:29 GMT
To me challenge accepted was always Celeste Barber. I noticed she uses hashtag celestechallangeaccepted. Love her.
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Post by msliz on Aug 1, 2020 17:41:49 GMT
I agree that following hashtags is the best way to go if you want to just get the crafting inspiration without all the extra.
See which hashtags your favorite crafters are posting to, and build off of that.
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Post by ameslou on Aug 2, 2020 11:42:52 GMT
My general rule is if you annoy me I will unfollow you. Life is too short.
This!
And my corollary rule is that if you post stuff that makes me start comparing/judging myself against you, I unfollow you.
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Post by cbscrapper on Aug 2, 2020 15:00:57 GMT
Now the photos are being posted all over fb. Ugh.
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