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Post by tuva42 on Nov 9, 2014 19:19:14 GMT
I think the admin has the right to protect the board. If posts come close to violating the ToS then she is well within her rights to mark it as falling. We know from past history that actions against an individual poster can create even more drama. Better to just let the thread die. She doesn't owe us unlimited access to threads.
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Post by momof3pits on Nov 9, 2014 19:19:59 GMT
i personally think the consequences should have fallen on the racist who posted the offensive term... if we are going to stop threads from being bumped just b/c someone tattled about it... we're going to lose a lot of interesting and informative discussions. I agree. Is there a way to remove the offensive posts? I think that thread needs to be bumped so more people can participate in what I viewed as very thought provoking and respectful discourse. |
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Post by melanell on Nov 9, 2014 19:20:05 GMT
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Post by Kerri W on Nov 9, 2014 19:22:21 GMT
I appreciate admin doing what she feels is best for the board and don't disagree with the thread in question being sunk. I would like to see the offenders in this type of situation dealt with *as well.* Personally I feel that's why we had such a problem with trolls, alters, etc on the other board...there were no repercussions.
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Post by tduby1 on Nov 9, 2014 19:24:14 GMT
Thank you for the explanation, admin. I really wasn't trying to stir the pot, just was curious about why It no longer was bumping. I regret the use of the word censored.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 9, 2014 19:25:17 GMT
i personally think the consequences should have fallen on the racist who posted the offensive term... if we are going to stop threads from being bumped just b/c someone tattled about it... we're going to lose a lot of interesting and informative discussions. I agree. Is there a way to remove the offensive posts? I think that thread needs to be bumped so more people can participate in what I viewed as very thought provoking and respectful discourse. The problem is, that by the time admin was alerted, the offensive post was quote multiple times. I do think the thread was very interesting, but could see where it could spiral out of control quickly because it is a very sensitive issue with lots of viewpoints. |
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Post by momof3pits on Nov 9, 2014 19:27:24 GMT
I agree. Is there a way to remove the offensive posts? I think that thread needs to be bumped so more people can participate in what I viewed as very thought provoking and respectful discourse. The problem is, that by the time admin was alerted, the offensive post was quote multiple times. I do think the thread was very interesting, but could see where it could spiral out of control quickly because it is a very sensitive issue with lots of viewpoints. That's a fair point and the post was requoted many times. I in no way was criticizing admin, just think it's such a shame that one bad apple ruins a great topic. |
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Post by peasful1 on Nov 9, 2014 19:32:23 GMT
So all one needs to do is straddle the ToS in a thread to get it anchored without personal repercussion? Good to know!
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 9, 2014 19:33:39 GMT
So all one needs to do is straddle the ToS in a thread to get it anchored without personal repercussion? Good to know! Yes, that was completely the point.  |
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Post by admin on Nov 9, 2014 19:36:28 GMT
I appreciate admin doing what she feels is best for the board and don't disagree with the thread in question being sunk. I would like to see the offenders in this type of situation dealt with *as well.* Personally I feel that's why we had such a problem with trolls, alters, etc on the other board...there were no repercussions. There are several tools available to me to deal with 'offending' posters, and I will make use of those when I feel it is necessary. However, the details of what action has been taken against any particular individual are not something I will generally make public. |
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Post by gar on Nov 9, 2014 19:37:34 GMT
So all one needs to do is straddle the ToS in a thread to get it anchored without personal repercussion? Good to know! We don't know that Admin won't decide to follow through with the poster in question. |
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Post by Sam on Nov 9, 2014 19:37:49 GMT
So all one needs to do is straddle the ToS in a thread to get it anchored without personal repercussion? Good to know! Yes, that was completely the point. Of course, Admin could still get the old Ban-stick out and whack you over the head with it, so, yes, there can be personal repercussions!   |
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Post by momof3pits on Nov 9, 2014 19:37:56 GMT
So all one needs to do is straddle the ToS in a thread to get it anchored without personal repercussion? Good to know! Yes, that was completely the point. While I think it's clear peasful has some snark in her tone, I do think it's a good point. It felt like everyone else's responses were respectful and added to the discussion. One crap-tastic response, and the thread was sidelined, and it seems as though that poster faced no consequences. |
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 9, 2014 19:45:00 GMT
Yes, that was completely the point. While I think it's clear peasful has some snark in her tone, I do think it's a good point. It felt like everyone else's responses were respectful and added to the discussion. One crap-tastic response, and the thread was sidelined, and it seems as though that poster faced no consequences. We don't know what admin did or didn't do to the poster. Admin could have deleted the offending posts and all that quoted/discussed it, but really the peas would have brought it up again and they would have been up in arms about censorship. By anchoring it, had someone not had it opened and started this thread, most of us would have never known and it could have slipped quietly away. Admin, could the OP be reposted as a new thread so that the discussion could continue? |
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Post by admin on Nov 9, 2014 19:48:15 GMT
Hopefully my last post on this subject! In any particular case, the balance between removing offending posts (aka censorship) and helping a thread fade away quietly may go one way or the other, depending on the specific circumstances and my judgement at the time. It is fair to say that the more times such a post has been quoted or engaged with, the less likely I am to attempt to 'clean up' a thread. I'd also add that as this is the first time in 4 months that we've had this issue come up, I don't see it as being something that we as a whole need spend too much time worrying about |
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Post by anxiousmom on Nov 9, 2014 19:56:30 GMT
My personal opinion, should anyone but me care (LOL):
The thread falling option seems to be the best of all the choices. People can still participate a the thread should they feel inclined, and the thread remains as it is. No overt censorship, which as a general rule people aren't all that fond of.
In this case, more than one person reprimanded in a way the person who made the outrageous comment. In a way, the board "censored" itself.
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Post by redayh on Nov 9, 2014 19:59:25 GMT
My personal opinion, should anyone but me care (LOL): The thread falling option seems to be the best of all the choices. People can still participate a the thread should they feel inclined, and the thread remains as it is. No overt censorship, which as a general rule people aren't all that fond of. In this case, more than one person reprimanded in a way the person who made the outrageous comment. In a way, the board "censored" itself. I agree |
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Post by gar on Nov 9, 2014 20:00:29 GMT
Agree with the above.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 9, 2014 20:03:49 GMT
This is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations for the admin. It is clear the admin thinks about things thoughtfully and carefully. I think her decision was the best of all the crappy options she had.
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Post by tania7424 on Nov 9, 2014 20:07:25 GMT
I am the admin on another Proboard. If a post full out violates TOU, proboards themselves will delete it. They do have bots monitoring. And then admin gets a bright red angry pm from Proboards letting them know why and what was deleted and that if it continues the entire board will be deleted. Everyone agreed to it creating their account.
Falling post is an excellent way to moderate IMHO.
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Post by oaksong on Nov 9, 2014 20:08:16 GMT
i personally think the consequences should have fallen on the racist who posted the offensive term... if we are going to stop threads from being bumped just b/c someone tattled about it... we're going to lose a lot of interesting and informative discussions. IMO, the thread was offensive from the get-go, and was intentionally created as such. There was a lot of thoughtful discussion, but others took the opportunity to contribute to the inflammatory rhetoric. Nothing has been censored. I appreciate the fairness of Admin's response and think she is doing a fantastic job of monitoring the trolls. As entertaining as it was, do we really want a repeat of the sh*tstorm from the old board? |
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Post by tania7424 on Nov 9, 2014 20:08:16 GMT
For clarification, they delete the entire thread, not just the post.
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Post by Country Ham on Nov 9, 2014 20:09:20 GMT
I just read the other thread. I don't one thing racist. Not a thing.
ETA what offensive post? I must of misread something. I never saw offensive language.
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Post by admin on Nov 9, 2014 20:14:55 GMT
I am the admin on another Proboard. If a post full out violates TOU, proboards themselves will delete it. They do have bots monitoring. And then admin gets a bright red angry pm from Proboards letting them know why and what was deleted and that if it continues the entire board will be deleted. Everyone agreed to it creating their account. Falling post is an excellent way to moderate IMHO. Thank you, it's useful to hear the perspective of someone who has BTDT |
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Post by tania7424 on Nov 9, 2014 20:20:27 GMT
No problem. It's slightly shaming. It was a thread on best positions when trying to conceive that did it. One was a little too graphic
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 20:23:44 GMT
IMO, the thread was offensive from the get-go, and was intentionally created as such. This is what gets me. The topic was an interesting topic that was brought about by a book complete with research and data to back up the author's points. If you dare to talk about an uncomfortable position when it involves race, someone, somewhere will find it offensive. Reactions like that relate the idea that it's best to sweep it under the rug and don't talk about it. Don't explore it looking for the truth, just pretend it doesn't exist because someone might be offended and label you a racist. |
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Post by Olan on Nov 9, 2014 20:34:16 GMT
I just read the other thread. I don't one thing racist. Not a thing. ETA what offensive post? I must of misread something. I never saw offensive language. Have you read the entire thread? |
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Post by Country Ham on Nov 9, 2014 20:35:25 GMT
The one about the book? Yes, and I did a search for the N word in case that's what I was missing and nothing came up.
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Post by momof3pits on Nov 9, 2014 20:38:45 GMT
I just read the other thread. I don't one thing racist. Not a thing. ETA what offensive post? I must of misread something. I never saw offensive language. Have you read the entire thread? She can't have read the entire thread and still be asking that. The offensive post was copied and called out several times. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2014 20:40:11 GMT
In polite society, Countryham, it's offensive to call an African American person "colored." Maybe you missed that post and the many times it was quoted.
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