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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 30, 2020 22:09:45 GMT
Oldest DS (high school senior) just asked if I thought they would be going back to school this school year. Younger two are complaining about missing their first basketball tournaments, which were supposed to be coming up this weekend. DH is quarantined after finding out yesterday that he was exposed by a coworker last Monday. I am stressed due to having to help the 3rd and 6th graders with school while also working FT. I am just feeling overwhelmed today and feeling a little hopeless about all of this. Most of the time I am fine with what is going on and just take it day by day. But today I find myself wondering when things will get better. Even a few months ago was more hopeful than it is now. It seems that unless we have a hard shutdown again (which seems unlikely for a variety of reasons) there isn't going to be a significant change in the numbers. Too many people still getting together with people, too many things open, etc.
What are your thoughts about this? Are you hopeful for spring? Or are you feeling down about the way things are going as well?
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Post by SockMonkey on Nov 30, 2020 22:12:48 GMT
May. Maybe.
Buckle up.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 30, 2020 22:16:07 GMT
We are currently on our third, and worst "surge" (Seattle). I don't see things getting better until late spring/summer at the earliest. Try not to be too down if you can. We've got vaccines on the way now!....hopefully by this time next year we'll be starting to look at this fall/winter 2020/2021 in our rearview mirror.
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Post by gizzy on Nov 30, 2020 22:17:38 GMT
I have a bad feeling that this is only going to get worse until around February. I'm trying not to be a fatalist but until everyone starts doing what they need to do, this isn't going to stop.
I'm hopeful for April. That's when I tell myself that the vaccine will be available for everyone. Every time someone tells me they're not getting it, I say thank you. One less person in front of me in line.
Hopefully you can get a chance to recharge during Christmas break. I keep trying to find something each day to be grateful for and to focus on. Otherwise my anxiety goes through the roof.
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Post by katlady on Nov 30, 2020 22:21:27 GMT
I think things will be bad at least through January. We have Christmas and New Year’s coming up. After that, who knows. Also depends on the vaccine.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Nov 30, 2020 22:25:14 GMT
My DD is a senior in HS. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't go back at all and I am actually worried this is how she will start college in 2021.  Edited to add: my kids do in person school 2xa week, and virtual the other 3 days. DH and I just made the decision to have them stay home until at least mid-Jan. Numbers aren't awful here but they arent as good as they were and are actually getting worse. |
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Post by Mel on Nov 30, 2020 22:26:25 GMT
I'm truly doubting we will see any major changes in the way things are going (unless we lock down tighter) until the spring. I know that's not likely a popular opinion, and I'd love to not think that way, but unless people suddenly start to take this more seriously it's just not going to go away. The vaccine will make a difference but there are SO many theories out there and reasons that people are saying that they won't take it(microchips being injected at the same time so they can track us is the stupidest one I've seen).
I would LOVE to be proven wrong!!
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 30, 2020 22:30:35 GMT
Add me to the list of.......hopefully school will start in person in the Fall. With the vaccinations and if people will take them. They have said there are side affects. Parents will lie that their kids have been vaccinated and quarantines will continue to happen.
I just think it's just a cycle that we are all on.
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Post by quinlove on Nov 30, 2020 22:30:50 GMT
I think things will be bad at least through January. We have Christmas and New Year’s coming up. After that, who knows. Also depends on the vaccine. This is pretty much what I was going to post. Also - buckle up. 😬 |
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Post by jubejubes on Nov 30, 2020 22:32:57 GMT
I am thinking about April or May.
Now, in your time of stress, simply imagine having a puppy in the mix, with how stressed out you are right now.
Please don't get a dog.
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 30, 2020 22:34:21 GMT
My guess is this current spike will start going down in January/February.
But things won’t be “ok” until we get a vaccine and people get the vaccine.
I have heard of my first friend who is scheduled to get the vaccine in December - exciting.
I assume we will be masking and distancing through summer 2022.
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Post by Just T on Nov 30, 2020 22:37:12 GMT
I honestly think it is only going to get worse. There are too many people who still think it's not a big deal, and even if it IS a big deal, so what, they gotta live their lives. I know more people who had big Thanksgiving celebrations than not, and I really worry about what things will be like by Christmas. I try not to think about it too much wear my masks, and stay home as much as I can.
When I do think about though, I am scared sh!tless.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 30, 2020 22:37:56 GMT
I think things will be bad at least through January. We have Christmas and New Year’s coming up. After that, who knows. Also depends on the vaccine.  I'm thinking along the same lines. I'm not sure a horrifying number of deaths and overwhelmed hospitals will keep people from gathering at Christmas and the results of that behavior will hit hard miid-January. I don't think things will be anywhere close to normal until the vaccine is available to a significant percent of the population. I'm hopeful DS will be on campus next September or possibly this summer. DD is in a wedding scheduled for May and the bride is 100% planning a big, blow out party anticipating no restrictions by then. I'm not sure it will go ahead as she wants.  |
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Post by hopemax on Nov 30, 2020 22:43:56 GMT
It seems like it takes a good 6 weeks to 2 months to wind through a wave. But because of the holiday gatherings you know are going to happen, I don't think we are going to truly peak until a few weeks after New Year's, so like until the Inauguration. So we're talking March just to get through what we have already spun up in the pipeline.
After that, the vaccines should have started distribution, new Federal organization should have started kicking in (which I think will prioritize getting schools back to a more functional state in the spring, and definitely by fall), and so then I think it will start to get better. But people will be impatient, because it will take through all of 2021 for things to return to an actual normal, just with how long it will take to get enough people vaccinated.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 30, 2020 22:47:21 GMT
I think things will be bad at least through January. We have Christmas and New Year’s coming up. After that, who knows. Also depends on the vaccine. That's my thought as well and I'm a self-proclaimed optimist  I'm hoping that by late January we'll see numbers start to come down slightly but not enough to really matter. I'm hoping we can keep the elementary schools open, the HSs and colleges are all close for another week (state order), I'm not uber confident they'll reopen then though. |
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Post by AllieC on Nov 30, 2020 22:47:28 GMT
Watching from afar I would say not anytime soon. With the numbers the way they are, very few restrictions and people travelling for Thanksgiving (millions flying WTAF!) and Christmas it is only going to get worse. I'm so sorry this is happening, it is horrendous watching it unfold from here, let alone living with in it. It seems like the Trump admin has just washed their hands of it and can't be bothered doing anything.
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Post by katlady on Nov 30, 2020 22:50:24 GMT
I think things will be bad at least through January. We have Christmas and New Year’s coming up. After that, who knows. Also depends on the vaccine. That's my thought as well and I'm a self-proclaimed optimist I'm hoping that by late January we'll see numbers start to come down slightly but not enough to really matter. I'm hoping we can keep the elementary schools open, the HSs and colleges are all close for another week (state order), I'm not uber confident they'll reopen then though. Local colleges here have already announced they will be online only for Spring 2021, with a few exception for lab type classes. They were all online only for Fall 2020. |
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Post by papersilly on Nov 30, 2020 22:51:09 GMT
i think the vaccinations will be in swing by january so by february and march, a decent number of people will have gotten it already. hopefully that will bring down the numbers.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 30, 2020 22:53:12 GMT
I don’t see things improving until we actually do something about it in a cohesive manner.
And I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Even with the change of administration there is only so much they can do without cooperation and who knows if we will get a cooperative senate. And states and local governments have to cooperate and provide enforcement, which for some states won’t happen any time soon.
I’m not at all hopeful about this
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Post by katlady on Nov 30, 2020 22:54:54 GMT
Watching from afar I would say not anytime soon. With the numbers the way they are, very few restrictions and people travelling for Thanksgiving (millions flying WTAF!) and Christmas it is only going to get worse. I'm so sorry this is happening, it is horrendous watching it unfold from here, let alone living with in it. It seems like the Trump admin has just washed their hands of it and can't be bothered doing anything. I know 4 people that flew over the holiday. One was not even for family, it was a vacation getaway. SMH! |
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Post by belgravia on Nov 30, 2020 22:57:20 GMT
I really can’t even think about it. Our province has the worst numbers in Canada right now. New restrictions were just put in place, mainly targeting in home gatherings...how do you even police that? My daughter is in first year university 100% online. It sucks for her. She’s already said if classes aren’t in person September 2021 she’s taking a gap year. I really can’t blame her. I mean right now she’s essentially teaching herself physics and linear algebra, and it’s been really exceptionally tough.
I’m hoping we will see more widespread vaccine distribution by the summer. But yeah, it’s going to get worse before it gets better. This is going to be a really challenging winter to get through.
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Post by Just T on Nov 30, 2020 22:59:01 GMT
And I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Even with the change of administration there is only so much they can do without cooperation and who knows if we will get a cooperative senate. And states and local governments have to cooperate and provide enforcement, which for some states won’t happen any time soon. I’m not at all hopeful about this Yeah. I am pretty sure that no matter what measures Biden takes once he is in office, even if it is what is necessary, people will lose their damn minds and be in an uproar about it. Look what happened to the governor of Michigan? I am not hopeful, either. I plan to hunker down for the winter and do nothing but go to work and the grocery store. My coworkers all have kids, so if schools shut down again, we will all work from home like we did in the spring, and I will honestly be okay with that. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 30, 2020 23:00:01 GMT
I don’t see things improving until we actually do something about it in a cohesive manner. And I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Even with the change of administration there is only so much they can do without cooperation and who knows if we will get a cooperative senate. And states and local governments have to cooperate and provide enforcement, which for some states won’t happen any time soon. I’m not at all hopeful about this yeah, this. IMO, unfortunately, the people who don't believe it won't change their minds just because of a change in the executive branch of the government. Anything they want to do to help stop the spread will most likely be met with resistance from Trumpers as 'liberal overblown fear-mongering' or the like. So I don't see much changing (in general) until the vaccine starts getting widely distributed. |
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Post by craftykitten on Nov 30, 2020 23:07:01 GMT
My illustrious Prime Minister has apparently told MPs that the end is in sight, or something. Having a vaccine locally is one thing, but as long as people are still travelling globally between countries with such different approaches, I think it's still going to be a problem well into next year. Especially with Christmas and New Year.
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 30, 2020 23:07:56 GMT
In my head, the vaccine becomes available to the general public in March. We aren't dealing with kids or school, so it hasn't been stressful as much as just boring and not seeing family much or traveling. I do feel for those with kids at home because you are taking on all of their fears and frustrations too.
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Post by Belle on Nov 30, 2020 23:08:08 GMT
I don't think my kids will go back this year and I don't think there will be sports in my area either. For the schools, there is a reasonable amount of caution but also the enormous amount of coordination it will take to get kids back in person. I just don't see that happening in the next couple of months. Might be different for those districts that have had kids already attending in person for part of the time. My kids haven't been in school since mid-March.
Sports seemed to be opening up mid-October but that only lasted 2 weeks. By the beginning of November, things took a step backwards and now kids can only practice if they are wearing masks. It isn't easy to practice soccer in the rain for 2 hours while wearing a mask.
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Post by Peal on Nov 30, 2020 23:09:52 GMT
Our schools have been back full time since the end of August. DS, a sophomore, has been quarantined once for exposure in October and then contracted Covid and quarantined in November. At the end of his quarantine the school announced it had to soft close because of the number of kids out sick and they closed through the thanksgiving break. He went back today to start the new trimester after being home for the last month doing online learning.
Our district has been keeping things as regular as possible with lots of sports. Only canceling when too many kids on one team or another had been exposed or tested positive.
Our community positivity rate is high, but the community doesn't want to do the hard things so we just pretend things are normal and deal with the disruptions as they come. I'm very curious to see how it goes through the holiday season with families gathering together.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 23:13:09 GMT
I'm thinking by March we should start seeing a downtrend.
Hopefully the vaccine can be widely distributed come spring. Then we should finally see numbers go down.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 30, 2020 23:22:35 GMT
Look what happened to the governor of Michigan? Hopefully he'll learn from her mistakes. She came down with a hammer and issued way, way more executive orders than any other state. According to this map she issued more than any other state....by far! And that was from June, by October she'd issued 180 this year. Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-mask, etc, but she didn't do herself any favors by coming down so hard. |
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Post by pilcas on Nov 30, 2020 23:25:22 GMT
Add me to the list of.......hopefully school will start in person in the Fall. With the vaccinations and if people will take them. They have said there are side affects. Parents will lie that their kids have been vaccinated and quarantines will continue to happen. I just think it's just a cycle that we are all on. I think that, at least in my state NY, this will be a required vaccine for schools, just like many others are. I imagine drs proof of vaccine will be needed so I don’t think a lie is going to cut it in this situation. I also suspect a vaccine will be required to travel abroad, and the US might also require it to entering visitors. |
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I'm thinking along the same lines. I'm not sure a horrifying number of deaths and overwhelmed hospitals will keep people from gathering at Christmas and the results of that behavior will hit hard miid-January. I don't think things will be anywhere close to normal until the vaccine is available to a significant percent of the population.
I'm hoping that by late January we'll see numbers start to come down slightly but not enough to really matter. I'm hoping we can keep the elementary schools open, the HSs and colleges are all close for another week (state order), I'm not uber confident they'll reopen then though. 
