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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2014 13:04:42 GMT
I received one of those "add three ice cubes" orchids a couple months ago. It has finished blooming now and I've cut back the stem to above one of the notches towards the bottom of the stem. I'm not sure where to go from here because I'm now reading that I've screwed up this plant by giving it ice and by trimming it back so far.
Would the orchid expert be around and be able to offer me some advice to make this lovely plant realm? This is my first orchid and I'd love to start having more in my home if I'm able to grow them without totally messing them up.
Thanks!
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Post by penny on Nov 9, 2014 13:10:01 GMT
I'm watching this too - I have two of those mini orchids that I have no idea what to do with...
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2014 13:11:06 GMT
I saw the mini orchids yesterday and I really like them. I'm wondering if I get orchids at different times if they will continue to bloom at different times after the first bloom,
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Post by jennyap on Nov 9, 2014 13:17:40 GMT
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Nov 9, 2014 14:29:29 GMT
I thought it was Angievp. I tried to link her name but it didn't work. Eta--based on the post above mine, it did work! M~
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 9, 2014 14:34:32 GMT
I'm no expert, but do successfully grow orchids. I find that they actually do well with very little care. I think most people run into issues as they're impatient. Find a nice sunny spot while it's dormant. I have an East/South East facing window in my bathroom that works well. Water once a week. I've never done the ice cube thing, just throw water and throw them in the tub to drain. When they're in bloom, I move them to different spots in the house. After blooming, I do NOT cut the stem. I find sometimes it will send a new flower stem from a random location on the original stem, and bloom sooner. Sometimes it dies all the way back and I cut it then. I have 7 or 8 now, different varieties. They all seem to send up new stems in Fall and start blooming around February/March. They bloom will any where from 3 to 6 months. Be patient. They may do nothing for an entire year - I have some that didn't bloom for two years after I bought them. If they don't bloom after the second year I toss them. I've found some are just really prolific bloomers, and some aren't.
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2014 15:53:43 GMT
Thanks darcy Collins. The information is much appreciated. I hope my cutting the stem didn't kill my chances.
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Post by phoenixcov on Nov 9, 2014 15:58:20 GMT
My Orchid gets drowned and drained once a week. It doesn`t seem to know it`s winter and has another stem full of ready to open blooms. Lives all year round in the same spot in the bathroom. Will be chopped when it`s finished flowering.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 9, 2014 15:58:47 GMT
Thanks darcy Collins. The information is much appreciated. I hope my cutting the stem didn't kill my chances. It probably won't kill your chances. I spent a few years chopping the stems off as soon as they were done blooming. Usually it will send up a new stem, but again be patient as it can take quite some time. I actually discovered by laziness that sometimes it will send another flush of flowers. I hadn't yet cut off the stem, and noticed a few weeks to a month later it was budding off the uncut stem. Since then, I wait and see if it completely dies back - and probably half of the time that's what it does. As I said, I'm no expert. I pretty much ignore them and they do pretty darn well!
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2014 16:30:37 GMT
Thanks darcy Collins. The information is much appreciated. I hope my cutting the stem didn't kill my chances. It probably won't kill your chances. I spent a few years chopping the stems off as soon as they were done blooming. Usually it will send up a new stem, but again be patient as it can take quite some time. I actually discovered by laziness that sometimes it will send another flush of flowers. I hadn't yet cut off the stem, and noticed a few weeks to a month later it was budding off the uncut stem. Since then, I wait and see if it completely dies back - and probably half of the time that's what it does. As I said, I'm no expert. I pretty much ignore them and they do pretty darn well! That makes sense. Now I wish I had waited to cut it back! Thanks. I will try to learn patience.
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Post by M~ on Nov 9, 2014 16:31:47 GMT
Ummmmm...I'm no expert by any means, but I've been growing orchids for about 7+ years now. You probably have a phalaenopsis. The ice cube method will eventually kill it.  Phals have an on and off growing cycle, much like most plants. The stem is called a "spike" in orchid terms. I always cut it off as close to the base as possible. Growers have different prefrences regarding cutting back the spike. Some, like me, prefer to encourage the plant to rest so that the next blooming cycle can be stronger and produce more blooms. Besides, I have found that in some species and in some hybrids, leaving the spike encourages keikis, which is something I'm not interested in for various reasons. Some prefer to let the spike stay until it shrivels up on its own. This way you will probably get a secondary blooming cycle but it is usually (in my experience) not as robust as the first one. Like I said, I discourage keikis (unless it is a valuable plant, in which case I want keikis). As far as day to day care, Phals require lower light than, let's say Cattleyas. Most phals are hybridized to bloom as much as possible. Some tips re: day to day care: 1) DO NOT water down the crown. It will eventually rot the plant. 2) Water once like you really mean it (think jungle deluge) and DON'T touch it again until the potting medium is bone dry. If yours is in a pot, you can take a skewer and stick it gently inside. That way, you can periodically take the wood skewer out to gauge accurately when the inside of the potting medium is dry. Usually phals can take 1 to 2 weeks between waterings. 3) Fertilize with a well balanced orchid fertilizer. Ultra high nitrogen will induce leaf growth but no blooming. 4) I fertilize 3 weeks on 1 week off, meaning, I fertilize once x 3 times then the next watering I flush out the chemicals. 5) I use seaweed in liquid form to encourage root growth. Your phal should rest about 2-3 months. After which time, assuming it is healthy, it should develop a new leaf (or 2). The way you can tell that the plant is healthy is that each new leaf should be larger than the ones below. If it is not, then it is deficient in nutrients and/or is otherwise unhealthy. After it develops the leaf, then you should see the initiation of a spike. If you are into aesthetics at all, as soon as the spike is largish either 1) start turning the plant towards the direction of the sun so that the spike will grow in that direction, or 2) gently secure it to a skewer so that it will grow somewhat straight.
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Post by GiantsFan on Nov 9, 2014 16:33:21 GMT
Thanks for the Orchid info darcy Collins HIJACK => My orchids always bud again and again, but the buds fall off before blooming. Anyone know why?
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2014 16:41:31 GMT
Ummmmm...I'm no expert by any means, but I've been growing orchids for about 7+ years now. You probably have a phalaenopsis. The ice cube method will eventually kill it.  Phals have an on and off growing cycle, much like most plants. The stem is called a "spike" in orchid terms. I always cut it off as close to the base as possible. Growers have different prefrences regarding cutting back the spike. Some, like me, prefer to encourage the plant to rest so that the next blooming cycle can be stronger and produce more blooms. Besides, I have found that in some species and in some hybrids, leaving the spike encourages keikis, which is something I'm not interested in for various reasons. Some prefer to let the spike stay until it shrivels up on its own. This way you will probably get a secondary blooming cycle but it is usually (in my experience) not as robust as the first one. Like I said, I discourage keikis (unless it is a valuable plant, in which case I want keikis). As far as day to day care, Phals require lower light than, let's say Cattleyas. Most phals are hybridized to bloom as much as possible. Some tips re: day to day care: 1) DO NOT water down the crown. It will eventually rot the plant. 2) Water once like you really mean it (think jungle deluge) and DON'T touch it again until the potting medium is bone dry. If yours is in a pot, you can take a skewer and stick it gently inside. That way, you can periodically take the wood skewer out to gauge accurately when the inside of the potting medium is dry. Usually phals can take 1 to 2 weeks between waterings. 3) Fertilize with a well balanced orchid fertilizer. Ultra high nitrogen will induce leaf growth but no blooming. 4) I fertilize 3 weeks on 1 week off, meaning, I fertilize once x 3 times then the next watering I flush out the chemicals. 5) I use seaweed in liquid form to encourage root growth. Your phal should rest about 2-3 months. After which time, assuming it is healthy, it should develop a new leaf (or 2). The way you can tell that the plant is healthy is that each new leaf should be larger than the ones below. If it is not, then it is deficient in nutrients and/or is otherwise unhealthy. After it develops the leaf, then you should see the initiation of a spike. If you are into aesthetics at all, as soon as the spike is largish either 1) start turning the plant towards the direction of the sun so that the spike will grow in that direction, or 2) gently secure it to a skewer so that it will grow somewhat straight. Thanks for the info. I guess I will wait to find out how much I screwed this plant up.
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