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Post by artgirl1 on Nov 21, 2020 22:32:29 GMT
'Rory Wells, 51, a New Jersey lawyer who attended a pro-Trump “stop the steal” election protest in Trenton last week, said he now watches Newsmax because Fox isn’t sufficiently conservative. “ I like that I get to hear from Rudy Giuliani and others who are not immediately discounted as being crazy,” he said of Trump’s lead election lawyer. That perspective might be debatable. |
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Post by artgirl1 on Nov 21, 2020 22:39:06 GMT
Kayleigh McEnany saying "his presidency was never accepted. What difference does it make. His Presidency was accepted by his sheeples, and we all know he doesn't give damn about any other citizen that doesn't bow down and blindly follow him. Most people over the age of two know that the world does not evolve around them. Too bad he never learned that basic life lesson. If he wanted blind loyalty, he should have bought himself a dictatorship in one of those Countries he rails about. |
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Post by lucyg on Nov 21, 2020 23:35:49 GMT
pixiechick, I don’t understand your argument about the Democrats not “accepting” Trump’s win vs. not conceding. Hillary conceded on election night, Obama invited Trump to the White House the next day. That is both concession and acceptance, right there. And there was most certainly an orderly transition, at least on the part of the Obama administration. We can’t help it if Trump’s dumbass people couldn’t be bothered to participate. There is ample real-time evidence of the Obama administration trying to help the Trump administration succeed. And yet, now they are lying about it. Here it is right out of Kayleigh’s lying mouth.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 22, 2020 2:36:53 GMT
Anyone want to quote me about why I care so much about Miz I caring so much about Pink Lady caring so much? This could get really fun!!! Joey Tribbiani is that you? How you doin’? 😉 |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 22, 2020 2:40:45 GMT
I’m really trying to understand the question being asked. The subject says “did Obama/Clinton concede the 2016 election?” Obama didn’t run. There is nothing for him to concede. Surely everyone knows that right? Also, it is well documented that Hilary Clinton conceded. Not sure why that is a question?Once you enter the thread, the poll wording changes and asks if the Democrats conceded the election. Again, I’m confused. The only Democrat running against Trump was Clinton. It really doesn’t matter if Joe Blow Democrat conceded or not. He didn’t have the capacity to concede in Hilary’s place. Is the question being inferred did the Obama administration start a transition immediately with Trump? That is also proven to be yes. Are people really debating this? NO. No one is.
Sorry if I’m being obtuse, I just don’t get it. You're not being obtuse. The problem is the whole idea of this thread doesn't make sense. The problem is that the tweet in the OP, then Freddie (and everyone who followed her lead) equated Kayleigh McEnany saying "his presidency was never accepted." with "Hillary never conceded". Which she has never said. No one has said. Ever. Of course Hillary conceded and everyone knows that and no one disputes it. Kayleigh McEnany's statement was referencing the fact that they spent 4 years trying to get him out of office, not that Hillary never conceded. Nope. You turned it into the clusterfuck that you did by playing your usual semantics game Gia. The Liar Kayleigh stated— “Trump wasn't given an 'orderly transition of power' in 2016.” He was. Absolutely, 100%, he was. |
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Nov 22, 2020 20:58:43 GMT
Basically Trump is pissed of that not EVERYONE bowed down and kissed his feet. And now it's because not EVERYONE is outraged that he didn't win a second term. It's all about his ego and his cult following.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 23, 2020 18:02:16 GMT
pixiechick, I don’t understand your argument about the Democrats not “accepting” Trump’s win vs. not conceding. Hillary conceded on election night, Obama invited Trump to the White House the next day. That is both concession and acceptance, right there. Yes she conceded in a private phone call to Trump that night. She didn't have the class and grace to address those who supported her the same night. Obama showed grace and class when he invited Trump to the White House. Those are completely different than Democrats spending the next 4 years trying to remove him because they didn't accept him. Hillary even called him an "illegitimate president". |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 19:01:55 GMT
pixiechick, I don’t understand your argument about the Democrats not “accepting” Trump’s win vs. not conceding. Hillary conceded on election night, Obama invited Trump to the White House the next day. That is both concession and acceptance, right there. Yes she conceded in a private phone call to Trump that night. She didn't have the class and grace to address those who supported her the same night. Obama showed grace and class when he invited Trump to the White House. Those are completely different than Democrats spending the next 4 years trying to remove him because they didn't accept him. Hillary even called him an "illegitimate president". Because he violated so many rules from the get go, you nitwit. If there was a rule or a law he was supposed to follow, he violated it. Why can't you see that?! He was never even remotely qualified to even run. He should've been voted off the ballot like Ross perot was. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 23, 2020 20:23:26 GMT
Basically Trump is pissed of that not EVERYONE bowed down and kissed his feet. And now it's because not EVERYONE is outraged that he didn't win a second term. It's all about his ego and his cult following. Truth. |
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 23, 2020 20:59:35 GMT
Yes she conceded in a private phone call to Trump that night. She didn't have the class and grace to address those who supported her the same night. Obama showed grace and class when he invited Trump to the White House. Those are completely different than Democrats spending the next 4 years trying to remove him because they didn't accept him. Hillary even called him an "illegitimate president". Because he violated so many rules from the get go, you nitwit. If there was a rule or a law he was supposed to follow, he violated it. Why can't you see that?! He was never even remotely qualified to even run. He should've been voted off the ballot like Ross perot was. They vowed and started to get rid of him before he even took office. Before he had done anything as president. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 21:51:25 GMT
Because he violated so many rules from the get go, you nitwit. If there was a rule or a law he was supposed to follow, he violated it. Why can't you see that?! He was never even remotely qualified to even run. He should've been voted off the ballot like Ross perot was. They vowed and started to get rid of him before he even took office. Before he had done anything as president. Once again you prove to twist and ignore. He violated the emoluments clause, the one that applies as soon as you're elected. From the day he won, he was shady, unethical, immoral, and broke laws. He deserved to be impeached from the start. He should've never been allowed in the white house. So yeah, calls to have him removed were justified. But hey, if you'd quit chugging that Kool aid, you'd know this. Do me a favor and just go away. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 17:01:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 17:48:56 GMT
Because he violated so many rules from the get go, you nitwit. If there was a rule or a law he was supposed to follow, he violated it. Why can't you see that?! He was never even remotely qualified to even run. He should've been voted off the ballot like Ross perot was. They vowed and started to get rid of him before he even took office. Before he had done anything as president. They didn't need to wait, some knew that he was a conman from his past history. The whole damn world was shocked that America had voted such a despicable conman into their highest office. Sadly non of the people that bow and scrape to him had the balls to do anything about it, they dismissed 11/12? others and nominated him to let him loose to create havoc and line his and his families pockets for 4 years. |
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Nov 24, 2020 17:55:28 GMT
Because he violated so many rules from the get go, you nitwit. If there was a rule or a law he was supposed to follow, he violated it. Why can't you see that?! He was never even remotely qualified to even run. He should've been voted off the ballot like Ross perot was. They vowed and started to get rid of him before he even took office. Before he had done anything as president. Because during the election he was a bully, an asshole and was always on the attack. It was like watching a really bad reality show.😐 |
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Post by papersilly on Nov 24, 2020 18:01:22 GMT
speaking of concession, i don't care if 45 never concedes. let him keep his concession. he can hold on to it tight, pet it, comb it's hair and call it covfefe for all i care.
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 24, 2020 19:23:24 GMT
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Post by lesley on Nov 24, 2020 21:54:39 GMT
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 24, 2020 22:48:51 GMT
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Post by MizIndependent on Nov 24, 2020 22:51:11 GMT
Why do you care so much? Clearly it matters to you, why is that? Miz I, why do you care so much that Pink cares so much? Clearly it matters to you, why is that? Anyone want to quote me about why I care so much about Miz I caring so much about Pink Lady caring so much? This could get really fun!!! I'm curious...that's why I'm asking the question. She could simply ignore what pixiechick says (something she is actually wondering that others don't do) but instead seems to relish the opportunity to bash her.
It just seems contradictory to me, that's why.
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 24, 2020 22:52:42 GMT
They vowed and started to get rid of him before he even took office. Before he had done anything as president. They didn't need to wait, some knew that he was a conman from his past history. The whole damn world was shocked that America had voted such a despicable conman into their highest office. Sadly non of the people that bow and scrape to him had the balls to do anything about it, they dismissed 11/12? others and nominated him to let him loose to create havoc and line his and his families pockets for 4 years. They didn't need to wait, some knew that he was a conman from his past history. Not an impeachable offense. The whole damn world was shocked that America had voted such a despicable conman into their highest office. Not an impeachable offense. Sadly non of the people that bow and scrape to him had the balls to do anything about it, they dismissed 11/12? others and nominated him to let him loose to create havoc and line his and his families pockets for 4 years. Not an impeachable offense. |
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Post by pixiechick on Nov 24, 2020 23:10:03 GMT
Do me a favor and just go away. You calling me names and then asking me to do you a "favor" is hillarious. It's really a shame that you can’t maturely handle diverse thought. That you can’t competently engage or rebut is intellectual laziness. |
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Post by gar on Nov 24, 2020 23:22:07 GMT
It's really a shame that you can’t maturely handle diverse thought. That you can’t competently engage or rebut is intellectual laziness. I guess you have to clutch at straws and try to feel superior somehow  |
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Post by megop on Nov 24, 2020 23:22:50 GMT
pixiechick, I don’t understand your argument about the Democrats not “accepting” Trump’s win vs. not conceding. Hillary conceded on election night, Obama invited Trump to the White House the next day. That is both concession and acceptance, right there. Yes she conceded in a private phone call to Trump that night. She didn't have the class and grace to address those who supported her the same night. Obama showed grace and class when he invited Trump to the White House. Those are completely different than Democrats spending the next 4 years trying to remove him because they didn't accept him. Hillary even called him an "illegitimate president". You've got to be joking here right? I mean seriously. What in the world does the actual word "accept" mean to you here? Accept doesn't mean, STFU and go with the flow. That's not how a two party system has EVER worked in this country. My God woman, have you ever taken a history class? Edited to add: Moreover, challenging leadership is the very beauty of our system. Being POTUS is hard and you have to be excellent in bringing people to your mindset and vision. |
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Post by lucyg on Nov 24, 2020 23:40:32 GMT
pixiechick, I don’t understand your argument about the Democrats not “accepting” Trump’s win vs. not conceding. Hillary conceded on election night, Obama invited Trump to the White House the next day. That is both concession and acceptance, right there. Yes she conceded in a private phone call to Trump that night. She didn't have the class and grace to address those who supported her the same night. Obama showed grace and class when he invited Trump to the White House. Those are completely different than Democrats spending the next 4 years trying to remove him because they didn't accept him. Hillary even called him an "illegitimate president". None of that has anything to do with whether the Democrats conceded the election, accepted his win, or most of all, because it’s where this whole discussion started, whether Trump was given a “smooth transition.” Of course he was. He just took it, tore it up, and tossed it in the trash. Now Kayleigh is trying to blame Democrats, instead of Trump, who deserves all the blame. And the Republicans set out on day one to sabotage Obama’s presidency. I know you know that. Why, after eight years of that garbage, would you notice or care that Democrats didn’t like Trump? |
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Post by megop on Nov 24, 2020 23:45:53 GMT
Yes she conceded in a private phone call to Trump that night. She didn't have the class and grace to address those who supported her the same night. Obama showed grace and class when he invited Trump to the White House. Those are completely different than Democrats spending the next 4 years trying to remove him because they didn't accept him. Hillary even called him an "illegitimate president". None of that has anything to do with whether the Democrats conceded the election, accepted his win, or most of all, because it’s where this whole discussion started, whether Trump was given a “smooth transition.” Of course he was. He just took it, tore it up, and tossed it in the trash. Now Kayleigh is trying to blame Democrats, instead of Trump, who deserves all the blame. And the Republicans set out on day one to sabotage Obama’s presidency. I know you know that. Why, after eight years of that garbage, would you notice or care that Democrats didn’t like Trump? Sorry lucy, I have to disagree here, too. Republican's "set out day one to sabotage Obama." Again, learn from history. POTUS is effing hard. Always has been. And to me, it is the true leader who knows how to overcome all that while bringing a nation together. No POTUS ever went through his term not being challenged by the opposing party to the best of their ability on either side in my opinion. |
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Post by tracylynn on Nov 24, 2020 23:49:20 GMT
Do me a favor and just go away. You calling me names and then asking me to do you a "favor" is hillarious. It's really a shame that you can’t maturely handle diverse thought. That you can’t competently engage or rebut is intellectual laziness. Diverse thought is NOT what you provide. You provide garbage non-facts, with the hint of a racist twist based on your sources. |
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Post by tracylynn on Nov 24, 2020 23:52:54 GMT
None of that has anything to do with whether the Democrats conceded the election, accepted his win, or most of all, because it’s where this whole discussion started, whether Trump was given a “smooth transition.” Of course he was. He just took it, tore it up, and tossed it in the trash. Now Kayleigh is trying to blame Democrats, instead of Trump, who deserves all the blame. And the Republicans set out on day one to sabotage Obama’s presidency. I know you know that. Why, after eight years of that garbage, would you notice or care that Democrats didn’t like Trump? Sorry lucy, I have to disagree here, too. Republican's "set out day one to sabotage Obama." Again, learn from history. POTUS is effing hard. Always has been. And to me, it is the true leader who knows how to overcome all that while bringing a nation together. No POTUS ever went through his term not being challenged by the opposing party to the best of their ability on either side in my opinion. Except for Mitch McConnell actually said, out loud, to the press, that they were going to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. That is NOT the same as "POTUS is effing hard". He openly bragged about not allowing him to push anything through. That is NOT the role of government. It is NOT the role of the minority or majority party. They are supposed to work together. Not openly take glee in the fact that they were purposely obstructing anything that Obama wanted to do. |
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Post by lucyg on Nov 24, 2020 23:54:32 GMT
None of that has anything to do with whether the Democrats conceded the election, accepted his win, or most of all, because it’s where this whole discussion started, whether Trump was given a “smooth transition.” Of course he was. He just took it, tore it up, and tossed it in the trash. Now Kayleigh is trying to blame Democrats, instead of Trump, who deserves all the blame. And the Republicans set out on day one to sabotage Obama’s presidency. I know you know that. Why, after eight years of that garbage, would you notice or care that Democrats didn’t like Trump? Sorry lucy, I have to disagree here, too. Republican's "set out day one to sabotage Obama." Again, learn from history. POTUS is effing hard. Always has been. And to me, it is the true leader who knows how to overcome all that while bringing a nation together. No POTUS ever went through his term not being challenged by the opposing party to the best of their ability on either side in my opinion. I agree with that, but I was referring to the fact that Mitch McConnell and his minions got together on Inauguration Day 2009 to discuss how to make sure Obama would only be a one-term president. They are most certainly entitled, but when pixiechick is all mad because Democrats went into Trump’s inauguration already hating him, it was certainly not something without precedent. And I believe that Donald Trump was much more worthy of being hated right from the git-go than Barack Obama ever could be, in a million billion years. But p.s. I like what tracylynn said, too. |
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Post by megop on Nov 24, 2020 23:56:49 GMT
Sorry lucy, I have to disagree here, too. Republican's "set out day one to sabotage Obama." Again, learn from history. POTUS is effing hard. Always has been. And to me, it is the true leader who knows how to overcome all that while bringing a nation together. No POTUS ever went through his term not being challenged by the opposing party to the best of their ability on either side in my opinion. I agree with that, but I was referring to the fact that Mitch McConnell and his minions got together on Inauguration Day 2009 to discuss how to make sure Obama would only be a one-term president. They are most certainly entitled, but when pixiechick is all mad because Democrats went into Trump’s inauguration already hating him, it was certainly not something without precedent. And I believe that Donald Trump was much more worthy of being hated right from the git-go than Barack Obama ever could be, in a million billion years. Now that I agree. Trump created his own ultimate fate most certainly. He'll NEVER believe that, but he did. |
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