lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 9:57:33 GMT
Curious, isn't it? With the states called (meaning including AZ) it is 238. No one else that I’m watching has Arizona (11) or Maine (1) called yet and I can’t figure out the other 3 votes that are missing. It was nice watching Nevada and Wisconsin go to mostly blue! Maine? Biden got 3 there. And AZ was called. |
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Post by hopemax on Nov 4, 2020 10:00:11 GMT
So Green Bay’s vote is delayed because the machine ran out of ink and someone has to go to City Hall to get more.
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 10:01:23 GMT
So Green Bay’s vote is delayed because the machine ran out of ink and someone has to go to City Hall to get more.  |
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Post by dewryce on Nov 4, 2020 10:01:26 GMT
No one else that I’m watching has Arizona (11) or Maine (1) called yet and I can’t figure out the other 3 votes that are missing. It was nice watching Nevada and Wisconsin go to mostly blue! Maine? Biden got 3 there. And AZ was called. Yes, but other sites I’m looking at haven’t added it to their count, they still have him around 223 with Arizona and Maine in grey. |
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Post by Dani-Mani on Nov 4, 2020 10:03:50 GMT
Just waking up from a dead sleep. Afraid to turn the TV on.
I’m guessing Trumk declared victory (🙄) but does Biden actually have a chance or are we delaying the inevitable?
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 10:07:38 GMT
Just waking up from a dead sleep. Afraid to turn the TV on. I’m guessing Trumk declared victory (🙄) but does Biden actually have a chance or are we delaying the inevitable? YES, Biden has a good chance. We have three ways to 270. Keep the faith. |
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Post by dewryce on Nov 4, 2020 10:08:17 GMT
Just waking up from a dead sleep. Afraid to turn the TV on. I’m guessing Trumk declared victory (🙄) but does Biden actually have a chance or are we delaying the inevitable? He has a lot of chances. Like 93 to Trump’s 31 according to Politico. But, I remember 2016, and Biden’s chances looked a LOT better earlier today. It’s been depressing watching them shrink. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 10:15:48 GMT
Thats truly mind numbing and depressing in equal measure  Right? At least in 2016 there was less (but still a lot) proof of who he was and how he’d do as President. But it’s been 3.75 years of daily evidence that he is criminally ill-equipped to handle this job, how he is dividing our nation, and tearing apart our democracy (I know, I know CR). And don’t get me started on the corruption... I will never ever understand that either. I'm willing to give the ones that voted for him in 2016 some benefit of the doubt that they were taken in thinking it was a benefit not to have a career politician but this time? - no, they know exactly who he is and what and how he does things. They've shown exactly who they are, believe them! It's pretty frightening that there are so many of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 10:32:22 GMT
I know we shouldn't get our hope up but the BBC has just tweeted the news that it's predicted that Biden has won in Hawaii unexpected by the sound of it.
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 10:34:22 GMT
I know we shouldn't get our hope up but the BBC has just tweeted the news that it's predicted that Biden has won in Hawaii unexpected by the sound of it. HI is a blue state so no surprise there. It's already baked in to our starting electoral vote count for Biden. |
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Post by hopemax on Nov 4, 2020 10:34:47 GMT
Apparently, Green Bay got their ink, finished counting and the results are on their way.
I can’t handle MAGA Twitter not understanding that precincts are not votes. When it says 94% of precincts are in but only 84% of the vote, when a single precinct, LIKE THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE! Comes in...The precinct total will only go from 94 to 95%, while the vote total changes by 100,000+ votes.
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Post by dewryce on Nov 4, 2020 10:43:16 GMT
Apparently, Green Bay got their ink, finished counting and the results are on their way. I can’t handle MAGA Twitter not understanding that precincts are not votes. When it says 94% of precincts are in but only 84% of the vote, when a single precinct, LIKE THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE! Comes in...The precinct total will only go from 94 to 95%, while the vote total changes by 100,000+ votes. You’re on twitter tonight? Brave woman, I have avoided it like the plague! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 10:43:28 GMT
I know we shouldn't get our hope up but the BBC has just tweeted the news that it's predicted that Biden has won in Hawaii unexpected by the sound of it. HI is a blue state so no surprise there. It's already baked in to our starting electoral vote count for Biden. Oh! they got it wrong then as they said it's only ever voted twice for a Democrat and it normally goes republic - damn I was getting a little excited  |
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Post by dewryce on Nov 4, 2020 10:44:26 GMT
HI is a blue state so no surprise there. It's already baked in to our starting electoral vote count for Biden. Oh! they got it wrong then as they said it's only ever voted twice for a Democrat and it normally goes republic - damn I was getting a little excited Isn’t that Arizona? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 10:49:19 GMT
Oh! they got it wrong then as they said it's only ever voted twice for a Democrat and it normally goes republic - damn I was getting a little excited Isn’t that Arizona? No, they posted Hawaii on their live feed Joe Biden is projected to win the state of Hawaii. Since becoming a state in 1959, it has only voted twice for Republican presidential candidates..  |
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 10:50:23 GMT
HI is a blue state so no surprise there. It's already baked in to our starting electoral vote count for Biden. Oh! they got it wrong then as they said it's only ever voted twice for a Democrat and it normally goes republic - damn I was getting a little excited  It's the opposite. It's voted only twice for a Republican. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 10:52:10 GMT
Oh! they got it wrong then as they said it's only ever voted twice for a Democrat and it normally goes republic - damn I was getting a little excited It's the opposite. It's voted only twice for a Republican. God, I wish someone as reputable as the BBC would check their facts. ETA - OK I haven't had much sleep and re read it - all is forgiven BBC |
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Post by hopemax on Nov 4, 2020 10:54:43 GMT
Apparently, Green Bay got their ink, finished counting and the results are on their way. I can’t handle MAGA Twitter not understanding that precincts are not votes. When it says 94% of precincts are in but only 84% of the vote, when a single precinct, LIKE THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE! Comes in...The precinct total will only go from 94 to 95%, while the vote total changes by 100,000+ votes. You’re on twitter tonight? Brave woman, I have avoided it like the plague! Reading only. I don’t use it for tweeting. |
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Post by littlemama on Nov 4, 2020 10:55:41 GMT
Dear God, why is it even this close??Anyone else feel like puking this morning?
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 10:59:03 GMT
C'mon, WISCONSIN! We need you!
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Post by dewryce on Nov 4, 2020 11:05:43 GMT
You’re on twitter tonight? Brave woman, I have avoided it like the plague! Reading only. I don’t use it for tweeting. Me either, I joined ages ago and I think the only people I followed were the San Antonio Spurs and another pea from San Antonio. And I haven’t tweeted once. But I knew my blood pressure would rise if I checked in there tonight |
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 11:11:18 GMT
"Nevada’s election division announced that no more results will be given until 11 a.m. Eastern on Thursday. Remaining votes include mail ballots received on Election Day."
It's very close in NV, but the absentee ballots they still have to count are in Clark County (Las Vegas) which is a blue lean.
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Post by Merge on Nov 4, 2020 11:29:45 GMT
Ugghhhhhh ... this is not what I wanted to wake up to this morning.
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 11:44:12 GMT
OMG. Trump is losing his edge in MI. 83% reported, 1.3% variance.
C'mon, MICHIGAN! NV, MI, WI to 270!
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 4, 2020 11:44:14 GMT
It's currently 10:30pm Wednesday night. I am watching 'Planet America', which is on every Wednesday night here. These are a few points that have been made so far:
Trump needs to win GA, NC, PA and wither MI or WI
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From Celinda Lake, a Democratic strategist:
Confidence in the upper mid west because they count Election Day ballots before the early returns. Trump encouraged voters to vote on Election Day, Biden encouraged them to vote early. In PA, a million ballots won't be counted until tomorrow.
Expectations for next 24hrs - will probably be a couple of days before there is a result - they have to count a record number of early votes, plus Republicans are trying to stop that count.
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WI - A short time ago there was 83% counted with a 3.6% margin to Republicans. Now 89% counted, Dems up by 0.3%
PA - 74% counted, 12.7% margin to Repubs
MI - when 72% counted there was a 7.5% margin, now 78% counted and margin down to 4.9%
Simple equation
The four deciders - GA WI MI PA
Biden needs to win 2, trump needs to win 3
GA - 2.2% margin to Repubs, was 8%, counting should finish in about 6 hours, 8% left to count. trump has claimed victory but NYT Needle projects Biden winning by 0.4%
WI - expect to finish counting early morning US time
MI - originally said counting will take until Friday, now saying will be done by tomorrow
PA - probably not known until Friday. PA has 12 point margin, won't start counting mail in votes until today. This might be a problem for Dems, but only if they count all the votes - and rememberer that trump wants to stop the count!!! haha.
In 2016 there were 12 states that counted more than 10% of their ballots after the first night, so late counting is nothing new.
YouGov poll:
71% said it's more important to count all votes than to determine outcome quickly
57% of trump supporters said it's more important to determine the outcome quickly even if many mail in ballots are not counted
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Lahnee Chen, policy advisor to Republicans:
Both sides are going to exercise every legal remedy available to them
When asked for his thoughts he said it looks very good for trump right now, he has a number of ways to win. He doesn't need all three mid western states, you have to think he has the inside track. There are lots of votes yet to be counted but are there enough for Biden to wash out the margin trump has? trump has improved his standing in certain parts of country. (How the fuck does that happen?!?!)
At this point trump has inside track, he is well positioned to win. Biden should not be ruled out but trump has the advantage.
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Post by pjaye on Nov 4, 2020 11:48:45 GMT
It's currently 13:30pm Wednesday night. I am watching 'Planet America After your earlier post, I'm watching as well - interesting and they are explaining things well. What's clear is that it still could be either of them. |
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 4, 2020 11:50:07 GMT
MI - 80% counted, 4.5% margin to trump
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 4, 2020 11:51:06 GMT
It's currently 13:30pm Wednesday night. I am watching 'Planet America After your earlier post, I'm watching as well - interesting and they are explaining things well. What's clear is that it still could be either of them. Chas did a great job of explaining the Electoral College I thought |
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 4, 2020 11:53:49 GMT
MI - 80% counted, 4.5% margin to trump Now 1.3% only! |
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 4, 2020 11:58:47 GMT
Sam Nunberg, advisor to the 2016 trump campaign:
~ Won't have a result until the end of the week at the earliest
~ trump is winning counties in the rust belt that he did not win last time
~ trump will win PA and MI
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It's the opposite. It's voted only twice for a Republican.
