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Post by pinklady on Dec 10, 2020 23:13:49 GMT
I am currently using my stash of PTI Stamper's Select White Cardstock for my card bases and I'm going to run out soon. I love that it's so heavy. I really really do not want to order from PTI, so can you recommend an equivalent cardstock?
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Post by FurryP on Dec 10, 2020 23:34:46 GMT
I can't recommend equivalent because I have never tried PTI but I got 110 lb Neenah cardstock at Joann.com. The paper is 50% off often enough. Sometimes if you get lucky the shipping is free or discounted also.
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Post by azcrafty on Dec 11, 2020 1:47:51 GMT
I get mine at Micheal's the 110lb ones usually they go on sale $9 / 100 sheets.
They have colored ones too if you want to try them.
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Post by joblackford on Dec 11, 2020 2:18:06 GMT
Reams of Neenah 110lb (297 gsm) from amazon are my go to. The model number 04456 smooth is good. I don't know how it compares to PTI but it's very heavy and sturdy, perfect for card bases. I order from amazon because shipping costs are painful anywhere else.
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Post by GiantsFan on Dec 11, 2020 15:51:17 GMT
Both of mine go to's are already mentioned => Recollections brand 110lbs from Michael's and Neenah 044565 from Amazon or Joanne.
If you go with the Recollections, beware it's hair bigger than 8.5 x 11 so you'll need to do a tiny bit of trimming. And it's not quite white white like the Neenah, but anyone other than an OCD crafter like me wouldn't notice.
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Post by cbet on Dec 11, 2020 18:23:32 GMT
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Post by don on Dec 11, 2020 18:34:01 GMT
I noticed Amazon claims a ream is 150 sheets. I think I remember a ream as 500 sheets.
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Post by cbet on Dec 11, 2020 21:19:13 GMT
I noticed Amazon claims a ream is 150 sheets. I think I remember a ream as 500 sheets. I think it depends on the weight of the paper  Our reams of copy paper at work is still 500 sheets, but the ream of 250 cardstock is about the same size. |
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Post by don on Dec 12, 2020 0:56:21 GMT
The weight of paper is determined by the weight of the parent sheet. A stack of 500 parent sheets determines the paper weight. If a stack weighs 24 lbs then each cut piece from the stack is 24 lbs, no mater the size of the paper. A ream used to be 460 sheets, was changed to 500 sheets. Ream refers to quantity not packaging.
Parent sheets come in several sizes, dependent on the size of the machine used to make the paper, basically 24" X 48".
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Post by FurryP on Dec 13, 2020 1:49:20 GMT
And it's not quite white white like the Neenah, but anyone other than an OCD crafter like me wouldn't notice. I can confirm this OP. The people I send my cards to would not even notice AT ALL. Perfectly acceptable if. you want a local source. |
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Post by kkrenn on Dec 13, 2020 20:48:57 GMT
This post couldn't have come at a better time! I have always used Stampin Up's Whisper White Thick cardstock for bases but as of last week won't be able to once my stash is gone. The company that made it for SU closed permanently due to Covid.
Off to check Amazon!
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Post by anniefb on Dec 15, 2020 18:05:46 GMT
I use both PTI cardstock and also Neenah Solar White 110lb. However, I've also found a cheaper alternative in one of our big box stationery stores that I use as well, particularly when I'm making a larger number of cards like at Christmas. Unless someone is a cardmaker, I don't think most people would notice the cardstock being used.
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Post by don on Dec 16, 2020 2:16:26 GMT
I use both PTI cardstock and also Neenah Solar White 110lb. However, I've also found a cheaper alternative in one of our big box stationery stores that I use as well, particularly when I'm making a larger number of cards like at Christmas. Unless someone is a cardmaker, I don't think most people would notice the cardstock being used. If they are a cardmaker, they would be so happy to get the card, they wouldn't care what cardstock was used. They'll be more interested in how it was made so they can copy it. I always score properly so the fold doesn't break. |
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Post by amyl on Dec 25, 2020 19:08:05 GMT
I love the Neenah 110# also. I order by the ream from amazon unless I can catch free shipping from Joann. I love the feel, white-ness and weight. M
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Post by scrappermcg on Dec 25, 2020 21:48:37 GMT
I use Cougar for real bright white and Neenah and Gina K.
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Post by cardsbycara on Dec 26, 2020 4:58:48 GMT
I love a heavy hiqh quality card base so use 110lb Neenah solar white as my standard go to. I would be curious if anyone has tried the cheaper version Jennifer McGuire recommended in a recent video.
Accent Opaque White
120lb
325gsm
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Post by marg on Dec 27, 2020 15:19:00 GMT
I would be curious if anyone has tried the cheaper version Jennifer McGuire recommended in a recent video. Accent Opaque White 120lb 325gsm has used it - her comment is higher up in this thread, with a link to the card stock. |
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Post by cardsbycara on Dec 27, 2020 18:27:03 GMT
I would be curious if anyone has tried the cheaper version Jennifer McGuire recommended in a recent video. Accent Opaque White 120lb 325gsm has used it - her comment is higher up in this thread, with a link to the card stock. Ooh,thank you! Must've missed that. Some of the reviews on Amazon say that it cracks, depending on which way the fold is, even with scoring. cbet Have you compared it to Neenah? |
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Post by cbet on Dec 27, 2020 20:07:44 GMT
I've never tried the neenah. I've not had any problems with the accent opaque cracking, but I use a scoreboard and go over it a couple of times. I first heard of it in a youtube by Mary Polanco and I was quite happy with it.
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Post by cardsbycara on Dec 27, 2020 20:38:07 GMT
I've never tried the neenah. I've not had any problems with the accent opaque cracking, but I use a scoreboard and go over it a couple of times. I first heard of it in a youtube by Mary Polanco and I was quite happy with it. Good to hear from a more trusted Pea source! 😉 And thank you for the quick reply. These were the Amazon reviews that made me wary of ordering some: ******* Cracks when folded March 3, 2019 Nice paper. Too thick for my laser printer tho. That’s fine, i would trace out printable instead and use for cards and other scrapbooking crafts. Absolutely terrible when you fold. Cracks something fierce, even on scored lines. Would not recommend for any kind of crafting that invovles folding. Was quite disappointed considering other comments said it was great for crafting. ******** Acceptable cover stock but note that it is GRAIN LONG! September 8, 2020 For making cards, softcover books or other items that require folding, my beef with the company is that you only find out it is sold GRAIN LONG after you get it. What this means is that if you are folding against the grain, which in most cases you will, then if you don't score the paper first, you will get bad cracking. You will still get some cracking even if you score it, but it may or may not be a problem for you. If the paper is 81/2 x 11 and grain long, it means that the grain runs parallel to the longest side (11), which would make a very narrow card if folded that way. Not particularly useful! It's critical to know the grain direction when using machine made paper. I wish these companies would put the grain direction along with the GSM in their adverts - it would making buying so much easier. For that reason, I am not giving 5 stars. Otherwise, the finish and weight are just what I wanted. |
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Post by lydiae on Dec 27, 2020 21:22:06 GMT
Hmm. I'm going too have to take a closer look at the Accent I bought. I know if you look up the Mary Polanco video she did a very thorough comparison of it vs Neenah and Recollections. I remember she was surprised how many of the papers cracked if folded without scoring. (I really recommend the video because she did everything on camera, folding, scoring, inking ect, side by side. I love videos done that way)
I need to make a bunch of card bases so I'll try and remember to check. I'm not sure how closely I was looking when I first used it. (Honestly, I was using a super cheap cardstock before that so I was just really excited too bee using the "good stuff")
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Post by cbet on Dec 27, 2020 23:47:22 GMT
I don't know if it matters, but I don't score with the tools most scoreboards come with - I use an embossing stylus. The rounded ball might make it less likely to crack than the bone folder type tools. I also like Gina K's heavy base weight cardstock, and I've seen people complain that hers cracks, too, when I've never had a problem with it.
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Post by cardsbycara on Dec 28, 2020 0:18:11 GMT
I don't know if it matters, but I don't score with the tools most scoreboards come with - I use an embossing stylus. The rounded ball might make it less likely to crack than the bone folder type tools. I also like Gina K's heavy base weight cardstock, and I've seen people complain that hers cracks, too, when I've never had a problem with it. Yes, I love my MS scoreboard but use an old Fiskars double ended embossing stylus too. It works every time, even with super heavyweight cs like GK that you were mentioning. You're right; maybe that's why those Amazon reviews talked about the Accent cracking... 🧐🤔😏 |
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Post by lydiae on Dec 28, 2020 0:20:27 GMT
I don't know if it matters, but I don't score with the tools most scoreboards come with - I use an embossing stylus. The rounded ball might make it less likely to crack than the bone folder type tools. I also like Gina K's heavy base weight cardstock, and I've seen people complain that hers cracks, too, when I've never had a problem with it. I'm going to give that a try! I've learned that the kinds of bone folder matters. I tried to be cheap and ordered a random one and I can just barely feel there rough spots it has that the one that came with my score board doesn't have. 🙄 It's on my list to get a better quality one. |
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Post by craftgranny on Jan 25, 2021 18:34:57 GMT
I don't know if it matters, but I don't score with the tools most scoreboards come with - I use an embossing stylus. The rounded ball might make it less likely to crack than the bone folder type tools. I also like Gina K's heavy base weight cardstock, and I've seen people complain that hers cracks, too, when I've never had a problem with it. I have a MS scoreboard but your a stylus pen to score. I find it works better with the heavier cardstock. As far as cardstock base, I use the Neenah Solar Crest #110 pound. NOT THE INDEX. That is like an index card. It works well for card bases, die cutting and even using inks and paints. |
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Post by Restless Spirit on Oct 3, 2021 19:43:57 GMT
Bumping an older thread to see if everyone is still liking the Neenah #04456 cardstock for white card bases.
I’d really like super bright, smooth, heavy weight card stock that could possibly be used for both bases and a top layer that would be embossed. Michaels recollection brand may be a less expensive alternative because the Neenah seems rather pricey. Did I miss the card weight for the Michaels cardstock? If I could find a cardstock that would also go through my printers that would be nice. Both my laser and a jet printers are older and don’t handle super heavy card stock very well.
Updates and ideas welcome!
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Post by joblackford on Oct 3, 2021 23:54:44 GMT
Bumping an older thread to see if everyone is still liking the Neenah #04456 cardstock for white card bases. I’d really like super bright, smooth, heavy weight card stock that could possibly be used for both bases and a top layer that would be embossed. Michaels recollection brand may be a less expensive alternative because the Neenah seems rather pricey. Did I miss the card weight for the Michaels cardstock? If I could find a cardstock that would also go through my printers that would be nice. Both my laser and a jet printers are older and don’t handle super heavy card stock very well. Updates and ideas welcome! I use 04456 for bases when I can't get the super smooth or if the price is better. I find it's great for bases but I usually use 80lb for the elements on top. I usually use the 80lb Neenah for everything except the bases of cards I sell - I want those to be heavy weight and quality. For cards I donate I often use 80lb for the bases as long as I'm not doing anything too layered/heavy on the front. Pretty sure I only use 80lb in my printer and for embossing. |
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Post by melanieg on Oct 4, 2021 17:47:50 GMT
I use the CTMH cardbases. I buy them when they are on sale (a few times a year).
When im out of those, i use the Recollection 110lb white cardstock from Michaels.
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Post by gramma on Oct 5, 2021 14:36:16 GMT
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Post by kitbop on Oct 7, 2021 2:12:22 GMT
I am a huge fan of the Accent Opaque 120lb cardstock from Amazon. Even Jennifer McGuire is using it for her card bases now. So economical, white, smooth, beautiful. The only thing I don't prefer it for is die cutting intricate shapes because it's so thick it can be more challenging to get through! I've had no issues with cracking when I score/fold. Although I do 90% of time do a side folding card - I understand that the grain of the paper can affect cracking?
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Our reams of copy paper at work is still 500 sheets, but the ream of 250 cardstock is about the same size.
