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Post by cmpeter on Nov 10, 2020 3:05:58 GMT
My MIL has become a pretty big Trump fan. She and her adult children had made the decision to not talk politics many months ago. Dh calls her weekly and occasionally she would bring up politics, but he always kept it light. They didn’t talk this weekend because he felt she would be too upset. Today his sister was supposed to go over and take her shopping (MIL doesn’t drive). MIL texted her not to come saying she felt at this time her country needs her more than her kids do.
She’s texted before the election calling us sheeple, on the path to socialism, hence the agreement to not talk politics.
She’s all alone (FIL passed away 7 years ago). She really relies on her kids. We are in Seattle. She and dh’s’s brother and sister are in Chicago. The Chicago sibs are ready to call it quits. She really doesn’t have anyone else but all the Fox News she watches.
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Post by Anita on Nov 10, 2020 3:09:26 GMT
Well, that's sad, but it's her choice.
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Post by Merge on Nov 10, 2020 3:13:34 GMT
I'm sorry. It's a cult.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 10, 2020 3:15:47 GMT
Oh, yikes! How sad.
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 10, 2020 3:16:18 GMT
I am sorry. I am guessing that conservative media won't take her shopping.
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Post by cmpeter on Nov 10, 2020 3:36:03 GMT
I’m mostly worried it’s too late on both sides. Her kids are likely to not forgive her at this point. I’m not sure how they get past this.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 10, 2020 3:41:07 GMT
Really sad for the family.
((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))
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Post by Jili on Nov 10, 2020 3:43:55 GMT
I can relate. I have the 'let's not talk politics' with my Trump-loving parents (who live two States away). My father likes to bait me, and there are times that I fall for it, I admit. We haven't spoken since the election other than via text, and neither of us has said a single word. They haven't rejected me, though. That would be hard for me. We all just do our best to deal. I just can't understand, at all.
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Post by elaine on Nov 10, 2020 4:23:16 GMT
My MIL has become a pretty big Trump fan. She and her adult children had made the decision to not talk politics many months ago. Dh calls her weekly and occasionally she would bring up politics, but he always kept it light. They didn’t talk this weekend because he felt she would be too upset. Today his sister was supposed to go over and take her shopping (MIL doesn’t drive). MIL texted her not to come saying she felt at this time her country needs her more than her kids do. She’s texted before the election calling us sheeple, on the path to socialism, hence the agreement to not talk politics. She’s all alone (FIL passed away 7 years ago). She really relies on her kids. We are in Seattle. She and dh’s’s brother and sister are in Chicago. The Chicago sibs are ready to call it quits. She really doesn’t have anyone else but all the Fox News she watches. I know that it isn’t funny, but I am just struck by a middle-aged woman who somehow thinks that she is serving her country by sitting in her house watching Fox News, because her country needs her right now. I’m sorry for your husband and his siblings. |
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Post by prapea on Nov 10, 2020 4:23:41 GMT
I haven’t been in the same position as your husband and siblings. And I have said on this board before that I cannot be friends with anyone who supports trump or that I think anyone who supports trump is a racist.
With that said, is there any possibility for your MIL’s kids to separate her ideology and look at her as their mother. She voted for Trump and she thinks you all are sheeple but that doesn’t change the fact that she loves you guys right? I cannot believe I am saying this but I think she probably feels no one understands her and is pushing you all far ...could be her age and her thinking(and that goddamn Fox News too)...
I guess I am trying to say, be there for her even if she pushes back. If she talks politics, nod and don’t say anything. You know and I know what is truth and who trump is...what she says is not going to change us...what do you have to lose to give a mother the love she is pushing away?
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Nov 10, 2020 5:40:17 GMT
Is she mentally sound?
Meaning she isn’t paranoid or there isn’t some other concern where she can’t care for herself?
I don’t like that that is my first thought, but before giving up on her, is this out of character or potentially a sign of a medical concern?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 10, 2020 6:50:20 GMT
I’d be calling a PCA or a social worker to come in and take her shopping. And then let her pay for it.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Nov 10, 2020 9:30:43 GMT
How old is she?
Perhaps her mental clarity is diminished?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 10:23:58 GMT
My MIL has become a pretty big Trump fan. She and her adult children had made the decision to not talk politics many months ago. Dh calls her weekly and occasionally she would bring up politics, but he always kept it light. They didn’t talk this weekend because he felt she would be too upset. Today his sister was supposed to go over and take her shopping (MIL doesn’t drive). MIL texted her not to come saying she felt at this time her country needs her more than her kids do.
She’s texted before the election calling us sheeple, on the path to socialism, hence the agreement to not talk politics. She’s all alone (FIL passed away 7 years ago). She really relies on her kids. We are in Seattle. She and dh’s’s brother and sister are in Chicago. The Chicago sibs are ready to call it quits. She really doesn’t have anyone else but all the Fox News she watches. It doesn't make sense for her to say that. Her kids doesn't need her for practical reasons, it's her that needs her kids. Is the country going to take her shopping? It's sad though when they turn away from their families but I'm still confused how some people get so taken in by it all. |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 10, 2020 10:39:27 GMT
Leave her to it.
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Post by nlwilkins on Nov 10, 2020 10:41:57 GMT
From what you wrote, she is the one turning away from her children and not letting them help her. So she has cut off any avenue of help you can give her. She is the one who is refusing help. It is not her kids who are refusing. Hopefully, she has some other avenues of help that you don't know about.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 10, 2020 11:46:15 GMT
I can relate. I have the 'let's not talk politics' with my Trump-loving parents (who live two States away). My father likes to bait me, and there are times that I fall for it, I admit. We haven't spoken since the election other than via text, and neither of us has said a single word. They haven't rejected me, though. That would be hard for me. We all just do our best to deal. I just can't understand, at all. I have the same issue with my oldest brother. We did speak last weekend, and he tried to veer into election talk, but I stopped him. At this point I just tell myself that he isn’t quite right when it comes to politics. That helps me. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 10, 2020 11:49:44 GMT
My MIL has become a pretty big Trump fan. She and her adult children had made the decision to not talk politics many months ago. Dh calls her weekly and occasionally she would bring up politics, but he always kept it light. They didn’t talk this weekend because he felt she would be too upset. Today his sister was supposed to go over and take her shopping (MIL doesn’t drive). MIL texted her not to come saying she felt at this time her country needs her more than her kids do. She’s texted before the election calling us sheeple, on the path to socialism, hence the agreement to not talk politics. She’s all alone (FIL passed away 7 years ago). She really relies on her kids. We are in Seattle. She and dh’s’s brother and sister are in Chicago. The Chicago sibs are ready to call it quits. She really doesn’t have anyone else but all the Fox News she watches. I know that it isn’t funny, but I am just struck by a middle-aged woman who somehow thinks that she is serving her country by sitting in her house watching Fox News, because her country needs her right now. I’m sorry for your husband and his siblings. Isn’t it amazing and sad? There are so many sad variations of this story. He has divided so many families. I hope that at least some of them are able to reconcile at some point. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 10, 2020 11:55:36 GMT
I find this very sad but it's happening to all of us. I have never gone into someone else's Facebook wall to argue with them. But just recently I had a cousin tell me that my Facebook posts are more hateful than trump's Twitter feed. Me! More hateful than Trump?
I am a high user of facebook. 95% of what I post has nothing to do with politics. And he never commented on anything I posted. And now this morning has posted he's leaving Facebook for Parler. He wants an echo chamber.
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Post by teddyw on Nov 10, 2020 12:36:12 GMT
Is she mentally sound? Meaning she isn’t paranoid or there isn’t some other concern where she can’t care for herself? I don’t like that that is my first thought, but before giving up on her, is this out of character or potentially a sign of a medical concern? This was my first thought too. |
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Post by peabay on Nov 10, 2020 12:40:36 GMT
My friend's mother has done the same thing. They were really, really close and my friend said "Mom, let's just not talk politics any more" and her mother, 2 weeks ago, said: "this is democracy vs. communism", hung up and they haven't spoken since.
I asked the same thing about possible dementia but my friend really doesn't think so. Her mother is just completely and utterly brainwashed.
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Post by mikklynn on Nov 10, 2020 12:48:49 GMT
Is she mentally sound? Meaning she isn’t paranoid or there isn’t some other concern where she can’t care for herself? I don’t like that that is my first thought, but before giving up on her, is this out of character or potentially a sign of a medical concern? I had the same thought. I am worried she is dealing with dementia, given her comment about her country needing her. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 10, 2020 13:00:55 GMT
Many of you on this board have expressed the feeling of not being able to remain friends with people, including family, that don't share your political views. Perhaps she has decided the same. I have not cut off contact with anyone except one cousin who told me I was going to hell because I am a liberal. I had asked him not to post on my Facebook wall anymore because he kept telling people on my Facebook wall that Trump was an answer to prayer about gay rights. Being gay is against the bible and therefore all this happening was God's will. And I asked him not to post on my wall with such crazy ideas on political posts because he was offending my gay friends. He was offensive. And then he told me I was going to hell. And I unfriended him. Everyone else I have simply hidden from my feed. So I wasn't looking to cut off any family relationships. But there are people in my family who I will never look at the same way again. They are leaving. They are unfriending. They are telling me I'm going to hell and am more hateful than Trump. And you know me from this message board, do I really strike you as hateful? |
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Post by peabay on Nov 10, 2020 14:02:59 GMT
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Post by annie on Nov 10, 2020 14:15:31 GMT
I am so sorry. I am in a similar boat. I don't know what to do. I was blocked and cut off from my brother's family. She's calls us out on social media and mocks us. (Mind you none of us talk politics on social media. She just tries to bait us.) My mom and I decided not to talk politics, but she is obsessed with it. She's still grieving my dad (died 2 years ago) and is all alone. And this is making it hard for me to even want to talk to her.
Yesterday my SIL called us all "mentally ill and medicated" on Twitter. She said "that explains their Biden support". Not true in any way, other than my daughter who has dealt with depression her whole life. I was very upset.
((Hugs)). I think there are a lot of us.
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Post by worldwanderer75 on Nov 10, 2020 14:23:58 GMT
I can completely relate. My MIL is a huge Trump supporter and is VERY vocal to her kids and grandkids and is constantly calling us out over our politics. She has 8 children and all of them and all but one of their spouses voted for Biden. Now she has grandchildren old enough to vote and messages them privately to talk politics. None of them are buying her rhetoric but it makes me SO angry that she engages in these discussions at all. She told my two older kids that their parents are baby killers. It's so ick that she continues to cross the line even when we have asked her to stop. How is Trump more important than family relationships?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 14:30:00 GMT
vs. Family. See the diff?!?!? I don't have or desire any racist, homophobic, greed-over-care FRIENDS. I do have them in my family. And for the sake of family, I keep the peace. Do you see how that's different than the OP's MIL?!? FAMILY!?!? not FRIENDS - which are CHOSEN?!?!? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 14:34:57 GMT
And you know me from this message board, do I really strike you as hateful? A resounding - NO. As I've said numerous times, w/the cultists, it's about guns, gays, god and greed. Really, it's about the greed, but the leaders use the cover of god, gays and guns to get the cultists reliably to the polls, voting against their own health and well-being. I think we're finally seeing that the cultists will cut off even family to continue to live in their brainwashed world w/o pushback, information, data or evidence. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Nov 10, 2020 14:42:58 GMT
I would wonder how she thinks she is helping the country is she donating money? Too many elderly get cheated out of money they can’t afford to give.
I’m sorry this is happening and to so many. To loose friends and family over this man is just sad.
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Post by cmpeter on Nov 10, 2020 15:00:07 GMT
I don't believe there is dementia. Her two children that live in Chicago see her weekly (or had been, I'm not sure what will happen now). She does suffer from anxiety and depression and takes medication. Dh hasn't seen her in person for a year due to Covid. He used to fly out a couple times a year and stay over weekends when he traveled to Chicago for work. He has been calling her weekly and they had avoided politics and seemed to have normal conversations. She's 72. She normally has great relationship with her kids.
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