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Post by freecharlie on Nov 1, 2020 20:37:03 GMT
Do people in your rural, red area wear masks ? Add this to my attitude towards my fellow neighbors. I’m definitely in the small minority here. Most of my friends from around here are showing me sides of them that is disturbing to me. Sides of them that I never had any clue about. Trump’s damage to our country and our people will last for a very long time. no, most of them do not wear masks and throw fits when asked to wear one
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Post by quinlove on Nov 1, 2020 20:48:20 GMT
And - our Republican governor mandated masks to be worn inside all buildings ! They don’t care. Because dip shit Trump played to his base from the very beginning about masks. I do get in *discussions * with them that they only choose what laws they want to follow ?
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Post by sunshine on Nov 1, 2020 20:49:42 GMT
Yes I will remain friends with them. They are parents of my children's friends and a good relationship is necessary. I am also in the minority around here not being a Trump supporter. To many of them, being a liberal is horrible thing. We live in an oil and gas, rural, conservative area that doesn't understand or even want to understand the issues facing the world outside our bubble. To me they are full of ignorance and stupidity and their morals don't reflect my own. But I will also say that they watch out for my family and my children like we are their family. Every single one of them would drop everything and help if we needed. They would step in to take care of things if we were unable. They are good friends even if they suck in the polls.
My personal opinion is that around here the Republicans are selfish voters. They vote based on very specific ideas...anti-gun control, pro farmer, pro oil and gas, pro tax breaks for those types of businesses. They vote to take care of their own because they take care of there own, others should too. I know there are racists and anti-lgbtq in my area, I'm sure most of them are. I will never defend that and if one of my friends would say something in that vein, I would not let it pass without saying something. With all that said, the only people I have seen post that particular sentiment have been Trump supporters. They know they are being judged and they are whining about it. There us another one that is longer that is even more "woe is me." I believe they are trying to deflect and defend because they know most of the world think they are assholes This is really shitty. I wonder if they'd feel your friendship is necessary knowing how you feel about them? I guess they're good for something at least.
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Post by maryland on Nov 1, 2020 20:51:10 GMT
As long as we don't talk politics, my friends will still be my friends. I don't have much opportunity to meet new friends anymore, which makes me sad! My kids are older, 17-23, so no more high school activities or volunteering at school to make new friends. So the ones I have now are wonderful to me, and are always willing to help out, as I help them. I don't want to lose the friends I have over politics.
Even my Republican friends wear masks and social distance and don't have gatherings. So that helps! I don't know if I could deal with those that think it's a democrat hoax. I draw the line there!
My facebook friends I have unfollowed since the last election. I am a hard core conservative magnet! I pretty much only follow my alma mater and cnn, nbc news, etc. on facebook.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 1, 2020 20:55:58 GMT
Yes I will remain friends with them. They are parents of my children's friends and a good relationship is necessary. I am also in the minority around here not being a Trump supporter. To many of them, being a liberal is horrible thing. We live in an oil and gas, rural, conservative area that doesn't understand or even want to understand the issues facing the world outside our bubble. To me they are full of ignorance and stupidity and their morals don't reflect my own. But I will also say that they watch out for my family and my children like we are their family. Every single one of them would drop everything and help if we needed. They would step in to take care of things if we were unable. They are good friends even if they suck in the polls.
My personal opinion is that around here the Republicans are selfish voters. They vote based on very specific ideas...anti-gun control, pro farmer, pro oil and gas, pro tax breaks for those types of businesses. They vote to take care of their own because they take care of there own, others should too. I know there are racists and anti-lgbtq in my area, I'm sure most of them are. I will never defend that and if one of my friends would say something in that vein, I would not let it pass without saying something. With all that said, the only people I have seen post that particular sentiment have been Trump supporters. They know they are being judged and they are whining about it. There us another one that is longer that is even more "woe is me." I believe they are trying to deflect and defend because they know most of the world think they are assholes This is really shitty. I wonder if they'd feel your friendship is necessary knowing how you feel about them? I guess they're good for something at least. considering they say things like "you're a liberal but we still love you, I think they feel the same way about me." We don't have to have the same morals. I take care of their kids when needed. I step in if someone needs something. We work together when the community needs it. We have drinks and coffee and whatever...pre-pandemic. These are the type of people we all are and being or not being a Trump supporter doesn't change that. And yes, I do believe that some of what they believe and stand for is absolutely ignorance and having not been exposed to people and ideas outside our little bubble of an area.
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Post by monklady123 on Nov 1, 2020 21:03:46 GMT
I chose "other" because my answer is that I don't have any rabid trump supporters as friends. 
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Post by prapea on Nov 1, 2020 21:31:16 GMT
No. I am not ok with anyone who votes for Trump. As of this second, I consider him a domestic terrorist, racist and amofoasshole...so anyone who votes for him, in my mind is saying, “I agree with him”. I don’t give a shit if people don’t want to vote for a democrat, I don’t give a shit that they are “technically” not voting for trump but for their party and I don’t care if they say they do not support trump but will vote for him.
The second someone votes for trump right now, it negates everything for me and tells me that that person is a wanna be terrorist and a racist
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 1, 2020 21:36:30 GMT
I do get in *discussions * with them that they only choose what laws they want to follow ? Yes, because that is exactly what Trump does. What laws does he follow? he does his rallies, he does anything and everything he wants, and has no consequences.
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Post by sassyangel on Nov 1, 2020 21:37:52 GMT
Yes I will remain friends with them. They are parents of my children's friends and a good relationship is necessary. I am also in the minority around here not being a Trump supporter. To many of them, being a liberal is horrible thing. We live in an oil and gas, rural, conservative area that doesn't understand or even want to understand the issues facing the world outside our bubble. To me they are full of ignorance and stupidity and their morals don't reflect my own. But I will also say that they watch out for my family and my children like we are their family. Every single one of them would drop everything and help if we needed. They would step in to take care of things if we were unable. They are good friends even if they suck in the polls.
My personal opinion is that around here the Republicans are selfish voters. They vote based on very specific ideas...anti-gun control, pro farmer, pro oil and gas, pro tax breaks for those types of businesses. They vote to take care of their own because they take care of there own, others should too. I know there are racists and anti-lgbtq in my area, I'm sure most of them are. I will never defend that and if one of my friends would say something in that vein, I would not let it pass without saying something. With all that said, the only people I have seen post that particular sentiment have been Trump supporters. They know they are being judged and they are whining about it. There us another one that is longer that is even more "woe is me." I believe they are trying to deflect and defend because they know most of the world think they are assholes This is really shitty. I wonder if they'd feel your friendship is necessary knowing how you feel about them? I guess they're good for something at least. I wouldn’t call that relationship a friendship - more like being professional.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 1, 2020 22:20:02 GMT
The second someone votes for trump right now, it negates everything for me and tells me that that person is a wanna be terrorist and a racist Yes, but that's not true. Everyone that is a republican is not those things. Just like us democrats aren't all baby killers or other tags they give us.
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Post by swtpeasmom on Nov 1, 2020 22:24:48 GMT
I have family that support Trump. I actually had to unfriend some fanatical fans of his. Including my Father (we weren't close anyway).
Friends - we are very involved in travel sports and I know many parents are Trump fans. Unfortunately, I can't cut off relations with them. Also with parents of my DD's friends. Makes things tough.
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Post by NanaKate on Nov 1, 2020 22:26:45 GMT
No. I am not ok with anyone who votes for Trump. As of this second, I consider him a domestic terrorist, racist and amofoasshole...so anyone who votes for him, in my mind is saying, “I agree with him”. I don’t give a shit if people don’t want to vote for a democrat, I don’t give a shit that they are “technically” not voting for trump but for their party and I don’t care if they say they do not support trump but will vote for him. The second someone votes for trump right now, it negates everything for me and tells me that that person is a wanna be terrorist and a racist Wow...interesting point of view.
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 1, 2020 22:41:49 GMT
I thought I had friends that would denounce Trump and some became rabid fans. They are out of my life. I keep things polite if I have to interact with them IRL. Where I struggle is anyone who calls themselves Christian and excuses Trump's actions and his "past" history but Biden is vilified for everything. This quote sums up how I feel. I doubt most of the people I won't interact with even notice. 
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 2, 2020 0:22:57 GMT
Yes, but that's not true. Everyone that is a republican is not those things. Just like us democrats aren't all baby killers or other tags they give us. Please indicate who the democrat baby killer is. I'm pretty sure she is alluding to the pro-lifer views of pro-choicers
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Post by pinklady on Nov 2, 2020 0:26:20 GMT
The second someone votes for trump right now, it negates everything for me and tells me that that person is a wanna be terrorist and a racist Yes, but that's not true. Everyone that is a republican is not those things. Yes they are. FULL STOP.
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Post by pinklady on Nov 2, 2020 0:27:35 GMT
Please indicate who the democrat baby killer is. I'm pretty sure she is alluding to the pro-lifer views of pro-choicers You mean pro birth not pro life. The right has proven they are NOT pro life when over 200,000 people have died and it’s no big deal.
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Post by purplebee on Nov 2, 2020 0:34:09 GMT
I live in a very red, rural area. This is the first time in my life, I’m almost 69, that politics has made a difference in how I feel about the people I associate with. I have unfollowed and snoozed the more outspoken trump humpers on my FB feed, and I have not hesitated to express my disgust for trump and his cronies and my support for Biden on FB and to anyone who initiates a political conversation. I know this has caused some acquaintances to think less of me, but I don’t care and have made it plain that I will not change my views b/c at this point it is a moral rather than political stance. I have heard secondhand feedback asking what is wrong with me and how can I support socialists and people who want to destroy America and take all our rights away coming from people I liked and respected. I do have a few friends who are Democrats, and thankfully my NY family also feel the way I do. I get my moral support from them and from reading this board and Heather Cox Richardson. You all have helped me weather the storm of trump support that I see and hear on an almost daily basis, and I thank you! I am saddened, sickened and demoralized by what out country has become, and the political tone the predominates my town, county and state has made me question the love I have always felt for my home of 35+ years. I honestly do not know what I will do if trump wins. And while I will be overjoyed with a Biden victory, I am dreading the barrage of anti-Democratic/Liberal rhetoric that I will encounter over the next 4 years. It is a very depressing prospect, and I am at a loss of how to deal with it. I could have written this word for word almost. Do people in your rural, red area wear masks ? Add this to my attitude towards my fellow neighbors. I’m definitely in the small minority here. Most of my friends from around here are showing me sides of them that is disturbing to me. Sides of them that I never had any clue about. Trump’s damage to our country and our people will last for a very long time. Many do wear them, but many stores require it. I usually see a few maskless people at my grocery store or in Walmart. I was there early Saturday and noticed two younger Moms chatting in the aisle , each with young kids, no masks. I am waiting for someone to criticize or mock me for wearing one - I will probably be on FB in a viral video! Lots of folks scoff at the virus, restaurants are busy, but our numbers are spiking. My frustration level is at an all time high. I feel your pain!
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 2, 2020 0:37:21 GMT
I'm pretty sure she is alluding to the pro-lifer views of pro-choicers You mean pro birth not pro life. The right has proven they are NOT pro life when over 200,000 people have died and it’s no big deal. whatever...feel better now or do you just need to argue constantly?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 2, 2020 0:49:13 GMT
Please indicate who the democrat baby killer is. Yes, This. just like democrats believe all the rhetoric about republicans.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 2, 2020 0:50:04 GMT
Yes, but that's not true. Everyone that is a republican is not those things. Yes they are. FULL STOP. Nope, not a full stop. They fully are NOT. See, if you believe that, you are part of the problem.
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Post by pinklady on Nov 2, 2020 1:10:29 GMT
Yes, but that's not true. Everyone that is a republican is not those things. Yes they are. FULL STOP. Nope, not a full stop. They fully are NOT. See, if you believe that, you are part of the problem. I didn’t say all conservative I said all republicans. If you don’t see the difference YOU are part of the problem. The Republican Party has been taken over and is gone. Honestly, maybe now we have a chance at a strong third party.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 2, 2020 1:24:32 GMT
Yes, This. just like democrats believe all the rhetoric about republicans. I'm confused. Was that an answer? I don't believe general rhetoric about republicans, but I have seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears many who are in fact domestic terrorists and racists. I haven't seen any and I live in trump loving country. I see the stupid ass flags but as far as I know no armed gangs running arouns
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 2, 2020 2:43:43 GMT
Nope, not a full stop. They fully are NOT. See, if you believe that, you are part of the problem. I didn’t say all conservative I said all republicans. If you don’t see the difference YOU are part of the problem. The Republican Party has been taken over and is gone. Honestly, maybe now we have a chance at a strong third party. Well, you’re wrong. All republicans are not racist and whatever else you said. I’m on my phone and can’t scroll up. I do see the difference. I’m telling you that what you are saying-lumping all Republicans, is wrong. And I’m a Democrat.
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Post by fiddlesticks on Nov 2, 2020 3:36:54 GMT
I did "other" because I have two exceptions. For the most part, I am done with rabid Trump supporters..including family. My other is my daughter's dance studio owner and her husband, although I wouldn't say he is a friend. She is British and has a green card but their family is pro-Trump. But, she has said several things to me about how she disagrees with this or that, she is actually pro-choice, so I wouldn't say she is a he-can-do-no-wrong supporter.
But over the years, she and I have become close and she is like a second mother to my DD. So, because of those two things, I am not going to cut ties.
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