pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Sept 9, 2020 17:00:24 GMT
Bob Woodward has tapes.
And yet he's still out there telling people it's a "hoax" and you don't need to wear a mask or social distance.
He KNEW it was deadly. He KNEW it was airborne. He KNEW it could kill young people.
He KNEW.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 9, 2020 17:04:29 GMT
of course he knew.
just like he knew about the Russian bounties on our soldiers.
like he knew/knows about Russian interference in our elections.
like he knew Mexico would never pay for the wall.
like he knew he didn't, and still doesn't, care about anyone but himself.
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Post by janeliz on Sept 9, 2020 17:07:30 GMT
What in the wide world possessed that man to go on record with Bob Woodward? If he has any babysitters left in that White House, they are terrible at their jobs.
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Post by tampascrapper on Sept 9, 2020 17:23:38 GMT
of course he knew. just like he knew about the Russian bounties on our soldiers. like he knew/knows about Russian interference in our elections. like he knew Mexico would never pay for the wall. like he knew he did care about anyone but himself. I agree!
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Post by hop2 on Sept 9, 2020 17:24:43 GMT
of course he knew. just like he knew about the Russian bounties on our soldiers. like he knew/knows about Russian interference in our elections. like he knew Mexico would never pay for the wall. im just going to quote this Except that last one, I don’t think he actually knows this in his consciousness. Not giving a fuck about anyone but himself is just the way his brain works.
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Post by stittsygirl on Sept 9, 2020 17:28:07 GMT
Holy shit. All of it 😮.
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casii
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Post by casii on Sept 9, 2020 17:30:48 GMT
Like I said in Elaine's thread, fuck Trump. Fuck his enablers and fuck his voters.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 17:38:21 GMT
Kaitlan Collins...
”Trump, March 19, on tape with Bob Woodward: "I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic." Kayleigh McEnany today: "The president never downplayed the virus."
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Sept 9, 2020 17:47:51 GMT
There are not enough expletives to describe that pile of shit.
Anyone else concerned about the US info he was privy to during his time in the White House and what he may do with that info. Reading his love letters with Kim Jong Un make me uneasy. It seems like he will tell anyone anything if they cater to his ego.
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Post by jayfab on Sept 9, 2020 19:59:57 GMT
I HATE HIM WITH THE HEAT OF A THOUSAND SUNS.
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Post by Really Red on Sept 9, 2020 20:06:12 GMT
There are not enough expletives to describe that pile of shit. Anyone else concerned about the US info he was privy to during his time in the White House and what he may do with that info. Reading his love letters with Kim Jong Un make me uneasy. It seems like he will tell anyone anything if they cater to his ego. Yes I HATE HIM WITH THE HEAT OF A THOUSAND SUNS. And yes. What the ever loving fuck? And now the Justice Dept is going to represent him in his rape case? WHAT IS GOING ON ? Is there NO integrity in the government any longer? Because I do not for one minute believe if this was a Democrat that there wouldn't be Democrats completely disgusted.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 9, 2020 20:18:27 GMT
of course he knew. just like he knew about the Russian bounties on our soldiers. like he knew/knows about Russian interference in our elections. like he knew Mexico would never pay for the wall. im just going to quote this Except that last one, I don’t think he actually knows this in his consciousness. Not giving a fuck about anyone but himself is just the way his brain works. i just realized my sentence should have said "doesn't" isn't of does. i had to go back and change that.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 9, 2020 20:24:39 GMT
im just going to quote this Except that last one, I don’t think he actually knows this in his consciousness. Not giving a fuck about anyone but himself is just the way his brain works. i just realized my sentence should have said "doesn't" isn't of does. i had to go back and change that. i figured that, but I still don’t think he has any consciousness of that, that just how his brain works. He isn’t capable of caring a single bit about anyone else. His mother knew it that why she called him a monster.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 9, 2020 20:31:25 GMT
i just realized my sentence should have said "doesn't" isn't of does. i had to go back and change that. i figured that, but I still don’t think he has any consciousness of that, that just how his brain works. He isn’t capable of caring a single bit about anyone else. His mother knew it that why she called him a monster. he cares....about his image, his money, his legacy. i believe he cares for anyone who will fortify those things. once they are no longer of use to him, he no longer cares. look at the people hes hired and appointed. loved them all and showered them with accolades until they were no longer of any use or became a detriment to his image or agenda. in order to tear them down afterwards, he had to care enough in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 20:41:26 GMT
What in the wide world possessed that man to go on record with Bob Woodward? If he has any babysitters left in that White House, they are terrible at their jobs. This shocks me as well. I love to know why Trump was willing to speak with Woodward who wrote not one but two best-selling investigative books about Nixon! 😂
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Post by stittsygirl on Sept 9, 2020 20:46:24 GMT
What in the wide world possessed that man to go on record with Bob Woodward? If he has any babysitters left in that White House, they are terrible at their jobs. This shocks me as well. I love to know why Trump was willing to speak with Woodward who wrote not one but two best-selling investigative books about Nixon! 😂 Here’s a good analysis about that: www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/why-trump-talked-to-woodward/index.html
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Post by peasapie on Sept 9, 2020 20:55:03 GMT
I think he did it so he could say he knew but did t want to frighten anyone. But he knew and waited A MONTH to do anything, so he’s complicit.
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Post by elaine on Sept 9, 2020 21:13:08 GMT
I think that this analysis is spot on. Especially Trump’s belief that he can manipulate anyone he talks to, leaving them with a highly favorable impression of him along with his belief that Woodward’s first book about him would have been positive, if only Trump had talked with him.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Sept 9, 2020 21:29:42 GMT
But her emails...
Sorry, someone had to.
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Post by christine58 on Sept 9, 2020 21:44:24 GMT
No "poop"..Of course he knew~~
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Post by Just T on Sept 9, 2020 22:29:56 GMT
What in the wide world possessed that man to go on record with Bob Woodward? If he has any babysitters left in that White House, they are terrible at their jobs. Do you think Trump even freaking KNOWS who Bob Woodward is???
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 22:52:12 GMT
Here is trump’s answer about the tape call between him and Woodward. This is from today’s briefing
”Q Mr. President, can you address the concerns from the Woodward book in regards to whether — did you mislead the public by saying that you downplayed the coronavirus and that you repeatedly did that in order to reduce panic? Did you mislead the public?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think if you said “in order to reduce panic,” perhaps that’s so. The fact is, I’m a cheerleader for this country, I love our country, and I don’t want people to be frightened. I don’t want to create panic, as you say. And certainly, I’m not going to drive this country or the world into a frenzy.
We want to show confidence. We want to show strength. We want to show strength as a nation. And that’s what I’ve done. And we’ve done very well. We’ve done well from any standard. You look at our numbers, compared to other countries, other parts of the world. It’s been an amazing job that we’ve done.
I think it’s very sad, in many respects, because the incredible individuals working so hard on it, including our Vice President, they’ve done this great job. They haven’t been acknowledged by the news media — and they should — for the job we’ve done. Whether it’s ventilators — and now, you’ll see very soon, with vaccines and with therapeutics, the job we’ve done has been incredible.
Q But, Mr. President —
THE PRESIDENT: But we don’t want to — we don’t want to instill panic. We don’t want to jump up and down and start shouting that we have a problem that is a — a tremendous problem — scare everybody.
And I’ll tell you the other thing: We immediately started buying. All over the world, we started buying masks and gowns and everything else. And we don’t want to cause pricing to go up to a level that becomes almost unaffordable. So —
Q But, Mr. President —
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, in that sense — so, in that sense, I agree with it.
Yeah, please.
Q Mr. President, how do you reassure the American public, going forward, that they can trust what you’re saying?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that’s really a big part of trust. We have to have leadership. We have to show leadership. And the last thing you want to do is create a panic in the country. This was a horrible thing. It was sent to us by China. It should not have happened — should never have happened. This is a disgusting, terrible situation that was foisted upon us.
And we have to show — we just don’t want to use — the best word is “panic.” We don’t want to have to show panic. We’re not going to show panic. And that’s exactly what I did. And I was very open — whether it’s to Woodward or anybody else. It’s just another political hit job. But whether it was Woodward or anybody else, you cannot show a sense of panic or you’re going to have bigger problems than you ever had before.
Please.
Q Respectfully, sir, your comments amounted to more than trying to reduce panic, sir. On February 7th, you told Woodward —
THE PRESIDENT: Please, please.
Q — “It’s more deadly than [even] your strenuous flu.” But —
THE PRESIDENT: Excuse me, he’s — he’s going.
Q But then, publicly, you weren’t saying that at all.
THE PRESIDENT: Go ahead, please.
Q Look, Mr. President, don’t you think if you were more forthright with the American, more lives could have been saved? Do you take responsibility at all for some of the 200,000 deaths that we’ve had?
THE PRESIDENT: So, I think if we didn’t do what we did, we would have had millions of people die. We closed up our country. We closed it up very, very quickly, very effectively. We did a job. We learned about this horrible disease, along with the rest of the world, which had to learn about it. And then we opened it up. And now we know the vulnerable; we know who it attacks, who it’s so vicious against. And I think we’ve done, from every standpoint, a — a incredible job.
We shouldn’t have lost anybody. Nobody should have lost — China released something that they shouldn’t have been allowed to re- — they should not have released. It came out of China. It went to Europe. It went all over the world. It should have never happened. They could have stopped it. They stopped it from going into the remainder of China. It started in Wuhan, and they stopped it. But they didn’t stop it from coming to our country.
Now, we had to show calm. We had to show — you know, if it was up to you or whoever — I have no idea what he said in the book. And again, it’s a book that — I gave him some quotes and, frankly, we’ll see how the book turned out. I have no idea. You’re asking me questions for the first time.
But, again, the last thing we can show is panic or excitement or fear or anything else. We had to take care of the — we had to take care of the situation we were given.
Now, long before anybody else wanted to do it, I closed our borders to a very heavily infected China. If I didn’t do that, we would have had hundreds of thousands more people die. Dr. Fauci said it. Many people said it. It was a great decision. It was a decision I made and I had to make.
It was a decision that a lot of people thought I was wrong. Nancy Pelosi said I was wrong. Joe Bo- — Biden said I was wrong. They all came back, and they said it was the right decision. And I was way early. That was in January. The end of January, I did that.
So that was a very good thing we did. Otherwise, we would have had hundreds of thousands more. But if we didn’t close the country, we would have been talking about millions of people, instead of the numbers that we have right now.
Go ahead.
Q Mr. President, you mentioned that you were trying to avoid price gouging. But you mentioned to Bob Woodward that you recognized, as this virus spread through the air, in — on February 7th — you didn’t begin Project Air Bridge until March; you didn’t use the Defense Production Act until March; you didn’t start ramping up ventilator production until March.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I mean, you didn’t — you didn’t really think it was going to be to the point where it was. All of a sudden, the world was infected. The entire world was infected. Everyone was scrambling around, looking where to buy facemasks and all of the other things.
We’ve opened up factories. We’ve had tremendous success with facemasks and with shields and with the ventilators. We’re now supplying the rest of the world. We have all the ventilators we can use.
And remember this: The ventilators were very important. Not one person that needed a ventilator didn’t get it. And these are very complex, expensive machines to make. We opened up something like hadn’t been done since the Second World War. We — honestly, we’ve done a — an incredible job.
But we don’t want to run around, screaming, shouting, “Oh, look at this. Look at this.” We have to show leadership. And leadership is all about confidence. And confidence is confidence in our country.
And our people have been great. We’ve been put through a lot by China. By releasing this, by having this come here, we were put through a lot. They could have done something about it, and they chose not to.
I am very honored to have presented to you today a list of 20 incredible people. And we will talk later. I’m sure we’ll be meeting later in the day.
Thank you very much. Thank you.”
Literally speechless after reading this. He really did not present any sort of believable defense on why he decided to downplay the seriousness of this virus
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 9, 2020 23:09:28 GMT
like he knew Mexico would never pay for the wall. He is now suggesting 'toll booths' on the border to pay for HIS wall!
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Post by stittsygirl on Sept 9, 2020 23:14:02 GMT
When he said he “didn’t want to start a panic” he means he didn’t want to start a panic in the stock market. The economy was the biggest thing he had going for him. Even though it appears now he had an idea of how deadly the virus had the potential of being then, I still don’t think he believed it would hit as hard and fast as it did here. I’m sure his hubris led him to believe that Coronavirus would be easier to control in this country than even the H1N1 - under his supreme leadership of course 😡
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Post by peasapie on Sept 10, 2020 14:04:53 GMT
I think that this analysis is spot on. Especially Trump’s belief that he can manipulate anyone he talks to, leaving them with a highly favorable impression of him along with his belief that Woodward’s first book about him would have been positive, if only Trump had talked with him. I agree. He reminds me of the vain Chanticleer in the old fables. Flattery will get you everywhere with DT.
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Post by sassyangel on Sept 10, 2020 14:45:42 GMT
Here is trump’s answer about the tape call between him and Woodward. This is from today’s briefing ”Q Mr. President, can you address the concerns from the Woodward book in regards to whether — did you mislead the public by saying that you downplayed the coronavirus and that you repeatedly did that in order to reduce panic? Did you mislead the public? THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think if you said “in order to reduce panic,” perhaps that’s so. The fact is, I’m a cheerleader for this country, I love our country, and I don’t want people to be frightened. I don’t want to create panic, as you say. And certainly, I’m not going to drive this country or the world into a frenzy. We want to show confidence. We want to show strength. We want to show strength as a nation. And that’s what I’ve done. And we’ve done very well. We’ve done well from any standard. You look at our numbers, compared to other countries, other parts of the world. It’s been an amazing job that we’ve done. I think it’s very sad, in many respects, because the incredible individuals working so hard on it, including our Vice President, they’ve done this great job. They haven’t been acknowledged by the news media — and they should — for the job we’ve done. Whether it’s ventilators — and now, you’ll see very soon, with vaccines and with therapeutics, the job we’ve done has been incredible. Q But, Mr. President — THE PRESIDENT: But we don’t want to — we don’t want to instill panic. We don’t want to jump up and down and start shouting that we have a problem that is a — a tremendous problem — scare everybody. And I’ll tell you the other thing: We immediately started buying. All over the world, we started buying masks and gowns and everything else. And we don’t want to cause pricing to go up to a level that becomes almost unaffordable. So — Q But, Mr. President — THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, in that sense — so, in that sense, I agree with it. Yeah, please. Q Mr. President, how do you reassure the American public, going forward, that they can trust what you’re saying? THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that’s really a big part of trust. We have to have leadership. We have to show leadership. And the last thing you want to do is create a panic in the country. This was a horrible thing. It was sent to us by China. It should not have happened — should never have happened. This is a disgusting, terrible situation that was foisted upon us. And we have to show — we just don’t want to use — the best word is “panic.” We don’t want to have to show panic. We’re not going to show panic. And that’s exactly what I did. And I was very open — whether it’s to Woodward or anybody else. It’s just another political hit job. But whether it was Woodward or anybody else, you cannot show a sense of panic or you’re going to have bigger problems than you ever had before. Please. Q Respectfully, sir, your comments amounted to more than trying to reduce panic, sir. On February 7th, you told Woodward — THE PRESIDENT: Please, please. Q — “It’s more deadly than [even] your strenuous flu.” But — THE PRESIDENT: Excuse me, he’s — he’s going. Q But then, publicly, you weren’t saying that at all. THE PRESIDENT: Go ahead, please. Q Look, Mr. President, don’t you think if you were more forthright with the American, more lives could have been saved? Do you take responsibility at all for some of the 200,000 deaths that we’ve had? THE PRESIDENT: So, I think if we didn’t do what we did, we would have had millions of people die. We closed up our country. We closed it up very, very quickly, very effectively. We did a job. We learned about this horrible disease, along with the rest of the world, which had to learn about it. And then we opened it up. And now we know the vulnerable; we know who it attacks, who it’s so vicious against. And I think we’ve done, from every standpoint, a — a incredible job. We shouldn’t have lost anybody. Nobody should have lost — China released something that they shouldn’t have been allowed to re- — they should not have released. It came out of China. It went to Europe. It went all over the world. It should have never happened. They could have stopped it. They stopped it from going into the remainder of China. It started in Wuhan, and they stopped it. But they didn’t stop it from coming to our country. Now, we had to show calm. We had to show — you know, if it was up to you or whoever — I have no idea what he said in the book. And again, it’s a book that — I gave him some quotes and, frankly, we’ll see how the book turned out. I have no idea. You’re asking me questions for the first time. But, again, the last thing we can show is panic or excitement or fear or anything else. We had to take care of the — we had to take care of the situation we were given. Now, long before anybody else wanted to do it, I closed our borders to a very heavily infected China. If I didn’t do that, we would have had hundreds of thousands more people die. Dr. Fauci said it. Many people said it. It was a great decision. It was a decision I made and I had to make. It was a decision that a lot of people thought I was wrong. Nancy Pelosi said I was wrong. Joe Bo- — Biden said I was wrong. They all came back, and they said it was the right decision. And I was way early. That was in January. The end of January, I did that. So that was a very good thing we did. Otherwise, we would have had hundreds of thousands more. But if we didn’t close the country, we would have been talking about millions of people, instead of the numbers that we have right now. Go ahead. Q Mr. President, you mentioned that you were trying to avoid price gouging. But you mentioned to Bob Woodward that you recognized, as this virus spread through the air, in — on February 7th — you didn’t begin Project Air Bridge until March; you didn’t use the Defense Production Act until March; you didn’t start ramping up ventilator production until March. THE PRESIDENT: Well, I mean, you didn’t — you didn’t really think it was going to be to the point where it was. All of a sudden, the world was infected. The entire world was infected. Everyone was scrambling around, looking where to buy facemasks and all of the other things. We’ve opened up factories. We’ve had tremendous success with facemasks and with shields and with the ventilators. We’re now supplying the rest of the world. We have all the ventilators we can use. And remember this: The ventilators were very important. Not one person that needed a ventilator didn’t get it. And these are very complex, expensive machines to make. We opened up something like hadn’t been done since the Second World War. We — honestly, we’ve done a — an incredible job. But we don’t want to run around, screaming, shouting, “Oh, look at this. Look at this.” We have to show leadership. And leadership is all about confidence. And confidence is confidence in our country. And our people have been great. We’ve been put through a lot by China. By releasing this, by having this come here, we were put through a lot. They could have done something about it, and they chose not to. I am very honored to have presented to you today a list of 20 incredible people. And we will talk later. I’m sure we’ll be meeting later in the day. Thank you very much. Thank you.” Literally speechless after reading this. He really did not present any sort of believable defense on why he decided to downplay the seriousness of this virus I didn’t expect him to, did you? It’s basically indefensible, though.
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Post by elaine on Sept 10, 2020 17:55:11 GMT
I think that this analysis is spot on. Especially Trump’s belief that he can manipulate anyone he talks to, leaving them with a highly favorable impression of him along with his belief that Woodward’s first book about him would have been positive, if only Trump had talked with him. I agree. He reminds me of the vain Chanticleer in the old fables. Flattery will get you everywhere with DT.Yes! Which is an irony that makes him so dangerous as President. He believes that he is the master manipulator, when in fact it is blatantly easy to manipulate him - flatter him and pretend you like him, and he doesn’t care if you are a murderous dictator who has caused the deaths of thousands: he LOVES you and thinks you are a great guy.
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Post by Skellinton on Sept 10, 2020 17:58:45 GMT
So not shocking, kind of surprised it was caught on tape though. Won’t make a bit of difference to his disciples.
God, I hate him so much and I am so scared for November.
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Post by rodeomom on Sept 10, 2020 18:04:04 GMT
I am so mad and sad over this. My son, who lost his wife in July, called yesterday to tell me a guy in his office tested positive for Covid. My son is now quarantined for the next 14 days. If he gets sick who will take care of him? I will of course, but I am 60 and have underlying conditions. We just can not take another hit.
This man has blood on his hands and anyone who votes for him on Nov.3rd will have blood on theirs too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 19:48:16 GMT
Pence knew too.
I spent quite a while trying to think of how Trump would spin this. The tapes are damning, but maybe he could claim that he was lying to Woodward?? He surely sounded serious.
How he could discuss this with Woodward and then "downplay" it and have crowds at his stupid rallies. Clumping people close together and suggesting that masks aren't needed, just seems like murder if he knew what was at stake!? (Yet NOTHING will be done, right?? Again, it'll mean NOTHING and his idiots won't believe a word of it!)
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