justhanging
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Post by justhanging on Oct 23, 2020 4:14:48 GMT
Has anyone received a refund from the expo yet? Supposedly they were to start once they started the virtual expo but I haven’t heard about anyone receiving one. I am losing hope of getting my refund.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Oct 23, 2020 17:23:34 GMT
Since no one has responded, I’ll try to reply. At least it will bring your thread to the top.
First, a disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Expo, any venues, vendors, or anything/anyone associated with any of them. This is just my opinon based on what I have read (and it has been awhile since I read anything on this topic):
I don’t know which Expo location you were going to attend. From what I read, some venues would not refund money to the Expo folks. If Expo couldn’t get a refund, then neither could its customers. If I understood correctly, the virtual Expos have been an attempt to make the shopping & classes available virtually, since refunds were not an option in some cases. It may not have been as nice as staying in a hotel room and real life shopping and class experience, but it was something. If the customer had booked and paid ahead of time for a hotel room, I assume that it would have been up to the customer to demand a refund from the hotel under those circumstances.
Queen & Company sent its customers the Queen for a Day freebies PLUS a voucher with a value comparable to the cost of the Queen for a Day event. I doubt they made any money, and they may have lost money, but most of their customers were happy. The vendors who offered classes should have either made the class available online, mailed your class kit, or refunded your money, but that is totally an assumption on my part.
I have no dog in this fight. I tend to procrastinate and just pay at the door. Once in a blue moon, I will sign up early if I want to take a class, but I would expect at least to get the class kit if convention was cancelled. I never signed up for any conventions this year, because I knew that COVID-19 could result in cancellations. I never stay at a hotel, anyway. I’d rather use the hotel money to buy more products/tools.
I don’t know if you are new here (if so, welcome!), or if you have just signed up with a new name because you are hesitant to bring this subject up under your real name for some reason. If you had put down a chunk of money and got nothing in return, I think you should contact the Expo directly.
Or maybe someone else will see this and chime in with better information than I can give you.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Oct 23, 2020 18:53:45 GMT
So did they change from issuing gift certificates to actually refunding? I didn't sign up this year because I had a conflict but people in the Expo facebook group I was in said they weren't giving money back.
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Post by walkerdill on Oct 23, 2020 20:42:26 GMT
I inquired about it on 9/3 and this was the response:
Hello,
Unfortunately the refunds will take months to complete, without the ability to have our regular shows because they are all being cancelled we have very limited income. We have had to re-invent the way we do business and have started doing Virtual events. These events do not bring in the same revenue.
We are working hard to do what we can to be able to eventually offer refunds to all who have requested one. All names, order information and amounts owed are on a spreadsheet. The refunds will be given in the order that the orders were received during Pre-registration.
Thank you for your continued patience during this time.
Sincerely,
Cindy
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Oct 23, 2020 22:52:17 GMT
If I paid for an event, and the event was cancelled, I would expect a refund to my credit card within 7-10 business days time frame of the event being cancelled. If the refund did not happen, I would file a dispute with my credit card company.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 5:24:53 GMT
If I paid for an event, and the event was cancelled, I would expect a refund to my credit card within 7-10 business days time frame of the event being cancelled. If the refund did not happen, I would file a dispute with my credit card company. I agree. I had purchased tickets to a concert for my son and I and it was cancelled. My cc was refunded within 2 weeks of the notice of cancellation. Simply put, you did not get the service you paid for. I would file a dispute.
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gramma
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Post by gramma on Oct 25, 2020 6:26:54 GMT
I also have no dog in this fight. There are two chains of events that happen in these sorts of events. The "show", in this case ScrapExpo, sets it's event schedule. Then they enter into contracts with the locations. In Sacramento that is the convention center downtown or CalExpo. They pay big deposits. Then they publish their schedule and begin to collect pre registrations. In the meantime ScrapExpo is continuing to meet their payroll and operating cost obligations.
Now here comes Covid
Venues are cancelling events due to state and local restrictions. ScrapExpo asks for deposit refunds. Venues say "Sorry, we have no money. No events means no income". CalExpo has laid off the majority of it's employees. A venue that has dozens of shows a year has had none. Who's at the end of this chain? Us.
Just a little different perspective.
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lazorkay
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Post by lazorkay on Nov 10, 2020 13:25:21 GMT
I called about 2 weeks ago and was told that they have over 3500 refund requests and no $ to process them. I"m thinking of using part of my now "gift certificate" for one of their virtual class boxes.
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Post by questioning on Nov 12, 2020 0:50:37 GMT
I also have no dog in this fight. There are two chains of events that happen in these sorts of events. The "show", in this case ScrapExpo, sets it's event schedule. Then they enter into contracts with the locations. In Sacramento that is the convention center downtown or CalExpo. They pay big deposits. Then they publish their schedule and begin to collect pre registrations. In the meantime ScrapExpo is continuing to meet their payroll and operating cost obligations. Now here comes Covid Venues are cancelling events due to state and local restrictions. ScrapExpo asks for deposit refunds. Venues say "Sorry, we have no money. No events means no income". CalExpo has laid off the majority of it's employees. A venue that has dozens of shows a year has had none. Who's at the end of this chain? Us. Just a little different perspective. Thanks for the different view. I hadn't planned on attending, so again one less dog in this fight. But your idea applies to many other small businesses. I have an older (actually elderly) family member who owns two rental homes - hardly an empire, and they're in a small town, not a high cost area. They've given grace to the tenant unable to pay rent, but how long can they continue to do it? They've, landlord, has been diagnosed with a medical condition and the monthly drug cost equals the rental income. Goodwill is going to run head on into survival soon. Sorry for getting off topic. I hope the Expo owners are actively contacting those advanced payments.
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