amom23
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Post by amom23 on Nov 8, 2020 14:36:24 GMT
It has been the opinion of many that the virus was a Democrat plot to make sure Donald Trump does not get back in. Apparently the whole world was in on it. They said the virus would magically disappear once the election was over. 😂 Unfortunately there are quite a few people who believe this nonsense as shown by the super spreader celebrations last night. It's unfortunate that our President elect did not use this opportunity to tell people to celebrate in their own homes. Yep let's blame Joe Biden. If Trump had done his job we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.
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amom23
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Post by amom23 on Nov 8, 2020 15:07:21 GMT
Yep let's blame Joe Biden. If Trump had done his job we wouldn't be in the mess we are in. So you are basically saying, too late to do anything? Why bother at this point? because it's Trump's fault? That's not good enough. Our President elect can and should begin to plan a way to combat this virus. It would have helped to keep all those people off the streets. What I was saying is I don't feel it was Joe Biden's sole responsibility to tell people to go home last night.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 8, 2020 15:19:18 GMT
Joe Biden is doing some things. He’s being briefed every day, which is more than our current president who goes out and plays golf and tries to ignore Covid. Joe Biden is putting together a task force and making an announcement tomorrow. Uncertain who will be on the task force, but I guarantee it will not be a radiologist or his children with zero experience. www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/11/07/joe-biden-forming-covid-19-coronavirus-task-force-here-are-some-reported-members/Joe Biden is leading by example. He wears masks and encourages others to do so. He has been very responsible with his campaign from holding smaller events, events outdoors to drive in events and not going door to door. Could he have asked people to stay home? Yes, but after 4 years, many people have hope for the first time and want to celebrate. The majority are wearing masks and outdoors. Yes, there’s still a risk because they’re in large gatherings and not social distancing. However, after all of the Trump rallies and Black Lives Matter protests, it would be challenging and perhaps unfair to ask people to stay home. eta - Maybe if the celebrations continue today, Biden should ask people to stay home? The celebrations were spontaneous, I don’t know if anyone expected them. Fox News criticized CNN for not calling out the celebrations. Last night, I watched a little of CNN’s coverage and they kept pointing out people who weren’t wearing masks who should be and pointing out that people were not social distancing. I’m just relieved that so far, there hasn’t been any violence on either side.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 8, 2020 21:41:15 GMT
Why did the OP beachgurl delete all of her posts here?
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Post by dewryce on Nov 8, 2020 22:20:06 GMT
I love the drive in rallies, that’s following known guidance when people wear masks, stay with their bubble and social distance. So most of it didn’t bother me last night except that section a few people deep right at the front. I do think they should have broken that up. I agree with aj2hall about his response otherwise.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 8, 2020 23:06:14 GMT
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Post by gar on Nov 8, 2020 23:11:56 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 8, 2020 23:30:54 GMT
I’m so sorry. I truly hope she recovers. Thank you for your kind thoughts. She died on Thursday. I did not know this. I'm so very sorry.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 9, 2020 2:01:57 GMT
Yep let's blame Joe Biden. If Trump had done his job we wouldn't be in the mess we are in. So you are basically saying, too late to do anything? Why bother at this point? because it's Trump's fault? That's not good enough. Our President elect can and should begin to plan a way to combat this virus. It would have helped to keep all those people off the streets. All the while, the current potus played golf. Both yesterday and today. And not one peep out of this administration in the last 2 weeks telling people to stay home.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 9, 2020 2:06:28 GMT
At least we follow science and medicine, unlike your cheeto who denies it all., And I don’t see any pea here saying that the celebrations were okay-Covid wise. And..just shut up—you didn’t have issue with it when trump was holding super spreaders rallies last week, the week before, the weeks before that. Nor did you have issue with trump contradicting medical experts or science, or when he claims he knows more than anyone rise, or when he disbanded a good portion of the CDC work and pandemic responders. So just shut up.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 9, 2020 2:47:31 GMT
All the while, the current potus played golf. Both yesterday and today. And not one peep out of this administration in the last 2 weeks telling people to stay home. This bears repeating. Joe Biden is the president elect. The current president continues to ignore the virus. The current one has the ability to effect change, but he chooses not to. If he wore a mask and told his supporters to, that alone could make a big impact.
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Post by femalebusiness on Nov 9, 2020 2:59:50 GMT
At least we follow science and medicine, unlike your cheeto who denies it all., And I don’t see any pea here saying that the celebrations were okay-Covid wise. And..just shut up—you didn’t have issue with it when trump was holding super spreaders rallies last week, the week before, the weeks before that. Nor did you have issue with trump contradicting medical experts or science, or when he claims he knows more than anyone rise, or when he disbanded a good portion of the CDC work and pandemic responders. So just shut up. Thank you.
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 9, 2020 3:19:48 GMT
Why did the OP beachgurl delete all of her posts here? Perhaps she was Being serious and not sarcastic in her initial post?
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 9, 2020 6:17:19 GMT
At least we follow science and medicine, unlike your cheeto who denies it all., And I don’t see any pea here saying that the celebrations were okay-Covid wise. And..just shut up—you didn’t have issue with it when trump was holding super spreaders rallies last week, the week before, the weeks before that. Nor did you have issue with trump contradicting medical experts or science, or when he claims he knows more than anyone rise, or when he disbanded a good portion of the CDC work and pandemic responders. So just shut up. The people in the video are NOT following the science. I have objected to the way Trump handles things, but this isn't about me or Trump. It's about the Biden supporters railing against any Trump supporters who gather like this and then turn around and do it themselves all the times they protest and more again when they celebrate. The hypocrisy is deafening. That's about the third time you've stomped your feet and told me to shut up. I will not EVER shut up if I have something to say, so don't bother saying it to me again.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 9, 2020 6:24:13 GMT
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Post by gar on Nov 9, 2020 7:45:46 GMT
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Nov 9, 2020 8:00:24 GMT
At least we follow science and medicine, unlike your cheeto who denies it all., And I don’t see any pea here saying that the celebrations were okay-Covid wise. And..just shut up—you didn’t have issue with it when trump was holding super spreaders rallies last week, the week before, the weeks before that. Nor did you have issue with trump contradicting medical experts or science, or when he claims he knows more than anyone rise, or when he disbanded a good portion of the CDC work and pandemic responders. So just shut up. The people in the video are NOT following the science. I have objected to the way Trump handles things, but this isn't about me or Trump. It's about the Biden supporters railing against any Trump supporters who gather like this and then turn around and do it themselves all the times they protest and more again when they celebrate. The hypocrisy is deafening. That's about the third time you've stomped your feet and told me to shut up. I will not EVER shut up if I have something to say, so don't bother saying it to me again. Oh, trust me. We are all painfully aware of the fact that you will NOT EVER shut up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 8:50:03 GMT
I’m so sorry. I truly hope she recovers. Thank you for your kind thoughts. She died on Thursday. Oh no. So sorry for your loss.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 9, 2020 9:07:38 GMT
The people in the video are NOT following the science. I have objected to the way Trump handles things, but this isn't about me or Trump. It's about the Biden supporters railing against any Trump supporters who gather like this and then turn around and do it themselves all the times they protest and more again when they celebrate. The hypocrisy is deafening. This is true. Trump was wrong not to encourage masks and was wrong to hold super spreader rallies but no denying that these celebrations were wrong as well. People will never learn. You would think that the numbers from the Trump events would discourage this but they did not. Biden's team should have anticipated this reaction and celebrations and put out the word, to celebrate at home. I guess we wait a few weeks and see what the toll is. I think that we are going to find that even with Biden as president, he can mandate all he wants, but in the end people do what they want. So far, Biden is leading by example, he wears his mask as does those around him. Sure they’re following science—masks—lots of them! And I honestly don’t think anything could have stopped people dancing in the streets given the absolutely fantastic news.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 9:07:48 GMT
I spoke with my aunt last night via FaceTime. We rarely talk politics because we have different views and have been able to maintain peace throughout the last 4 years. She thought she hung up the phone but it was not disconnected. She was at her brother's house for a birthday party with family. One of my cousins' spouse is a conservative talking head. She was going on to the family about how on Monday they were going to go back to talking about Covid and how the kids were going to be kept out of school. She was saying how Liberals think "they" are all stupid and how it's a big game. I was just completely dumbstruck. I still find it so hard to believe that there are people that believe this shit!!!!! I can no longer count on TWO hands the number of people that I personally know that have had the virus. I know two people that have died from it (one of which was a 56 year old man). My BFF is a NP in a surgical rehab facility. They have had 20 people to die during the first round of the virus. We had a long conversation about how there is no logic in how the virus kills some and not others. She had a 92 year old patient survive while the youngest patient to die was in their 30's. I have friends that are nurses and doctors and they are so angry at the mere notion that hospitals are benefiting off COVID. I mean what the actual F$&* ? The virus is all over the world. So to imply that it is some "game" being played by the democrats...I can't even make sense of that dumbfuckery! So you know what, according to my cousin's wife, YES, I do think "they" are stupid if they cannot see the DAMN facts and they continue to risk their family.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 9, 2020 9:15:09 GMT
At least we follow science and medicine, unlike your cheeto who denies it all., And I don’t see any pea here saying that the celebrations were okay-Covid wise. And..just shut up—you didn’t have issue with it when trump was holding super spreaders rallies last week, the week before, the weeks before that. Nor did you have issue with trump contradicting medical experts or science, or when he claims he knows more than anyone rise, or when he disbanded a good portion of the CDC work and pandemic responders. So just shut up. The people in the video are NOT following the science. I have objected to the way Trump handles things, but this isn't about me or Trump. It's about the Biden supporters railing against any Trump supporters who gather like this and then turn around and do it themselves all the times they protest and more again when they celebrate. The hypocrisy is deafening. That's about the third time you've stomped your feet and told me to shut up. I will not EVER shut up if I have something to say, so don't bother saying it to me again. Ahh, the Gia classic move the goal posts. Many, many left leaning peas have condemned gatherings, and you know it despite your claim here otherwise. You just cannot help yourself and continue to lie about what left peas have posted. There are even threads dedicated to it. Typical republican hypocrisy— It’s fine and dandy when they do it, you’ll excuse it away or not say anything if your kind is doing it.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 9, 2020 9:23:59 GMT
The people in the video are NOT following the science. I have objected to the way Trump handles things, but this isn't about me or Trump. It's about the Biden supporters railing against any Trump supporters who gather like this and then turn around and do it themselves all the times they protest and more again when they celebrate. The hypocrisy is deafening. That's about the third time you've stomped your feet and told me to shut up. I will not EVER shut up if I have something to say, so don't bother saying it to me again. Ahh, the Gia classic move the goal posts. Many, many left leaning peas have condemned gatherings, and you know it despite your claim here otherwise. You just cannot help yourself and continue to lie about what left peas have posted. There are even threads dedicated to it. WTH are you talking about? I didn't claim otherwise. In fact that was the exact claim I made see the bolded in MY post. Typical republican hypocrisy— It’s fine and dandy when they do it, you’ll excuse it away or not say anything if your kind is doing it.Sorry, no. I have never excused it.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 10, 2020 1:24:09 GMT
Are you seriously questioning the results of the election? Every media organization, including Fox News has called it. All of the states with the exception of Alaska, Georgia and maybe North Carolina have 98-100% of their votes counted. The outcome of those 3 states is irrelevant, it will not change the outcome. Yes, there may be recounts but those generally only change the numbers by a few hundred votes. So far, the majority of Trumps lawsuits have been tossed out or amounted to nothing. And yes, the votes have not been officially certified but the numbers are not going to change. The results are not going to be overturned. Trump and some of his crazy supporters are the only ones refusing to acknowledge that fact. World leaders have called Biden to congratulate him. Even former President Bush, Mitt Romney and a few other conservatives have recognized the results. www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-2020-election-results/2020/11/07/932576135/fact-check-trumps-claim-that-biden-s-wins-aren-t-certified-won-t-change-the-outc
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 10, 2020 17:12:28 GMT
Are you seriously questioning the results of the election? Every media organization, including Fox News has called it. All of the states with the exception of Alaska, Georgia and maybe North Carolina have 98-100% of their votes counted. The outcome of those 3 states is irrelevant, it will not change the outcome. Yes, there may be recounts but those generally only change the numbers by a few hundred votes. So far, the majority of Trumps lawsuits have been tossed out or amounted to nothing. And yes, the votes have not been officially certified but the numbers are not going to change. The results are not going to be overturned. Trump and some of his crazy supporters are the only ones refusing to acknowledge that fact. World leaders have called Biden to congratulate him. Even former President Bush, Mitt Romney and a few other conservatives have recognized the results. www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-2020-election-results/2020/11/07/932576135/fact-check-trumps-claim-that-biden-s-wins-aren-t-certified-won-t-change-the-outcI'm saying news outlets called the PROJECTED winner, but the results have not been certified in a number of deciding states and some states are still counting votes. Some states are still RECEIVING votes. That's a fact. There are pending lawsuits. The 2000 election took 37 days while Al Gore pursued legal issues. From the History Channel: "After a wild election night on November 7, 2000, during which TV networks first called the key state of Florida for Gore, then for Bush, followed by a concession by Gore that was soon rescinded, the results for who would be the nation’s 43rd president were simply too close to call." Trump and some of his crazy supporters are the only ones refusing to acknowledge that fact. I think you missed the link from the Wall Street Journal in my post. Nov 8 Wall Street Journal - Vote Counting Goes On in Many States, With Some Too Close to Call Is the Wall Street Journal a "crazy Trump supporter" or maybe are they just telling the truth? Even former President Bush, Mitt Romney and a few other conservatives have recognized the results. Bush: "President Trump has the right to request recounts and pursue legal challenges, and any unresolved issues will be properly adjudicated. The American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair, its integrity will be upheld, and its outcome is clear." The American people NEED to see that play out. Even those who voted against Trump. It's very important NOW for some and very important for ALL going forward that "the American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair (and knowing) its integrity will be upheld". Is Joe the likely winner? Yes, but calling it a done deal? Not yet.
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Post by Mel on Nov 10, 2020 17:31:03 GMT
Someone forgot to tell North Dakota apparently. It's a total shit show up here with a governor who has his head up Trump's ass and won't show any leadership. Iowa too!! Our numbers are higher than they have ever been, and rising by 4-5000 daily! Our governor is a complete idiot, and if Daddy doesn't tell her to do it, she won't. She is so far up his ass her toenails are brown!
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amom23
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Post by amom23 on Nov 10, 2020 19:20:15 GMT
Someone forgot to tell North Dakota apparently. It's a total shit show up here with a governor who has his head up Trump's ass and won't show any leadership. Iowa too!! Our numbers are higher than they have ever been, and rising by 4-5000 daily! Our governor is a complete idiot, and if Daddy doesn't tell her to do it, she won't. She is so far up his ass her toenails are brown! It's really frustrating isn't it? ND just lost another 30 people from yesterday. We have 674 total deaths. That's a lot for our small populated state. No state mask mandate of course. It's all about being ND smart and finding your WHY. Clearly none of that is working.
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Post by huskergal on Nov 10, 2020 19:23:31 GMT
We have a governor who is chiding doctor's for their message on Covid in our state because they are liberals and he says it is all political. I just can't. The cases in our school just keep going up. We have students quarantined almost daily. We have had two staff members who have Covid. I am over the ineptness of our governor and how our state is handling Covid.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 10, 2020 23:31:25 GMT
I'm saying news outlets called the PROJECTED winner, but the results have not been certified in a number of deciding states and some states are still counting votes. Some states are still RECEIVING votes. That's a fact. There are pending lawsuits. The 2000 election took 37 days while Al Gore pursued legal issues. From the History Channel: "After a wild election night on November 7, 2000, during which TV networks first called the key state of Florida for Gore, then for Bush, followed by a concession by Gore that was soon rescinded, the results for who would be the nation’s 43rd president were simply too close to call." I think you missed the link from the Wall Street Journal in my post. Nov 8 Wall Street Journal - Vote Counting Goes On in Many States, With Some Too Close to Call Is the Wall Street Journal a "crazy Trump supporter" or maybe are they just telling the truth? Bush: "President Trump has the right to request recounts and pursue legal challenges, and any unresolved issues will be properly adjudicated. The American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair, its integrity will be upheld, and its outcome is clear."The American people NEED to see that play out. Even those who voted against Trump. It's very important NOW for some and very important for ALL going forward that "the American people can have confidence that this election was fundamentally fair (and knowing) its integrity will be upheld". Is Joe the likely winner? Yes, but calling it a done deal? Not yet. The 2000 election was an election that hinged on the outcome in 1 state. Biden is ahead in multiple states that put him over 270. So far, at least 10 of Trump’s lawsuits have been thrown out of court. AP and other news organizations only call the results in a state when the losing candidate has no mathematical path to victory. Trump has no mathematical path to victory in multiple states. The fact that votes are still being counted is irrelevant. The number of outstanding votes is so small, Trump can not win in those states. I didn’t read the WSJ article because it’s behind a paid firewall. Where exactly did they say Biden is not the president elect? With just a quick google search, I found links to articles in the WSJ that refer to Biden’s win. www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-election-win-was-a-big-bet-for-these-wall-street-executives-11605004208In case you missed it, www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-wins-the-2020-presidential-election-what-happens-next-11604772736I did read the article you linked through a google search. The article states Joe Biden won with 270 electoral votes. Maybe you didn’t read it?
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 15, 2020 13:12:39 GMT
Just curious if you still think Biden is not the president elect? Georgia has now been called for him, giving him 306 electoral votes. The same number that Trump won in 2016 when he claimed he won by a landslide. Hillary Clinton conceded right away and Trump was President elect. No one denied it back then, except for some liberals who didn’t want to accept it. But the media and politicians did not refute the fact. Yes, there were recounts but the margins were close. In Pennsylvania and Michigan, Biden is ahead by significantly more votes than Trump was in 2016. Trump’s own cybersecurity agency declared the election the most secure ever. Trump stupidly tried to take credit for this while he claims widespread election fraud. www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-2020-election-results/2020/11/14/934220380/as-trump-pushes-election-falsehoods-his-cybersecurity-agency-pushes-backLogically, trump’s claims of fraud don't even make sense. The Democrats cheated but weren’t smart enough to also win House and Senate races? Fraud has been happening in Philadelphia for years, but Trump won Pennsylvania in 2016? The vote should be stopped in certain states but allowed to count in others? Mail in ballots should not be accepted in Pennsylvania after Election Day but allowed in North Carolina. There’s fraud in states with Republican governors and Secretaries of State as well as the Democrat run ones? There’s fraud with in person voting now, too? All ballots should be thrown out? His legal challenges are going nowhere. In Arizona, his legal team withdrew their own complaint. Law firms are quitting. www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-2020-election-results/2020/11/13/934721699/legal-avenues-closing-as-trump-lawsuits-meet-with-defeat-or-dead-ends
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