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Post by paigepea on Oct 29, 2020 2:34:45 GMT
Dd 15 has 3 besties. They hung out a lot over covid - outside. During the summer they slept under the stars just to be able to have sleepovers.
They were meeting in one yard for Halloween. The yard is the size of a public park. They have a tented area that can seat 25 comfortably. This week our gov’t passed a law saying your family plus 6 guests only on your property. This girl invited the 3 besties plus 4 school friends. So that’s 7. So I tell dd she can’t go, which brings their number down to a legal 6.
It’s bad luck and dd is sad (she’ll get over it next week) and I feel pissy over Covid. Please no judgement. I know this is a totally minor and unimportant thing. I just hate covid. I feel like I’d take it all on myself if life could just be normal for my girls.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 29, 2020 2:36:38 GMT
You do what is best for your family, but in this case, I'd let my kid go. But we are full in-person school here, so they are around each other anyway
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Post by paigepea on Oct 29, 2020 2:38:04 GMT
We are full in person school too but this is gov’t mandated. It’s not just a recommendation. The point is that it’s law. The cohort at school is there for convenience so the kids can attend school. It isn’t supposed to influence what happens out of school. Ugh. I wish they’d cancelled Halloween.
One Heath authority over from us they said no guests in your house.
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Post by myshelly on Oct 29, 2020 2:48:50 GMT
Why would you tell your DD she can’t go? Shouldn’t it be up to the hosts to worry about taking it down to the right number?
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Post by christine58 on Oct 29, 2020 2:50:09 GMT
Why would your daughter’s best friend invite more people than she was supposed to? And why did you decide that it was your daughter that couldn’t go? Sounds to me like there was poor planning on someone’s part
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Post by leannec on Oct 29, 2020 2:57:31 GMT
She's a bestie and she doesn't get to go? That doesn't seem right That girl invited too many people
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Post by tracylynn on Oct 29, 2020 2:57:39 GMT
Why would you tell your DD she can’t go? Shouldn’t it be up to the hosts to worry about taking it down to the right number? Because she's the mother making the right choices for her family. And regardless of whose home they are at, they are all breaking the law. I'm sorry you're frustrated. I get it. Hopefully she understands.
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Post by paigepea on Oct 29, 2020 3:00:57 GMT
Why would you tell your DD she can’t go? Shouldn’t it be up to the hosts to worry about taking it down to the right number? Because the host doesn’t seem to care but I do. It is up to the host but she wasn’t doing anything.
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Post by paigepea on Oct 29, 2020 3:01:57 GMT
Why would your daughter’s best friend invite more people than she was supposed to? And why did you decide that it was your daughter that couldn’t go? Sounds to me like there was poor planning on someone’s part Because the friend doesn’t have a parent who cares and I care about following the rules.
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Post by Linda on Oct 29, 2020 3:29:09 GMT
((((Hugs))) I'm sorry.
DD20 has 2 close friends here and the three of them have been doing stuff as a trio for years (since she was about 14, I think). Neither family is as concerned as we are and the other 2 girls have been hanging out, sleeping over, taking day trips etc...This week they are all camping with the horses (and sharing a tent). Typically DD20 would be with them for all that but not right now. She's a little concerned that since they've stopped inviting her (probably because she always says no - since March), when she IS able again, they will have moved on. It's hard...
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Post by Lexica on Oct 29, 2020 3:43:04 GMT
Why would your daughter’s best friend invite more people than she was supposed to? And why did you decide that it was your daughter that couldn’t go? Sounds to me like there was poor planning on someone’s part Because the friend doesn’t have a parent who cares and I care about following the rules. Good for you! If all people were behaving like you this virus would be just about gone by now. Instead, people keep doing what they shouldn't be doing and it is sticking around with more and more people being infected. You are doing the right thing, Mom. Your daughter may be bummed, but she will respect you for this when she gets older. And I respect you for your decision right now! Think of this as character building for your children.
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Post by paigepea on Oct 29, 2020 3:47:53 GMT
Because the friend doesn’t have a parent who cares and I care about following the rules. Good for you! If all people were behaving like you this virus would be just about gone by now. Instead, people keep doing what they shouldn't be doing and it is sticking around with more and more people being infected. You are doing the right thing, Mom. Your daughter may be bummed, but she will respect you for this when she gets older. And I respect you for your decision right now! Think of this as character building for your children. I’m not so great. I do have a plan for a call with the mom tomorrow. I know her so well. I’m going to explain our position. I wouldn’t be mean but she’ll provably know I’m feeling pissy. I want to see if the 3 besties might be able to come to our yard for a visit beforehand. If not at least I tried. I’ll even drive the kids back and forth.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 29, 2020 9:11:27 GMT
Good for you! If all people were behaving like you this virus would be just about gone by now. Instead, people keep doing what they shouldn't be doing and it is sticking around with more and more people being infected. You are doing the right thing, Mom. Your daughter may be bummed, but she will respect you for this when she gets older. And I respect you for your decision right now! Think of this as character building for your children. I’m not so great. I do have a plan for a call with the mom tomorrow. I know her so well. I’m going to explain our position. I wouldn’t be mean but she’ll provably know I’m feeling pissy. I want to see if the 3 besties might be able to come to our yard for a visit beforehand. If not at least I tried. I’ll even drive the kids back and forth. why would having multiple non related kids in a car for a period of time be safer that an outdoor visit with one more than the allowed number, which if like around here, just changed?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 10:12:34 GMT
That must be disappointing for your DD but you're doing the right thing by not letting her go. Something similar happened to DD last week. Her and some college friends were going to go out for a pizza but it turned out there would have been seven of them that wanted to go. The six rule applies here too so she herself made the decision that she didn't want to go. She's 16 though so a little older than you daughter. It wasn't so much that she thought she wouldn't be safe as she's in the same " bubble" as they are at her college classes but she wasn't prepared to break the rules.
It is very frustrating for us parents but it is what it is until we get it all under control unfortunately. Good on you for making the right decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 10:22:18 GMT
I’m not so great. I do have a plan for a call with the mom tomorrow. I know her so well. I’m going to explain our position. I wouldn’t be mean but she’ll provably know I’m feeling pissy. I want to see if the 3 besties might be able to come to our yard for a visit beforehand. If not at least I tried. I’ll even drive the kids back and forth. why would having multiple non related kids in a car for a period of time be safer that an outdoor visit with one more than the allowed number, which if like around here, just changed? It's a way of containing the number it spreads to. If you have six and one of them is positive then 5 might be exposed. If you have seven then 6 are exposed and on it goes. That extra one can then go one to infect two more so the exposure grows for each " extra" person. Being outdoors is safer than indoors but even outdoors can be risky unless they diligently keep to their social distancing which in reality is difficult for kids to do that at all times.
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Post by Basket1lady on Oct 29, 2020 11:05:10 GMT
I think one of the hardest parts of parenting a teen are situations like this. You try to teach your children that laws and rules are important. That sometimes common sense is important and you have a good reason to break a rule, but that you can’t adopt an attitude of “the rules don’t apply to me” or that it’s “only breaking the rules a little”.
I see this snowball effect with groups here, too. A friend had a craft night that was supposed to be five women and it snowballed into 10 women. And then she put photos up on FB. She was at the max for a group, but it was very eye opening listening to her talk about how she just couldn’t refuse requests to join. But I also realized that she could not be part of my “pod” and that she was engaging in risky decisions. It’s good to recognize these groups of friends and to judge our own risk of meeting in person, especially if they aren’t following the rules.
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Post by paigepea on Oct 29, 2020 11:45:37 GMT
I’m not so great. I do have a plan for a call with the mom tomorrow. I know her so well. I’m going to explain our position. I wouldn’t be mean but she’ll provably know I’m feeling pissy. I want to see if the 3 besties might be able to come to our yard for a visit beforehand. If not at least I tried. I’ll even drive the kids back and forth. why would having multiple non related kids in a car for a period of time be safer that an outdoor visit with one more than the allowed number, which if like around here, just changed? Carpooling has been approved since June. Masks on windows open. That is how we carpool. I didn’t say I thought 7 kids plus the host family was unsafe. What I said is that it is illegal. What I think think / feel / believe about the safety of having one more person at a gathering is irrelevant.
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Post by paigepea on Oct 29, 2020 11:56:00 GMT
I’m not so great. I do have a plan for a call with the mom tomorrow. I know her so well. I’m going to explain our position. I wouldn’t be mean but she’ll provably know I’m feeling pissy. I want to see if the 3 besties might be able to come to our yard for a visit beforehand. If not at least I tried. I’ll even drive the kids back and forth. why would having multiple non related kids in a car for a period of time be safer that an outdoor visit with one more than the allowed number, which if like around here, just changed? It also has to do with what our gov’t wants to reduce. The private property gathering limit until last week was 50. Large homes in the health authority over from us were having outdoor tented events of 50 people with buffets. It was for weddings or funerals. They’d have a diff 50 people every night for a few nights until all guests had ‘attended’ so the event could be 3/4 days. This became the major cause of our increased cases. Hence new private property rule. That health authority went a step further and asked for no residents to have any gatherings, not even 6 guests. The latter rule is a recommendation, not a law. It’s different. I totally get that 1 more kid should be no big deal. It’s hard to allow when I know it is against the law. If it was some arbitrary school rule I could break it but a new law passed by our provincial health officer in order to try and protect us during the pandemic. I can’t.
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Post by lisae on Oct 29, 2020 12:11:53 GMT
You are teaching your child to follow the rules and do what is in the best interests for everyone. It's hard on you and on her but you are making the smart, thoughtful decision.
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Post by Really Red on Oct 29, 2020 12:48:01 GMT
Dd 15 has 3 besties. They hung out a lot over covid - outside. During the summer they slept under the stars just to be able to have sleepovers. They were meeting in one yard for Halloween. The yard is the size of a public park. They have a tented area that can seat 25 comfortably. This week our gov’t passed a law saying your family plus 6 guests only on your property. This girl invited the 3 besties plus 4 school friends. So that’s 7. So I tell dd she can’t go, which brings their number down to a legal 6. It’s bad luck and dd is sad (she’ll get over it next week) and I feel pissy over Covid. Please no judgement. I know this is a totally minor and unimportant thing. I just hate covid. I feel like I’d take it all on myself if life could just be normal for my girls.  I validate you. It just simply SUCKS for everyone, but adults know things will pass and can move on. At 15, that's a really tough lesson. What you hope, as a parent, is that it is also a lesson for your DD's besties. I hope you plan a SUPER fun night with your daughter. She will learn that it is important to pay attention to laws and that her mom always has her back.
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Post by melodyesch on Oct 29, 2020 14:07:18 GMT
This is the difference between people who obey the law and those who think the law doesn’t apply to them because it’s “just one more person.” It may not be something you like or even something you agree with, but I commend you for setting a good example.
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Post by gizzy on Oct 29, 2020 14:11:53 GMT
I'm sorry and can understand your needing to vent. Nothing about this time is fair. Thank you for doing the right thing. Just because you can "get away" with it, doesn't mean it should be done.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 14:24:49 GMT
Just because you can "get away" with it, doesn't mean it should be done. Imagine if more people believed that and lived it. What a world this could be.
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Post by paigepea on Oct 29, 2020 14:42:16 GMT
Just because you can "get away" with it, doesn't mean it should be done. Imagine if more people believed that and lived it. What a world this could be. I generally would have said that my friend group is made up of people who live it. But Halloween has proven me wrong. My closest friends are the same as me. My periphery is not the same. Usually when others are not the same as me I say to each their own or everyone has their own comfort level or as long as it’s them not me. In this case it’s illegal so I don’t like what is being taught.
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Post by longtimenopea on Oct 30, 2020 3:01:53 GMT
I don’t know the answer, but I think you’re teaching your children a lesson about doing what you think is right in the greater sense, even when it costs you something. Character. Good job, mama.
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Post by theshyone on Oct 30, 2020 6:10:56 GMT
why would having multiple non related kids in a car for a period of time be safer that an outdoor visit with one more than the allowed number, which if like around here, just changed? It also has to do with what our gov’t wants to reduce. The private property gathering limit until last week was 50. Large homes in the health authority over from us were having outdoor tented events of 50 people with buffets. It was for weddings or funerals. They’d have a diff 50 people every night for a few nights until all guests had ‘attended’ so the event could be 3/4 days. This became the major cause of our increased cases. Hence new private property rule. That health authority went a step further and asked for no residents to have any gatherings, not even 6 guests. The latter rule is a recommendation, not a law. It’s different. I totally get that 1 more kid should be no big deal. It’s hard to allow when I know it is against the law. If it was some arbitrary school rule I could break it but a new law passed by our provincial health officer in order to try and protect us during the pandemic. I can’t. Crud I didn’t realize BC was this bad. Edmonton and Calgary have much more stringent regulations than us her in central Alberta but I’m concerned it’s heading that way too. Numbers increasing, most still saying it’s just a flu, yet we are being very cautious because of health conditions. I’m pissy over covid too. I think you did right.
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Post by paigepea on Oct 30, 2020 13:33:34 GMT
It also has to do with what our gov’t wants to reduce. The private property gathering limit until last week was 50. Large homes in the health authority over from us were having outdoor tented events of 50 people with buffets. It was for weddings or funerals. They’d have a diff 50 people every night for a few nights until all guests had ‘attended’ so the event could be 3/4 days. This became the major cause of our increased cases. Hence new private property rule. That health authority went a step further and asked for no residents to have any gatherings, not even 6 guests. The latter rule is a recommendation, not a law. It’s different. I totally get that 1 more kid should be no big deal. It’s hard to allow when I know it is against the law. If it was some arbitrary school rule I could break it but a new law passed by our provincial health officer in order to try and protect us during the pandemic. I can’t. Crud I didn’t realize BC was this bad. Edmonton and Calgary have much more stringent regulations than us her in central Alberta but I’m concerned it’s heading that way too. Numbers increasing, most still saying it’s just a flu, yet we are being very cautious because of health conditions. I’m pissy over covid too. I think you did right. Do you mean bad in the sense of strict? This rule changed last week in response to gatherings in the Fraser health authority. I am in Vancouver so in the Vancouver coastal Health authority. Apparently more than 70% of cases are in the Fraser health authority but the rule applied across the province, which I understand. Luckily the kids are in school and some of their extra curricular activities can run.
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