brandy327
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Post by brandy327 on Sept 22, 2020 12:09:32 GMT
What's the purpose of a pop quiz?
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Post by brandy327 on Sept 22, 2020 12:39:58 GMT
I am not a teacher but I suppose the purpose is to see if the students are retaining the information they have learned. For instance, if you know a quiz/test is happening...you have studied for it and as soon as the test is over, you may forget it...but a pop quiz may help to show if you are actually retaining what you are learning. Ok that makes sense. One of my dd's is freaked because on week 2 of school they had a pop quiz and didn't do well. She's not a great test taker to begin with so pop quizzes are her nemesis.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 22, 2020 12:56:53 GMT
Go see if the kids actually did their homework without cramming for a test.
Usually, for me, they go over fairly easy ideas or concepts that if you did the homework I ou should be able to answer, but if you didn't there is no way you would know.
I teach hs
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Post by brandy327 on Sept 22, 2020 13:10:04 GMT
Go see if the kids actually did their homework without cramming for a test. Usually, for me, they go over fairly easy ideas or concepts that if you did the homework I ou should be able to answer, but if you didn't there is no way you would know. I teach hs Dd always does her homework. She's really good at time management and is invested in her work. But she isn't a great test taker. She swears up and down she just doesn't have a great memory. The class is an Advanced Biology class. I told her it's 1 grade so she shouldn't worry... but honestly I'm a little worried for her, not that I'd ever tell her that.
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Post by sueg on Sept 22, 2020 13:14:09 GMT
I am not a teacher but I suppose the purpose is to see if the students are retaining the information they have learned. For instance, if you know a quiz/test is happening...you have studied for it and as soon as the test is over, you may forget it...but a pop quiz may help to show if you are actually retaining what you are learning. Ok that makes sense. One of my dd's is freaked because on week 2 of school they had a pop quiz and didn't do well. She's not a great test taker to begin with so pop quizzes are her nemesis. If I gave a pop quiz in week 2, it wouldn’t count for much grade-wise. It would most likely be a baseline test - how much knowledge are the students coming to me with.
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Post by brandy327 on Sept 22, 2020 13:34:37 GMT
Ok that makes sense. One of my dd's is freaked because on week 2 of school they had a pop quiz and didn't do well. She's not a great test taker to begin with so pop quizzes are her nemesis. If I gave a pop quiz in week 2, it wouldn’t count for much grade-wise. It would most likely be a baseline test - how much knowledge are the students coming to me with. The class average was a 60% and she got a 50%. I told her it probably wouldn't count for much but right now it's the only grade in the books so she's upset that it shows she's failing the class. This is my dd that has a hard time seeing the big picture on most things. LOL But I wanted to give her valid reasons for pop quizzes.
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Post by silverlining on Sept 23, 2020 6:16:01 GMT
Sometimes high school teachers give pop quizzes to let kids know that they have to keep up with the daily assignments and not wait before the big test to start studying. Unfortunately, it sounds like your daughter already is keeping up with the work, but she has text anxiety. For an anxious kid, tests that are surprises might be more difficult than larger tests that are expected.
The only thing I can suggest is for her to write down each evening the three most important things she learned from that day's homework, and then in the morning to look over those notes from the last few days so she is prepared for a pop quiz. It might help her feel more in control, and will train her to look for what is most important/what might show up on a quiz.
One more thing- make sure she understands that a score of 50% when the class average is 60% is not terrible. That was a difficult quiz for many of the students.
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Post by nlwilkins on Sept 23, 2020 8:52:51 GMT
As an instructional designer I used to teach the professors I worked with that tests and quizzes were really a means of finding out how good a teacher you were. You need to know if the instruction is getting through or if you need to reteach. A pop quiz is really a good way to determine this as a teacher can determine the effectiveness of different teaching exercises.
But, I suspect the teacher in this case was just wanting the students to settle down and start taking the classwork seriously and pay attention. With all that has been happening students were bound to need it.
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Post by artbabe on Sept 23, 2020 11:11:02 GMT
I don't give pop quizzes but I do give quizzes with one day's notice. I gave one yesterday because I was concerned that during virtual times the kids weren't watching my videos and weren't coming to my Google Meets.
My reasons: 1) To see if the kids were actually paying attention on the virtual days (we are hybrid right now). 2) To remind the kids that they absolutely are responsible for the material I covered. 3) To check if my teaching is effective.
I give them lots of opportunities to get points on different kinds of assignments, too, so the quiz is just a small part of their grade.
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Post by kluski on Sept 23, 2020 16:22:44 GMT
I hated them as a kid and would never do it now, as a teacher.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 23, 2020 16:32:10 GMT
A class average of 60% on a pop quiz is pretty low- is she sure it's not a pretest? My kids have definitely had teachers who want to make sure kids are actually doing the work and not waiting to cram before the exam, so throw pop quizzes in there - I have one who is a crammer, so find them helpful as a parent to remind them about time management. But usually they're pretty straightforward and if you've down the hw, you'll do fine - an average of 60% isn't exactly in line.
Now there are also a few who did pretests to see what kids already know about a unit. There were usually a tiny percent of the grade, mostly as their grading system required something in order to input them and he/she wanted a record of them. So 1-2% of grade was pretests.
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Post by brandy327 on Sept 25, 2020 16:36:24 GMT
Sometimes high school teachers give pop quizzes to let kids know that they have to keep up with the daily assignments and not wait before the big test to start studying. Unfortunately, it sounds like your daughter already is keeping up with the work, but she has text anxiety. For an anxious kid, tests that are surprises might be more difficult than larger tests that are expected. The only thing I can suggest is for her to write down each evening the three most important things she learned from that day's homework, and then in the morning to look over those notes from the last few days so she is prepared for a pop quiz. It might help her feel more in control, and will train her to look for what is most important/what might show up on a quiz. One more thing- make sure she understands that a score of 50% when the class average is 60% is not terrible. That was a difficult quiz for many of the students. All fantastic points! I'll be sure to share those recommendations. Thank you so much.
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Post by brandy327 on Sept 25, 2020 16:41:34 GMT
A class average of 60% on a pop quiz is pretty low- is she sure it's not a pretest? My kids have definitely had teachers who want to make sure kids are actually doing the work and not waiting to cram before the exam, so throw pop quizzes in there - I have one who is a crammer, so find them helpful as a parent to remind them about time management. But usually they're pretty straightforward and if you've down the hw, you'll do fine - an average of 60% isn't exactly in line. Now there are also a few who did pretests to see what kids already know about a unit. There were usually a tiny percent of the grade, mostly as their grading system required something in order to input them and he/she wanted a record of them. So 1-2% of grade was pretests. Nope, definitely not a pretest. She did all the homework - she is not a procrastinator at all and honestly, she'll finish work just to have it done. She takes too many difficult classes and does sports, works etc. to fall behind on class work. Her grade in the class has already gone back up to the A range with some other assignments. She worries because her grades have to be good for sports. She forgets that every year is a learning curve with new teachers - to see how they run the class, what they expect, etc. It takes her a good month or so to feel comfortable with each new teacher.
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