Did Obama/ Clinton concede the 2016 election?
Nov 25, 2020 1:29:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 1:29:44 GMT
I remember back when both sides would work together more often then not. Because both sides understood that not everybody was going to get what they wanted.
Then along came Newt Gingrich & Dennis Hastert and the Hastert Rule and things changed.
When President Obama became president he did have a Democratic Congress and he did reach out to the Republicans, especially with the ACA. David Axelrod said the ACA includes 100 amendments put forth by the Republicans but in the end not one Republican voted for it. At the time David Axelrod was a senior advisor to President Obama and I’m going with the number he said because I remember reading that Republican amendments were included in the final version of the ACA.
Prior to it coming to a vote and prior to it becoming law the Republicans did a successful hit job on the ACA. Remember the death panels? My favorite snippet was an old lady on Medicare telling a reporter she didn’t want the government involved in her healthcare and that was why she was against the ACA.
It was after that the Democrats lost the House and the Hastert Rule was firmly put into place again.
Then the Democrats lost the majority in the Senate and Mitch McConnell excelled at proving he had absolutely no intention of working with President Obama. I mean when was the last time a sitting President was denied hearings on his Supreme Court pick with 11 months left in his term? And don’t get me started on all the judges McConnell denied President Obama before and after he became the majority leader.
I was curious about exactly when McConnell said his goal was to make President Obama a one term President.
From the Washington Post
“McConnell: After 1994, the public had the impression we Republicans overpromised and underdelivered. We suffered from some degree of hubris and acted as if the president was irrelevant and we would roll over him. By the summer of 1995, he was already on the way to being reelected, and we were hanging on for our lives.
NJ: What does this mean now?
McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”
NJ: What’s the job?
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
NJ: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?
McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.
NJ: What are the big issues?
McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.
NJ: What will you seek from the president on the tax issue?
McConnell: At the very least, I believe we should extend all of the Bush tax cuts. And I prefer to describe this as keeping current tax policy. It’s been on the books for 10 years. Now, how long that [extension] is, is something we can discuss. It was clear his position was not [favored] among all Senate Democrats. They had their own divisions. I don’t think those divisions are going to be any less in November and December.”
“Meet us half way on some of the big issues”. The Republicans certainly didn’t on the ACA did they?
IMO this country is best govern from the center, slightly to the left or slightly to the right depending on who’s sitting in the White House. Which means both sides work together on most of not all important issues. But in the 1990s the Republicans picked up their marbles and went home. Showing absolutely no interest in the word “compromise “ unless it’s the other guy was doing it. So it makes a hard job even harder for a Democratic President to reach across the aisle if the other party turns their back.
Biden is going to try because he remembers a time when the two sides would work together for the good of the country and its citizens. And I wish him well but I’m not holding my breath he will be successful.
Then along came Newt Gingrich & Dennis Hastert and the Hastert Rule and things changed.
When President Obama became president he did have a Democratic Congress and he did reach out to the Republicans, especially with the ACA. David Axelrod said the ACA includes 100 amendments put forth by the Republicans but in the end not one Republican voted for it. At the time David Axelrod was a senior advisor to President Obama and I’m going with the number he said because I remember reading that Republican amendments were included in the final version of the ACA.
Prior to it coming to a vote and prior to it becoming law the Republicans did a successful hit job on the ACA. Remember the death panels? My favorite snippet was an old lady on Medicare telling a reporter she didn’t want the government involved in her healthcare and that was why she was against the ACA.
It was after that the Democrats lost the House and the Hastert Rule was firmly put into place again.
Then the Democrats lost the majority in the Senate and Mitch McConnell excelled at proving he had absolutely no intention of working with President Obama. I mean when was the last time a sitting President was denied hearings on his Supreme Court pick with 11 months left in his term? And don’t get me started on all the judges McConnell denied President Obama before and after he became the majority leader.
I was curious about exactly when McConnell said his goal was to make President Obama a one term President.
From the Washington Post
“McConnell: After 1994, the public had the impression we Republicans overpromised and underdelivered. We suffered from some degree of hubris and acted as if the president was irrelevant and we would roll over him. By the summer of 1995, he was already on the way to being reelected, and we were hanging on for our lives.
NJ: What does this mean now?
McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”
NJ: What’s the job?
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
NJ: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?
McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.
NJ: What are the big issues?
McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.
NJ: What will you seek from the president on the tax issue?
McConnell: At the very least, I believe we should extend all of the Bush tax cuts. And I prefer to describe this as keeping current tax policy. It’s been on the books for 10 years. Now, how long that [extension] is, is something we can discuss. It was clear his position was not [favored] among all Senate Democrats. They had their own divisions. I don’t think those divisions are going to be any less in November and December.”
“Meet us half way on some of the big issues”. The Republicans certainly didn’t on the ACA did they?
IMO this country is best govern from the center, slightly to the left or slightly to the right depending on who’s sitting in the White House. Which means both sides work together on most of not all important issues. But in the 1990s the Republicans picked up their marbles and went home. Showing absolutely no interest in the word “compromise “ unless it’s the other guy was doing it. So it makes a hard job even harder for a Democratic President to reach across the aisle if the other party turns their back.
Biden is going to try because he remembers a time when the two sides would work together for the good of the country and its citizens. And I wish him well but I’m not holding my breath he will be successful.
