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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 7, 2020 3:49:36 GMT
Stress & worry & analyze everything?
I'm so tired of worrying that I will fail them.
Wise pea mamas, how do you just let things/worries go, even just a little?
ETA: By "indifferent" in my thread title, i meant literally not worry or barely caring about their kids. Not knowing where they spend the night at twelve years old, letting their four year old roam the neighborhood for hours alone, etc.
I meant it to be the extreme opposite of how tense and worried I am.
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Post by flanz on Sept 7, 2020 4:01:58 GMT
First of all, huge hugs to you!
And to be clear, I describe myself as someone who could have medalled had worrying been an Olympic sport until I was in my mid-late 30s. At almost 60, I've learned a few things.
The opposite of worrying isn't indifference. It's working to calmly do what we can do in specific circumstances and then let go, realizing that worrying will not affect any outcome. The only thing it does is to make the worrier sick and robs the worrier of happiness in the present.
Something like 95% of things people worry about never happen. Think about how much wasted time and energy that represents!
Our son, 32, spends his life in the mountains doing "extreme" snow sports and rock climbing. Friends ask me how I sleep at night, and I can honestly tell them that I don't worry about him. I love him to bits, know he is as prepared/knowledgeable as anyone can be, and that my worring won't keep him one tiny bit safer. So I choose not to worry.
I hope you can let go of worrying too. Believe me, I know it's not easy. (((HUGS)))
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Post by scrapngranny on Sept 7, 2020 4:04:28 GMT
Raising my teens was a nightmare for me. They weren’t bad kids, but if they weren’t all home I was a nervous wreck, to the point I knows the kids were paying and unfair price for my issue. I wish I could say I got a handle on it, it didn’t. It lasted until they moved out. It was hell!!
Now they all have teens, the 4 younger teens still have to use parent transportation, so they are still not a worry. The 3 older teens mom did not inherit the worry gene I have.
I will say I think there is more to worry about today than when my kids were that age. We didn’t have cell phones or the internet.
I wish you peace during these years.
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Post by busy on Sept 7, 2020 4:07:20 GMT
I guess I know that I have his best interests at heart in all I do. That doesn't mean I don't make wrong choices or let him down - I do. But I'm human and I'm doing the best I can. I let him know when I screw up and try to make it right. Do I stress and worry? Sure, but not excessively. I can't live my life that way - and I think living that way would do DS more harm than good. (And I KNOW it would do me more harm than good.)
If you never make mistakes or let them down, they'll never learn resilience or how to recover/learn from their own mistakes. It's just part of life and parenting IMO.
However, I certainly don't think I'm an "indifferent" parent.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Sept 7, 2020 4:15:48 GMT
Focus on the things I can control and remind myself that things I cannot control won't be impacted by how much I worry about them. It is a stress management skill. Covey's circle of concern, circle of influence, circle of control is helpful to me.
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Post by snyder on Sept 7, 2020 4:16:47 GMT
I think my faith has a lot to do with me not worrying to the extreme. I do worry, but I also internalize it, which isn't great either. I think you have to constantly remind yourself that previous "things" have always worked out and this will too. Just know, when you love them like you do, because you worry about them, you will not be failing them. That's what a child needs the most is your love. You're a good mamma, so take deep breaths, take precautions, but and believe that a higher power will protect them.
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Post by LeaP on Sept 7, 2020 4:31:14 GMT
I have tried to let out the rope little by little as the years go by. Letting them fail is by far the hardest thing but I am by nature a planner so that when they muck something up there is usually another path to pursue. We all learn from every failure.
What do you worry about? How big have your kids' messes been?
If you need anecdotes, I am more than happy to supply some.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 7, 2020 4:39:45 GMT
With schools starting and all of the extra stress of covid, I think almost every parent is at least a little anxious right now. I don’t know if that helps, but you’re certainly not alone.
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Post by nlwilkins on Sept 7, 2020 7:00:24 GMT
I was always the one who would make plans for the worst possible outcome. Having a plan helps to deal with the uncertainty. Plus it helped to keep me calm. When my girls were old enough to start having worries and nervousness, I taught them the same thing. They would get anxious and I would ask them what is the worst thing that could happen - and discuss what they could do about it. It would calm them down and and also teach them how to face their fears and find out they were not as menacing as they thought.
Mother was a widow with four kids, she was also a missionary and had things all planned out if something were to happen to her. We knew exactly what to do and who to contact. It took a lot of worry out of the situation for young teens. I never will forget the comfort of knowing there were things planned out that way. So I made sure to give that same comfort to my family.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 7, 2020 10:24:05 GMT
Thank you ladies. Your responses & advice do help.
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Post by peaname on Sept 7, 2020 10:24:56 GMT
Our culture makes us feel like we have to supervise our kids way longer than they need it. We are taught that helicopter parenting is how we show our love.
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 7, 2020 12:24:35 GMT
From your posts over the years, I know you are a great mom. Being a single mother to 4 children gives you a lot to worry about! Add in COVID and all that comes with it, YIKES.
Hang in there. Don't worry about what other parents do or don't do. Just do your best.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 7, 2020 12:44:56 GMT
I don’t know, I swear. A couple of weeks ago I was going into Dunkin’ to use the bathroom and there was a toddler ( 2at best ) wandering around alone in the parking lot. The guys car with the unattended kids was ‘parked’ right In the parking lot entrance and the Dunkin is on the corner of 2 busy roads. He was too fast for me so I went in & loudly annoyed that there was an unattended toddler running around the lot. Some guy goes bolting our the door ( at least he cared at that point ) but I come out of the bathroom and the guy is in there by himself again and the kids a again alone in the same RUNNING car that one ha just escaped from.
I was totally baffled like dude the kid got out once and for a coffee & donut your willing to risk it again?
I just don’t get it.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 7, 2020 12:51:07 GMT
I had an interesting conversation with my youngest lately about something similar. He just started law school and is, for the first time in his entire life having to work for his success. I was telling him that it is okay to strugggle or even fail and he is allowed to mess up. (This is a kid who graduated from both college and high school with a 4.0 with relative ease.)
Anyway, we stated talking and I mentioned a few fairly monumental parenting failures that I made that kept in up at night with worry and his response was that he didn’t even remember them. That he remembers those times differently. He remembers them as times where I let him make his own choices knowing that if it didn’t work out I would be there to help him figure out a new way. He said it was what made him more confident in trying new things.
So I guess the advice I have is worry in private, share concerns and consequences of what can happen, be there if something goes wrong (and it will) and above all else let them know that you will always love them no matter what.
Those darn kids will do what they want anyway, you can’t control them, only you.
I was pretty astounded that his memories and mine were so different.
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Post by Linda on Sept 7, 2020 13:11:31 GMT
Our culture makes us feel like we have to supervise our kids way longer than they need it. We are taught that helicopter parenting is how we show our love. I think you've hit the nail on the head. I know people have felt we're really lax and/or lazy parents over the years - usually for allowing our children to attend (chaparoned, supervised) events without a parent tagging along. I knew they were comfortable doing so and felt that it was important for them to have those experiences. Talking with other virtual school parents here lately - it feels like i'm the only one not reading my kids school email and google classroom feed - but I feel like she's capable of handling that herself and doesn't need me micromanaging. When I sent my daughter to college, we didn't put a tracker on her phone, it never occured to us to do so yet that seems common. And yes - I've felt judged for not being involved enough, caring enough. LavenderLayoutLady - I think it's normal to worry to some extent but if it's an overwhelming worry/anxiety, it would be worth mentioning to your doctor. You're not going to fail your kids - they are fed, clothed, educated, and loved. You won't be perfect, they won't be perfect, but there's a lot to be said for resilency. Teach them how to make good decisions and what to do in an emergency - and give them opportunities to make mistakes and fail so they can learn about consequences and learn how to dust themselves off and try again. (((((Hugs))))
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Post by Kath on Sept 7, 2020 13:15:45 GMT
4-year-olds wandering through neighborhoods alone for hours? That’s bad parenting.
I had one of those in my neighborhood when my kids were young. She showed up in her nightgown and rubber boots in the dark at 8:30 at night in 2 feet of snow asking if she could play. She was five.
She once brought the drinks for an impromptu picnic with all of the neighborhood children. They were all really excited when I happened to step out to check on my kids as they sat out on the grass with their blankets. The drink? A Costco size bottle of Children’s Tylenol. She asked if I could open it for her. I said no and then called her mother who didn’t seem to care much. That’s bad parenting.
ETA: I guess I should answer the question instead of going off on a tangent. As someone said above, as the years go by, you learn to let go a little at a time. It’s rough. Especially when they first start driving and you imagine all the things that could happen to them as they drive away. Every time you see them leaving, you think, “This could be the last time I see my kid,” but over time it gets easier. I don’t know if you ever stop truly worrying about your kids. It’s the way of a mother’s heart.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Sept 7, 2020 13:19:12 GMT
I'm somewhere in the middle of the bell curve on this one. I'm not a stressed worrier at all, but I'm far from indifferent.
I do think I've served my kids better though by not fretting over every little thing and allowing risks. I tried to create an environment that encouraged them to make their own decisions while operating in a 'safety zone' of sorts. A tightrope act at times for sure. But I truly believe it's a gift I have given them that has helped mold them into the really functional adults that they have become.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2020 14:09:11 GMT
I dont think I worry a lot about my kids, but I'm not indifferent.
I wouldn't let them roam the neighborhood at 4 as I think that is irresponsible not indifferent
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 7, 2020 14:11:15 GMT
As for not worrying too much, I trust that my kids will do what is right and for the idiot things they are bound to do, they won't be too serious.
I did a lot of stupid shit as a teen and turned out fine my kids have nothing on me.
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Post by RosieKat on Sept 7, 2020 16:04:58 GMT
I'll sit with you on that bench.
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Post by iluvpink on Sept 7, 2020 16:21:50 GMT
I don't know. I know there is a middle ground, but I can't seem to find it. My dd is 20 years old and went to visit a friend yesterday an hour away. She was going to be home before dark but then decided to stay for dinner and then driving home after dark. She's had her license for a little under a year and has driven plenty at night and some on the freeway but not much of the two combined. I was a nervous wreck until she got home. And it's not even winter with bad roads yet!
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Post by PLurker on Sept 7, 2020 16:39:39 GMT
I dont think I worry a lot about my kids, but I'm not indifferent. I wouldn't let them roam the neighborhood at 4 as I think that is irresponsible not indifferent unless they're literally "in danger" (physically) at the moment I'd like to say I'm "caring" instead of worrying. I care to know that things will work out but not to the point of nail biting worry. Kid locked keys in car. Were calling AAA to get unlocked. Instead of 'let me know when on way safe, I worry,' I changed it to 'let me know, I care.' That seemed more apt and I am always curious to hear the rest of the story.
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Post by silverlining on Sept 7, 2020 17:38:18 GMT
I remember those days so well, constantly trying to balance how much worry/care was too much or too little. My dh was good at reminding me this is just a phase, she'll grow out of it. And he was always right-they grew out of that phase and into the next one for me to worry about!
It's easy to worry too much about our kids, but impossible to love them too much.
I hope you can see that you do an incredible job loving your kids and working hard to support your family.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 7, 2020 19:39:04 GMT
Thanks ladies! You're all awesome!
I think maybe last night I just had a moment when i felt like I was keeping spinning plates in the air & had an itch on my nose. 😀
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Post by johnnysmom on Sept 7, 2020 19:48:02 GMT
Thanks ladies! You're all awesome! I think maybe last night I just had a moment when i felt like I was keeping spinning plates in the air & had an itch on my nose. 😀 It's ok if your plates get a little wobbly every once in awhile; if you find yourself surrounded by shattered plates you should probably ask for some help
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Post by StephDRebel on Sept 7, 2020 19:48:26 GMT
I had to change my goals and realize that the point is to allow them to gain enough experience and make enough mistakes to not be jackasses as adults.
Im a fan of worst case scenarios.
What is it? How likely is it? How much does my worrying impact it?
If not at all, I focus on something that I can change.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Sept 7, 2020 21:53:39 GMT
Worry likes to convince us that it is productive, but really it isn't. Worry is what I consider to be a stagnant emotion. It doesn't solve anything on it's own. For some of us, worry can spur us into action like making plans for the what-ifs, but mostly we just sit in worry. Like others, I would encourage you to look at what you can control. A life coach I work with had us make a list of everything we were worried/scared about. First of all, just getting it out on paper is a big relief. Then she told us to list one emotion/feeling that was associated with each worry. After that, we were to cross off anything we could not control. Anything left, we were to make a plan for how we would take action. It was such a freeing exercise.
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