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Post by Why on Aug 22, 2020 16:59:14 GMT
I know someone that works in a check cashing place so I guess there are a lot of people that still get checks. There are many people that do not have bank accounts so direct deposit would no be something they could use.
I would be OK with 5 day a week mail delivery but I don't like the idea of the two days without delivery being together. I think maybe Thursday and Sunday would work. I know we have several Mondays that are holidays (no mail) and that would prevent there being no mail for 3 days (Sat,Sun,Mon) in a row.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 17:16:30 GMT
CNN... link“Fact check: Fox News hosts, other conservatives wrong that Social Security doesn't mail any checks”From the article... ”Facts First: The Social Security Administration never completely stopped mailing out paper checks. While 99.1% of Social Security recipients now receive their money via direct deposit, that remaining 0.9% equals 549,818 people receiving checks, according to official data published by the Social Security Administration for this month. "Nearly 850,000" paper checks go out from the Social Security Administration every month if you include the Supplemental Security Income program, said Social Security Administration spokesman Mark Hinkle. (Supplemental Security Income provides money to elderly, blind or disabled people with low incomes and few resources.) Hinkle said that, if you consider both Social Security and Supplemental Security Income, the breakdown is 98.8% direct deposit, 1.2% checks.” I didn't use Fox news as a source. www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10073.pdf While SSA may work with some people on a case by case basis, they don't want to issue paper checks. Direct deposit is much more secure and insures that people actually get their money unless there is some error by the bank. It saves taxpayers money and resources. Never suggested that you did use Fox News as a source. Just so happens this CNN guy was fact checking what they were selling on Fox News. And it really doesn’t matter what you or I or anyone thinks about folks who still chose, for whatever reason, to receive checks in the mail. And in some cases they don’t have a choice.
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Post by tara on Aug 22, 2020 18:43:04 GMT
I don’t know what to say any more when I read so many of your responses. Do you ever stop and think about what you are saying/typing, or is there no internal filter? If you are a lawyer, you must have better reasoning skills than you often demonstrate here. Many farmers, including livestock growers and dairy farmers, live in rural areas because farming dictates it. Are you really saying that the people who provide the food on your table should be penalized by poor mail delivery for doing so? She’s an attorney? OMG, that is rich. RICH. I’ve NEVER experienced anyone less interested in the world and the people of the world than she. Initially I agreed with you but then I starting thinking aren’t we supposed to treat each other better? Make it a better board?
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Post by oliquig on Aug 22, 2020 18:44:40 GMT
I would be okay with everyone getting one day less of mail and have it be like garbage delivery where one section doesn’t get mail on Monday, another on Tuesday, and so on.
Twice a week is too little, with bills and the like. And it’s everyone, all citizens, not just rural areas.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 22, 2020 20:39:50 GMT
The Postal Service may need a bailout. But it's actually making tons of cashBy Chris Isidore, CNN Business Updated 9:59 AM ET, Sat August 22, 2020 The financial problems have nothing to do with the expected surge in mail-in ballots for the election in November. And they are certainly not because of its contracts to handle delivery of Amazon (AMZN) packages, no matter what President Donald Trump claims about losses on those deliveries. Postal law, and investigations of those contracts, have confirmed that the USPS makes money on the contracts it has with Amazon and other major shippers.The USPS booked positive cash flow of nearly $2 billion in the nine months ending June 30, up from $1.3 billion in the same period a year ago. It had positive average annual cash flow of $3 billion over the previous three fiscal years. That positive cash flow came despite a large reported net losses — $7.5 billion the most recent nine months, up from a net loss of $5.9 billion in the year earlier period. ** Cash positive doesn't mean profitableCash flow and profits are not the same thing. Profitability factors in the costs of doing business, and in the case of the Postal Service, those costs are significant.The biggest drag on its finances is a unique rule that requires the USPS to prepay for workers' retirement benefits for decades into the future. In 2006, Congress passed a law to require the the agency to pre-fund 75 years worth of retiree health care benefits in the span of about 10 years. ** It's true that no other unit of government or private company that provides retiree health care coverage has to make such pre-funding payments. And in recent years, the USPS has not made the required payment, citing a lack of available cash. Taking charges for theoretical paymentsHere's where it gets really absurd. Even though the USPS hasn't been making those payments, it continues to book the theoretical cost as an expense — $16.8 billion since the start of the 2017 fiscal year. That accounts for most of the agency's reported losses. Retirees are still covered because the USPS made payments in the past. As of September 30, 2019, the balance of the retiree health benefits fund was $92.2 billion, with interest on the holdings covering most of the actual premium costs it made. The cost of retiree health care coverage is further inflated by the fact that only 74% of the nearly 500,000 retirees and their family members covered by those policies are fully enrolled in Medicare. Instead they use the USPS health care policies as their primary insurance, rather an as supplemental insurance. Nearly all private sector and government employers that provide retiree health benefits require full participation in Medicare, said Megan Brennan, a former postmaster general, before a House committee last year. If the USPS would require full Medicare participation, it would eliminate about 90% of the USPS unfunded retiree health care costs — about $33.5 billion — over 10 years, she told lawmakers.** LOTS more at link: www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/business/postal-service-losses-bailout/index.html OH where is Rep Katie Porter.. sure hope she is in the HOUSE on Monday!!You all have to listen carefully and take notes Monday... I have physical therapy Monday 12:20 - 2:30 (well that is the time I will be gone...including travel time!!)
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Post by lucyg on Aug 22, 2020 20:46:57 GMT
Who still gets paper checks in the mail? SSDI and the VA haven't issued paper checks since 2013. If someone doesn't have a bank account they get a pre loaded debit card. I would imagine it works the same way with welfare recipients. I haven't had a paper check from an employer in over 25 years. Even when I did get paper checks, they were never mailed, my manager handed them out to each employee. This is incredibly short-sighted. I work for a law firm. I mail checks for certificate fees, payment for services, retainer refunds, settlement payments all.the.time. I get my dividend checks from investments in the mail, as well as rebate checks for certain energy efficient upgrades I make to my home. I personally send checks as gifts to nieces and nephews who live far away because I won't send cash and gift cards are easy to feel in an envelope (and makes them vulnerable to theft). Is it really so hard to imagine that other lives are different? I'm 56 and I know that people older than me (and including my incredibly old-fashioned 46 year old sister) who still pay bills with checks in the mail and expect to receive checks in the mail for things. They still get their tax refunds in checks sent to them. People still use checks. That’s the word I was looking for, isn’t it? I still couldn’t come up with it this morning, till I saw your post. And my younger sister insists on paying everything by check, too. Even my 91yo mother pays her bills online.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 22, 2020 22:08:47 GMT
And my younger sister insists on paying everything by check, too. Even my 91yo mother pays her bills online. I pay all but one bill online. I refuse to pay the gas co online at $3 a pop, including auto-pay. A check and stamp on their envelope cost me less then $.55. Who knows how much I paid for my forever stamps! Oh and I have to mail my rent check unless I can get someone to drop it off.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 22, 2020 23:01:46 GMT
I have an aunt who had an information theft issue a few years ago and now insists on paying for everything imaginable by check. In fairness, hers was a particularly bad case, so I understand the paranoia.
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 22, 2020 23:03:54 GMT
And my younger sister insists on paying everything by check, too. Even my 91yo mother pays her bills online. I pay all but one bill online. I refuse to pay the gas co online at $3 a pop, including auto-pay. A check and stamp on their envelope cost me less then $.55. Who knows how much I paid for my forever stamps! Oh and I have to mail my rent check unless I can get someone to drop it off. I still pay the trash company and water company via check. They don’t do online billing except with a credit card so I mail a check.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 23, 2020 2:33:03 GMT
Anyhow, I guess I don’t have to care about this. After all, I am a coastal elite, and sometimes, I order things from Amazon with two-day shipping and they show up the same day! I’ll let people who this affects worry about it. I got mine. Am I doing this right? Midterm Post Grade: B+ Good start, overall. Commendable parochial posturing and lack of empathy. Incredulity and dismissive blame will come with practice. For more ideas, please see your notes from my lecture on the rise of American EveryoneShouldBeExactlyLikeMeism. (Office hours suspended until further notice for the protection of Me and Mine.)
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Post by Anita on Aug 23, 2020 3:35:48 GMT
Who still gets paper checks in the mail? SSDI and the VA haven't issued paper checks since 2013. If someone doesn't have a bank account they get a pre loaded debit card. I would imagine it works the same way with welfare recipients. I haven't had a paper check from an employer in over 25 years. Even when I did get paper checks, they were never mailed, my manager handed them out to each employee. That is incorrect. My DH works for Social Security and very much does issue paper checks. He is also a vet and has received paper checks from the VA for appointments at least within the last year if not sooner.
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 23, 2020 7:01:12 GMT
Who still gets paper checks in the mail? SSDI and the VA haven't issued paper checks since 2013. If someone doesn't have a bank account they get a pre loaded debit card. I would imagine it works the same way with welfare recipients. I haven't had a paper check from an employer in over 25 years. Even when I did get paper checks, they were never mailed, my manager handed them out to each employee. That is incorrect. My DH works for Social Security and very much does issue paper checks. He is also a vet and has received paper checks from the VA for appointments at least within the last year if not sooner. Oh I forgot that whenever he’s reimbursed for driving over certain mileage for medical appointments, ex does get mailed checks from the VA too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 13:39:29 GMT
Eh, all those who still need mail and "choose to" live rural - you can WAIT!
We can't bother the billionaires for more taxes.
You rural folks just suck it up.
Love, the GOP
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 23, 2020 15:06:04 GMT
Yesterday we took a long drive just to get out of the house and drove through quite a few rural communities.
Lots of trump signs.
It’s like they have to be thinking that all this shit that the GOP does that is hurting them isn’t meant for “them” and that it’s meant for Democrats?!?
It’s mind boggling for sure.
They won’t complain until it directly affects them. They’ll lose their land, their farms, their income, and they’ll suffer huge financial losses.
Maybe then they’ll start to think.
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Post by elaine on Aug 23, 2020 15:37:58 GMT
Yesterday we took a long drive just to get out of the house and drove through quite a few rural communities. Lots of trump signs. It’s like they have to be thinking that all this shit that the GOP does that is hurting them isn’t meant for “them” and that it’s meant for Democrats?!? It’s mind boggling for sure. They won’t complain until it directly affects them. They’ll lose their land, their farms, their income, and they’ll suffer huge financial losses. Maybe then they’ll start to think. So many have already. BUT, and this is the big but, due to cognitive dissonance (because they voted Trump in) they blame the Democrats for their financial and health woes. They buy the crap that Fox News and Breitbart and Qanon feeds them about everything negative happening being the fault of the Dems, because that is psychologically easier to deal with than coming to terms with the fact that they voted into office someone who is destroying our democracy for his own ego and financial interests.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 23, 2020 17:43:55 GMT
Eh, all those who still need mail and "choose to" live rural - you can WAIT! We can't bother the billionaires for more taxes. You rural folks just suck it up. Love, the GOP yeah after fasting so you can make a campaign donation you can just go wait for your mail to come. Pssssssst at the very minimum mail in your campaign donation so they can wait too! It’s fair
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Post by lisacharlotte on Aug 23, 2020 21:52:35 GMT
Who still gets paper checks in the mail? SSDI and the VA haven't issued paper checks since 2013. If someone doesn't have a bank account they get a pre loaded debit card. I would imagine it works the same way with welfare recipients. I haven't had a paper check from an employer in over 25 years. Even when I did get paper checks, they were never mailed, my manager handed them out to each employee. People still get SS checks via mail. Can’t direct deposit if the gov’t doesn’t have bank acct info. I personally know someone who gets a check, because I deposit it for them.
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