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Post by birukitty on Oct 5, 2020 19:35:19 GMT
Aww fuck! On first hearing the news I thought he was faking all of it, then after reading the Pea thread the first day and reading how many other people from the Rose Garden ceremony have come down with Covid I thought well maybe he does have it. Now I'm back to thinking this has all been an elaborate hoax. Designed as other's have mentioned to take the focus away from Biden's amazing win from the debate, taxes etc. and focus it elsewhere. Mission accomplished. Worse-now he can say what he's said, "Covid-no reason to worry. Look at me. It's barely like having the flu."- or something like that. Which is exactly what so many of us were worried about. That orange bastard has told so many lies who knows what is the truth? I'm pissed because these last few days should have been focused on the election and Biden's victory in the last debate, getting ready for the next debate. Maybe once the the big Cheeto found out he wouldn't be able to cut in all of the time like he did in the first debate (they were already talking about taking additional measures with the second including turning mics off when your turn was over) he got together with his advisers and they hatched out this plan. I don't know and neither does anyone else and that's the problem. As far as the secret service guys go-honestly if he actually had Covid, if it were you would you get into that sealed car with him knowing there's a good chance you'll catch it? They said you can't say no to a president. I get that when it comes to his protection from outside forces. But he's not a dictator with a gun to their heads. If it were me in that position and he was really sick with Covid I'd say "No way am I doing this. This goes beyond my job description." If he argued I'd say "I quit and walk away". Yes I might be poor but it's better than being dead or taking home a potential lethal virus to my family.
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Post by Zee on Oct 5, 2020 19:48:13 GMT
Aww fuck! On first hearing the news I thought he was faking all of it, then after reading the Pea thread the first day and reading how many other people from the Rose Garden ceremony have come down with Covid I thought well maybe he does have it. Now I'm back to thinking this has all been an elaborate hoax. Designed as other's have mentioned to take the focus away from Biden's amazing win from the debate, taxes etc. and focus it elsewhere. Mission accomplished. Worse-now he can say what he's said, "Covid-no reason to worry. Look at me. It's barely like having the flu."- or something like that. Which is exactly what so many of us were worried about. That orange bastard has told so many lies who knows what is the truth? I'm pissed because these last few days should have been focused on the election and Biden's victory in the last debate, getting ready for the next debate. Maybe once the the big Cheeto found out he wouldn't be able to cut in all of the time like he did in the first debate (they were already talking about taking additional measures with the second including turning mics off when your turn was over) he got together with his advisers and they hatched out this plan. I don't know and neither does anyone else and that's the problem. As far as the secret service guys go-honestly if he actually had Covid, if it were you would you get into that sealed car with him knowing there's a good chance you'll catch it? They said you can't say no to a president. I get that when it comes to his protection from outside forces. But he's not a dictator with a gun to their heads. If it were me in that position and he was really sick with Covid I'd say "No way am I doing this. This goes beyond my job description." If he argued I'd say "I quit and walk away". Yes I might be poor but it's better than being dead or taking home a potential lethal virus to my family. I have doubted all this all along but I don't think your point about SS quitting is valid. What do you think nurses do every day? Believe me I've had plenty of exposure wearing nothing but a surgical mask. Certainly they would have N95s, IDK, have you seen otherwise? And you change your clothes before you go home, put those clothes into the washer and shower when you arrive. I certainly wouldn't give up what is probably a pretty good paying job just because of Covid. I just knew this would be a way for the Republicans to let everyone know Hey, it's no big deal, look at how easily I've survived! He's despicable. I am highly highly suspicious of the timing of all of this.
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Post by spitfiregirl on Oct 5, 2020 19:50:41 GMT
Aww fuck! On first hearing the news I thought he was faking all of it, then after reading the Pea thread the first day and reading how many other people from the Rose Garden ceremony have come down with Covid I thought well maybe he does have it. Now I'm back to thinking this has all been an elaborate hoax. Designed as other's have mentioned to take the focus away from Biden's amazing win from the debate, taxes etc. and focus it elsewhere. Mission accomplished. Worse-now he can say what he's said, "Covid-no reason to worry. Look at me. It's barely like having the flu."- or something like that. Which is exactly what so many of us were worried about. That orange bastard has told so many lies who knows what is the truth? I'm pissed because these last few days should have been focused on the election and Biden's victory in the last debate, getting ready for the next debate. Maybe once the the big Cheeto found out he wouldn't be able to cut in all of the time like he did in the first debate (they were already talking about taking additional measures with the second including turning mics off when your turn was over) he got together with his advisers and they hatched out this plan. I don't know and neither does anyone else and that's the problem. As far as the secret service guys go-honestly if he actually had Covid, if it were you would you get into that sealed car with him knowing there's a good chance you'll catch it? They said you can't say no to a president. I get that when it comes to his protection from outside forces. But he's not a dictator with a gun to their heads. If it were me in that position and he was really sick with Covid I'd say "No way am I doing this. This goes beyond my job description." If he argued I'd say "I quit and walk away". Yes I might be poor but it's better than being dead or taking home a potential lethal virus to my family. HE WILL DO ANYTHING TO STAY IN OFFICE. OTHERWISE HES GOING TO JAIL
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Post by twinks on Oct 5, 2020 19:52:15 GMT
I am totally back onboard with this being “fake news” again. He is the one generating “fake news.” I can’t begin to express my extreme dislike and outright hatred for the man. He has no redeeming qualities.
He did this because Biden is pointing out his failures and complete baffoonery in regards to the coronavirus. Biden is ahead in the polls and the numbers went higher after the debate. He also knows he can’t bully Biden. He also knows he doesn’t have a chance with the new rules. He had to make his contracting the coronavirus up. He is a desperate person about now.
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Post by mrssmith on Oct 5, 2020 19:53:53 GMT
Press conference—So they still won’t say when he last tested negative. They also won’t say if he really needed to be in the hospital in the first place. I think he's sicker than they are making out actually. Especially with the info about the edited video and photos of him "working hard" all day that were taken 10 minutes apart.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 5, 2020 19:58:18 GMT
Aww fuck! On first hearing the news I thought he was faking all of it, then after reading the Pea thread the first day and reading how many other people from the Rose Garden ceremony have come down with Covid I thought well maybe he does have it. Now I'm back to thinking this has all been an elaborate hoax. Designed as other's have mentioned to take the focus away from Biden's amazing win from the debate, taxes etc. and focus it elsewhere. Mission accomplished. Worse-now he can say what he's said, "Covid-no reason to worry. Look at me. It's barely like having the flu."- or something like that. Which is exactly what so many of us were worried about. That orange bastard has told so many lies who knows what is the truth? I'm pissed because these last few days should have been focused on the election and Biden's victory in the last debate, getting ready for the next debate. Maybe once the the big Cheeto found out he wouldn't be able to cut in all of the time like he did in the first debate (they were already talking about taking additional measures with the second including turning mics off when your turn was over) he got together with his advisers and they hatched out this plan. I don't know and neither does anyone else and that's the problem. As far as the secret service guys go-honestly if he actually had Covid, if it were you would you get into that sealed car with him knowing there's a good chance you'll catch it? They said you can't say no to a president. I get that when it comes to his protection from outside forces. But he's not a dictator with a gun to their heads. If it were me in that position and he was really sick with Covid I'd say "No way am I doing this. This goes beyond my job description." If he argued I'd say "I quit and walk away". Yes I might be poor but it's better than being dead or taking home a potential lethal virus to my family. I have doubted all this all along but I don't think your point about SS quitting is valid. What do you think nurses do every day? Believe me I've had plenty of exposure wearing nothing but a surgical mask. Certainly they would have N95s, IDK, have you seen otherwise? And you change your clothes before you go home, put those clothes into the washer and shower when you arrive. I certainly wouldn't give up what is probably a pretty good paying job just because of Covid. I just knew this would be a way for the Republicans to let everyone know Hey, it's no big deal, look at how easily I've survived! He's despicable. I am highly highly suspicious of the timing of all of this. Sorry, but working in a hospital and being in a small enclosed space in a hermetically sealed vehicle protected against a chemical attack is not the same thing. I have not seen pictures but I doubt the secret service agents had gowns, gloves, face shields or eyeglasses. I’m married to a nurse practitioner who worked in a covid testing center this spring so I understand the risks to health care workers. But, I think health care workers and the secret service agents are apples and oranges.
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Post by Zee on Oct 5, 2020 20:09:33 GMT
I have doubted all this all along but I don't think your point about SS quitting is valid. What do you think nurses do every day? Believe me I've had plenty of exposure wearing nothing but a surgical mask. Certainly they would have N95s, IDK, have you seen otherwise? And you change your clothes before you go home, put those clothes into the washer and shower when you arrive. I certainly wouldn't give up what is probably a pretty good paying job just because of Covid. I just knew this would be a way for the Republicans to let everyone know Hey, it's no big deal, look at how easily I've survived! He's despicable. I am highly highly suspicious of the timing of all of this. Sorry, but working in a hospital and being in a small enclosed space in a hermetically sealed vehicle protected against a chemical attack is not the same thing. I have not seen pictures but I doubt the secret service agents had gowns, gloves, face shields or eyeglasses. I’m married to a nurse practitioner who worked in a covid testing center this spring so I understand the risks to health care workers. But, I think health care workers and the secret service agents are apples and oranges. I think the general public has this idea that we in the hospital are in full PPE with some kind of negative pressure super ventilation throughout the entire place. It's not. Do you think the SS would be expected to do their jobs with less than the nurses have? WE ARE STILL REUSING N95s. GOWNS ARE RECYCLED. THERE ARE NO MORE WIPES, WE HAVE SPRAY AND WASHCLOTHS WITH A TEN MINUTE KILL TIME. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS SO PATIENTS WITH KNOWN COVID ARE IN REGULAR ROOMS ON ALL FLOORS. I can't tell you enough times how we were screwed over and continue to be screwed over but no one listens. I'm quite sure the SS will have eye protection, N95s, and gloves/hand sanitizer as needed unless you can prove otherwise. A car is no worse than doing a complete bed change and bed bath. They're simply sharing air space, not providing patient care. I'M NOT DEFENDING THAT PIECE OF CRAP but I'm sure tired of hearing about the SS and how hospitals are so much safer than anywhere else. What we need are more supplies and I can't believe it's still a problem, months into this shit. Wherever these magical infection-free hospitals are, I want to know.
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 5, 2020 20:27:58 GMT
Sorry, but working in a hospital and being in a small enclosed space in a hermetically sealed vehicle protected against a chemical attack is not the same thing. I have not seen pictures but I doubt the secret service agents had gowns, gloves, face shields or eyeglasses. I’m married to a nurse practitioner who worked in a covid testing center this spring so I understand the risks to health care workers. But, I think health care workers and the secret service agents are apples and oranges. I think the general public has this idea that we in the hospital are in full PPE with some kind of negative pressure super ventilation throughout the entire place. It's not. Do you think the SS would be expected to do their jobs with less than the nurses have? WE ARE STILL REUSING N95s. GOWNS ARE RECYCLED. THERE ARE NO MORE WIPES, WE HAVE SPRAY AND WASHCLOTHS WITH A TEN MINUTE KILL TIME. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS SO PATIENTS WITH KNOWN COVID ARE IN REGULAR ROOMS ON ALL FLOORS. I can't tell you enough times how we were screwed over and continue to be screwed over but no one listens. I'm quite sure the SS will have eye protection, N95s, and gloves/hand sanitizer as needed unless you can prove otherwise. A car is no worse than doing a complete bed change and bed bath. They're simply sharing air space, not providing patient care. I'M NOT DEFENDING THAT PIECE OF CRAP but I'm sure tired of hearing about the SS and how hospitals are so much safer than anywhere else. What we need are more supplies and I can't believe it's still a problem, months into this shit. Wherever these magical infection-free hospitals are, I want to know. I’ve heard the same. IMO, unless every healthcare worker has enough PPE to use them exactly as intended, which means enough for lots of multiple changes per shift - then they don’t have enough as far as I’m concerned, and their safety is compromised.
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Post by tinydogmafia on Oct 5, 2020 20:42:15 GMT
Do you think the SS would be expected to do their jobs with less than the nurses have? WE ARE STILL REUSING N95s. GOWNS ARE RECYCLED. THERE ARE NO MORE WIPES, WE HAVE SPRAY AND WASHCLOTHS WITH A TEN MINUTE KILL TIME. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS SO PATIENTS WITH KNOWN COVID ARE IN REGULAR ROOMS ON ALL FLOORS. Thank you. As a nurse that has had to wear a damn trash bag for PPE... I am outraged. For everyone in that circus that has been forced to be in contact with this asshole. Unless you work with it, you have NO IDEA the lengths we go to, to prevent the spread to patients and ourselves and our loved ones. As I mentioned earlier, my SO has a reoccurrence of cancer that has metastasized everywhere. My WORST FEAR is to bring it home to him. I'm stripping in the garage, scrubs straight to wash, immediately to the shower, we sleep apart, I scrub everything constantly. And I fear every day I will lose him. EVERY DAY. I am enraged that this piece of shit president has made it into "No big deal." "Best I've felt in 20 years!" He doesn't care about anyone but himself. 200k dead, "It is what it is." Fuck you Trump. Yes I'm angry. I apologize. The weight of the world seems to be on my shoulders. I'm stressed. I'm worried. I'm sad.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 5, 2020 20:43:00 GMT
First and foremost he is a con and a grifter and saw a situation that he could exploit. I believe Nikki Haley Hope Hicks and all the others do have it but he does not. When Haley Hicks came down with it he did what a con does. It was a perfect opportunity to play sick and to get sympathy and get the focus off of his taxes, that debate and Melanoma's tape-gate. It is working like a charm.
Since claiming he is infected there has been not one mention of that ridiculous debate, Melania's tape-gate or his taxes. I don't believe he has COVID-19.
He'll have to die to prove it to me.
ETA: Hope Hicks not Nikki Haley.
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Post by elaine on Oct 5, 2020 20:43:56 GMT
Do you think the SS would be expected to do their jobs with less than the nurses have? WE ARE STILL REUSING N95s. GOWNS ARE RECYCLED. THERE ARE NO MORE WIPES, WE HAVE SPRAY AND WASHCLOTHS WITH A TEN MINUTE KILL TIME. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS SO PATIENTS WITH KNOWN COVID ARE IN REGULAR ROOMS ON ALL FLOORS. Thank you. As a nurse that has had to wear a damn trash bag for PPE... I am outraged. For everyone in that circus that has been forced to be in contact with this asshole. Unless you work with it, you have NO IDEA the lengths we go to, to prevent the spread to patients and ourselves and our loved ones. As I mentioned earlier, my SO has a reoccurrence of cancer that has metastasized everywhere. My WORST FEAR is to bring it home to him. I'm stripping in the garage, scrubs straight to wash, immediately to the shower, we sleep apart, I scrub everything constantly. And I fear every day I will lose him. EVERY DAY. I am enraged that this piece of shit president has made it into "No big deal." "Best I've felt in 20 years!" He doesn't care about anyone but himself. 200k dead, "It is what it is." Fuck you Trump. Yes I'm angry. I apologize. The weight of the world seems to be on my shoulders. I'm stressed. I'm worried. I'm sad. (((Hugs))) and thank you for the important work that you do.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 5, 2020 20:48:59 GMT
If he was really, truly fleeing poorly he would be inna bed. Not worried about his fans, yucking it up with his doctors, or taking a drive. I be,wives he has tested positive, but I don't buy that he was deathly ill. At least not yet. He was worried about getting really sick and was scared. Kind of like we all get when we are sick and it is worse in the middle of the night. Just like when he went in the bunker during protests. He is also trying to play both sides--he is. It's really sick and it's no big deal at the same time.
I do understand that most people recover and that is reassuring. But we have now had well over 200,000 people die in less than 7 months. Clearly not all are recovering. For him and his people to blow off all precautions is pure negligence.
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Post by elaine on Oct 5, 2020 21:00:19 GMT
If he was really, truly fleeing poorly he would be inna bed. Not worried about his fans, yucking it up with his doctors, or taking a drive. I be,wives he has tested positive, but I don't buy that he was deathly ill. At least not yet. He was worried about getting really sick and was scared. Kind of like we all get when we are sick and it is worse in the middle of the night. Just like when he went in the bunker during protests. He is also trying to play both sides--he is. It's really sick and it's no big deal at the same time. I do understand that most people recover and that is reassuring. But we have now had well over 200,000 people die in less than 7 months. Clearly not all are recovering. For him and his people to blow off all precautions is pure negligence. I guess that I would just add that even while in the midst of grueling chemotherapy (during which I’ve never felt more sick in my life), on the days where I was pumped up on steroids, I couldn’t sit still, let alone stay in bed. I don’t know whether his behavior is due to him being pumped full of steroids, or not being very sick. Even Don Jr. thinks his father is acting irrationally and needs an intervention: www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/don-jr-thinks-trump-is-acting-crazy-presidents-covid-joyride-has-family-divided
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Post by Skellinton on Oct 5, 2020 21:17:18 GMT
If he was really, truly fleeing poorly he would be inna bed. Not worried about his fans, yucking it up with his doctors, or taking a drive. I be,wives he has tested positive, but I don't buy that he was deathly ill. At least not yet. He was worried about getting really sick and was scared. Kind of like we all get when we are sick and it is worse in the middle of the night. Just like when he went in the bunker during protests. He is also trying to play both sides--he is. It's really sick and it's no big deal at the same time. I do understand that most people recover and that is reassuring. But we have now had well over 200,000 people die in less than 7 months. Clearly not all are recovering. For him and his people to blow off all precautions is pure negligence. I guess that I would just add that even while in the midst of grueling chemotherapy (during which I’ve never felt more sick in my life), on the days where I was pumped up on steroids, I couldn’t sit still, let alone stay in bed. I don’t know whether his behavior is due to him being pumped full of steroids, or not being very sick. Even Don Jr. thinks his father is acting irrationally and needs an intervention: www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/don-jr-thinks-trump-is-acting-crazy-presidents-covid-joyride-has-family-dividedI was on steroids once, I was so amped up I barely slept and had tons of energy, but damn, I was cranky too. I think the doctor said he would be getting one more dose tonight or tomorrow, I think that is when they will see how he is really doing. I wonder if he declines if they will give him more and what point they will stop. The steroids I was on they had to taper me off over several days, these must be different though since they don’t seem to be doing that?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 5, 2020 21:25:50 GMT
Every case is different, but I've heard of too many cases where the second week is worse than the first to assume anything at this point. Could the Regeneron have helped - sure - I do think that he was symptomatic if they rushed to remdesivir and dexamethasone as they both are typically used on sicker patients as they do have side effects. I've also heard too many say that the steroid will make you feel great for 48 hours, but then.... there is still so, so much randomness in whether you develop severe symptoms. Yes age is a huge risk factor, but the one study of the homeless center in Boston showed just how bizarrely some very, very unhealthy, older people can be completely asymptomatic. And while it's a serious deadly disease, but the vast majority of people do recover, so I think anyone thinking if he doesn't die he didn't get it are really stretching. Even in the most at risk 80+ the highest CFR I've seen is Italy's 20% and we all know that's not a statistic relevant for him as he isn't going to be dealing with over run hospitals and running out of ventilators.
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Post by MissBianca on Oct 5, 2020 21:27:15 GMT
I was on steroids once, I was so amped up I barely slept and had tons of energy, but damn, I was cranky too. I think the doctor said he would be getting one more dose tonight or tomorrow, I think that is when they will see how he is really doing. I wonder if he declines if they will give him more and what point they will stop. The steroids I was on they had to taper me off over several days, these must be different though since they don’t seem to be doing that? I actually see them keeping him on steroids until after the election. He will stay amped up and lively. Can you imagine him at a rally? That will be a look at me, I’ve never felt better vs a sleepy Joe. No one cares about us actual health, they just want Trump to win. Now once he’s off the roids, that’s another story.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 5, 2020 21:31:22 GMT
Sorry, but working in a hospital and being in a small enclosed space in a hermetically sealed vehicle protected against a chemical attack is not the same thing. I have not seen pictures but I doubt the secret service agents had gowns, gloves, face shields or eyeglasses. I’m married to a nurse practitioner who worked in a covid testing center this spring so I understand the risks to health care workers. But, I think health care workers and the secret service agents are apples and oranges. I think the general public has this idea that we in the hospital are in full PPE with some kind of negative pressure super ventilation throughout the entire place. It's not. Do you think the SS would be expected to do their jobs with less than the nurses have? WE ARE STILL REUSING N95s. GOWNS ARE RECYCLED. THERE ARE NO MORE WIPES, WE HAVE SPRAY AND WASHCLOTHS WITH A TEN MINUTE KILL TIME. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS SO PATIENTS WITH KNOWN COVID ARE IN REGULAR ROOMS ON ALL FLOORS. I can't tell you enough times how we were screwed over and continue to be screwed over but no one listens. I'm quite sure the SS will have eye protection, N95s, and gloves/hand sanitizer as needed unless you can prove otherwise. A car is no worse than doing a complete bed change and bed bath. They're simply sharing air space, not providing patient care. I'M NOT DEFENDING THAT PIECE OF CRAP but I'm sure tired of hearing about the SS and how hospitals are so much safer than anywhere else. What we need are more supplies and I can't believe it's still a problem, months into this shit. Wherever these magical infection-free hospitals are, I want to know. Part of what bothers me about this is that it was unnecessary. Healthcare workers are exposed doing necessary things to help people. This was just for a photo op and to stroke his ego. It looked like trump was wearing his cloth mask with the seal on it. The person in the passenger seat had a white cone-looking mask on. Now they are saying there was a plexiglass in between the front seat and back but I would like to see proof of that before I believe it. I also think that healthcare workers should have adequate ppe and if they don’t, should make noise about it.
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Post by craftykitten on Oct 5, 2020 21:32:21 GMT
I was on steroids once, I was so amped up I barely slept and had tons of energy, but damn, I was cranky too. I think the doctor said he would be getting one more dose tonight or tomorrow, I think that is when they will see how he is really doing. I wonder if he declines if they will give him more and what point they will stop. The steroids I was on they had to taper me off over several days, these must be different though since they don’t seem to be doing that? I think short courses of steroids can be stopped without tapering. I have been on low dose prednisone for years and can't stop it suddenly. I had steroid psychosis when I was on a high dose of prednisone...I felt completely numb and fantasised about cutting my arms open to see if the blood would hurt. In the end I had to confess to OH so that he could keep an eye on me, and they let me reduce the dose. I think i read that DT is on the equivalent of 40mg prednisone, I was taking 80mg at that point. It's such a horrible, manic energy. I was filing my tax return at the time, I truly don't see how DT can run a country.
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Post by scorpeao on Oct 5, 2020 21:39:21 GMT
The fact that Trump may recover from this, when so many decent and innocent people have not, is further proof to me that there is no god. Miserable fucker. Right? I was all ready to start going to church too.
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Post by J u l e e on Oct 5, 2020 21:46:16 GMT
Do you think the SS would be expected to do their jobs with less than the nurses have? WE ARE STILL REUSING N95s. GOWNS ARE RECYCLED. THERE ARE NO MORE WIPES, WE HAVE SPRAY AND WASHCLOTHS WITH A TEN MINUTE KILL TIME. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS SO PATIENTS WITH KNOWN COVID ARE IN REGULAR ROOMS ON ALL FLOORS. Thank you. As a nurse that has had to wear a damn trash bag for PPE... I am outraged. For everyone in that circus that has been forced to be in contact with this asshole. Unless you work with it, you have NO IDEA the lengths we go to, to prevent the spread to patients and ourselves and our loved ones. As I mentioned earlier, my SO has a reoccurrence of cancer that has metastasized everywhere. My WORST FEAR is to bring it home to him. I'm stripping in the garage, scrubs straight to wash, immediately to the shower, we sleep apart, I scrub everything constantly. And I fear every day I will lose him. EVERY DAY. I am enraged that this piece of shit president has made it into "No big deal." "Best I've felt in 20 years!" He doesn't care about anyone but himself. 200k dead, "It is what it is." Fuck you Trump. Yes I'm angry. I apologize. The weight of the world seems to be on my shoulders. I'm stressed. I'm worried. I'm sad. Damn. I hear you. I’m mad and so sorry and my heart is heavy reading that. (((HUGS)))
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Post by koontz on Oct 5, 2020 21:49:29 GMT
Do you think the SS would be expected to do their jobs with less than the nurses have? WE ARE STILL REUSING N95s. GOWNS ARE RECYCLED. THERE ARE NO MORE WIPES, WE HAVE SPRAY AND WASHCLOTHS WITH A TEN MINUTE KILL TIME. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS SO PATIENTS WITH KNOWN COVID ARE IN REGULAR ROOMS ON ALL FLOORS. Thank you. As a nurse that has had to wear a damn trash bag for PPE... I am outraged. For everyone in that circus that has been forced to be in contact with this asshole. Unless you work with it, you have NO IDEA the lengths we go to, to prevent the spread to patients and ourselves and our loved ones. As I mentioned earlier, my SO has a reoccurrence of cancer that has metastasized everywhere. My WORST FEAR is to bring it home to him. I'm stripping in the garage, scrubs straight to wash, immediately to the shower, we sleep apart, I scrub everything constantly. And I fear every day I will lose him. EVERY DAY. I am enraged that this piece of shit president has made it into "No big deal." "Best I've felt in 20 years!" He doesn't care about anyone but himself. 200k dead, "It is what it is." Fuck you Trump. Yes I'm angry. I apologize. The weight of the world seems to be on my shoulders. I'm stressed. I'm worried. I'm sad. Wow. That is a lot to deal with. I admire you for continuing to care for others under these extreme circumstances.
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Post by hopemax on Oct 5, 2020 22:02:36 GMT
I am surprised that he is being discharged today. However I don’t think he never had COVID. I think this is him once again thinking he understands medicine more than the doctors. He doesn’t understand the effects of the steroid. He announced the discharge to force it to happen. He’ll either end up back at Walter Reed in about 2 days (if he actually leaves today) or he will be miserable at the White House trying to keep up appearances. IMO, he and his enablers think they can control the situation better from the White House. But that way could be very dangerous.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 5, 2020 22:13:19 GMT
I am surprised that he is being discharged today. However I don’t think he never had COVID. I think this is him once again thinking he understands medicine more than the doctors. He doesn’t understand the effects of the steroid. He announced the discharge to force it to happen. He’ll either end up back at Walter Reed in about 2 days (if he actually leaves today) or he will be miserable at the White House trying to keep up appearances. IMO, he and his enablers think they can control the situation better from the White House. But that way could be very dangerous. Maybe the move back to the WH was to better control the narrative. Have no idea if he has it. I go back and forth on that. Was hoping against hope he would gain a bit of empathy from having it but nope just using it to pump himself up because it’s always just about him. I just don’t get the extreme ways his fans adore him. It’s just crazy. It’s like he is a rock star vs a politician and he just eats it up. Seeing in print that Jr is worried about his mental health isn’t going to go well for him I bet his dad will be furious.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 5, 2020 22:13:49 GMT
Do you think the SS would be expected to do their jobs with less than the nurses have? WE ARE STILL REUSING N95s. GOWNS ARE RECYCLED. THERE ARE NO MORE WIPES, WE HAVE SPRAY AND WASHCLOTHS WITH A TEN MINUTE KILL TIME. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NEGATIVE PRESSURE ROOMS SO PATIENTS WITH KNOWN COVID ARE IN REGULAR ROOMS ON ALL FLOORS. Thank you. As a nurse that has had to wear a damn trash bag for PPE... I am outraged. For everyone in that circus that has been forced to be in contact with this asshole. Unless you work with it, you have NO IDEA the lengths we go to, to prevent the spread to patients and ourselves and our loved ones. As I mentioned earlier, my SO has a reoccurrence of cancer that has metastasized everywhere. My WORST FEAR is to bring it home to him. I'm stripping in the garage, scrubs straight to wash, immediately to the shower, we sleep apart, I scrub everything constantly. And I fear every day I will lose him. EVERY DAY. I am enraged that this piece of shit president has made it into "No big deal." "Best I've felt in 20 years!" He doesn't care about anyone but himself. 200k dead, "It is what it is." Fuck you Trump. Yes I'm angry. I apologize. The weight of the world seems to be on my shoulders. I'm stressed. I'm worried. I'm sad. Oh my. You do have the weight of the world on your shoulders. I wish I could help in some way. Absolutely no need to apologize for stating your case at all. Sending warm thoughts to you and your husband.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 5, 2020 22:13:59 GMT
I am surprised that he is being discharged today. However I don’t think he never had COVID. I think this is him once again thinking he understands medicine more than the doctors. He doesn’t understand the effects of the steroid. He announced the discharge to force it to happen. He’ll either end up back at Walter Reed in about 2 days (if he actually leaves today) or he will be miserable at the White House trying to keep up appearances. IMO, he and his enablers think they can control the situation better from the White House. But that way could be very dangerous. The White House has a pretty extensive medical facility in house with I think I read somewhere 22 staff.
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Post by Skellinton on Oct 5, 2020 22:14:51 GMT
I was on steroids once, I was so amped up I barely slept and had tons of energy, but damn, I was cranky too. I think the doctor said he would be getting one more dose tonight or tomorrow, I think that is when they will see how he is really doing. I wonder if he declines if they will give him more and what point they will stop. The steroids I was on they had to taper me off over several days, these must be different though since they don’t seem to be doing that? I think short courses of steroids can be stopped without tapering. I have been on low dose prednisone for years and can't stop it suddenly. I had steroid psychosis when I was on a high dose of prednisone...I felt completely numb and fantasised about cutting my arms open to see if the blood would hurt. In the end I had to confess to OH so that he could keep an eye on me, and they let me reduce the dose. I think i read that DT is on the equivalent of 40mg prednisone, I was taking 80mg at that point. It's such a horrible, manic energy. I was filing my tax return at the time, I truly don't see how DT can run a country. It was prednisone I was on due to a severe allergic reaction on an incision. I was only on for a week. Basically I took two normal days then tapered off. The next few days will be telling I think.
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Post by pixiechick on Oct 5, 2020 22:16:26 GMT
That was my exact point. Glad we're on the same page about it. If you'll read my original response to this thread on I think page 11, you'll see my stance is not what you're saying it is. You can find it repeated again recently in this same thread. You'll see again, we're on the same page about the mask wearing of this administration. Good to know we’re on the same page about mask wearing. However, if you’re calling out the BLM protests for not social distancing, where are your posts calling out the administration for the Oklahoma and Nevada rallies? Or any of his other recent rallies? For the Republican National Convention on the White House lawn? For the nomination ceremony in the Rose Garden? For the Trump supporters on the street near Walter Reed?I'm not calling them out, I simply disagreed with someone that they weren't spreading the virus at the peaceful protests. I think people have a right to protest what they believe needs protesting. Though if you're calling out all of those, where are your posts calling out peaceful protests? It does go both ways.
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Post by craftykitten on Oct 5, 2020 22:16:49 GMT
I think short courses of steroids can be stopped without tapering. I have been on low dose prednisone for years and can't stop it suddenly. I had steroid psychosis when I was on a high dose of prednisone...I felt completely numb and fantasised about cutting my arms open to see if the blood would hurt. In the end I had to confess to OH so that he could keep an eye on me, and they let me reduce the dose. I think i read that DT is on the equivalent of 40mg prednisone, I was taking 80mg at that point. It's such a horrible, manic energy. I was filing my tax return at the time, I truly don't see how DT can run a country. It was prednisone I was on due to a severe allergic reaction on an incision. I was only on for a week. Basically I took two normal days then tapered off. The next few days will be telling I think. I agree.
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Post by birukitty on Oct 5, 2020 22:22:37 GMT
Aww fuck! On first hearing the news I thought he was faking all of it, then after reading the Pea thread the first day and reading how many other people from the Rose Garden ceremony have come down with Covid I thought well maybe he does have it. Now I'm back to thinking this has all been an elaborate hoax. Designed as other's have mentioned to take the focus away from Biden's amazing win from the debate, taxes etc. and focus it elsewhere. Mission accomplished. Worse-now he can say what he's said, "Covid-no reason to worry. Look at me. It's barely like having the flu."- or something like that. Which is exactly what so many of us were worried about. That orange bastard has told so many lies who knows what is the truth? I'm pissed because these last few days should have been focused on the election and Biden's victory in the last debate, getting ready for the next debate. Maybe once the the big Cheeto found out he wouldn't be able to cut in all of the time like he did in the first debate (they were already talking about taking additional measures with the second including turning mics off when your turn was over) he got together with his advisers and they hatched out this plan. I don't know and neither does anyone else and that's the problem. As far as the secret service guys go-honestly if he actually had Covid, if it were you would you get into that sealed car with him knowing there's a good chance you'll catch it? They said you can't say no to a president. I get that when it comes to his protection from outside forces. But he's not a dictator with a gun to their heads. If it were me in that position and he was really sick with Covid I'd say "No way am I doing this. This goes beyond my job description." If he argued I'd say "I quit and walk away". Yes I might be poor but it's better than being dead or taking home a potential lethal virus to my family. I have doubted all this all along but I don't think your point about SS quitting is valid. What do you think nurses do every day? Believe me I've had plenty of exposure wearing nothing but a surgical mask. Certainly they would have N95s, IDK, have you seen otherwise? And you change your clothes before you go home, put those clothes into the washer and shower when you arrive. I certainly wouldn't give up what is probably a pretty good paying job just because of Covid. I just knew this would be a way for the Republicans to let everyone know Hey, it's no big deal, look at how easily I've survived! He's despicable. I am highly highly suspicious of the timing of all of this. But did the SS guys wear masks? I thought everyone around him didn't wear masks. If they were allowed to wear masks then yes, of course I agree with what you've posted. If they are not permitted to wear masks, or didn't then that makes me more suspicious that Trump doesn't actually have Covid. I didn't watch any of the live coverage or any of the video afterwards, so I didn't get a look at whether the SS guys had on masks or not.
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