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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 6:23:21 GMT
I think once the company is sentenced, you will get some relief. I remember waiting until my sister passed away and every single day was like "is it going to be today? not yet? tomorrow? Nope another week?" and while the situation is totally different the anxiety you are feeling is probably similar. It is a horrible feeling in your heart. The anger is so powerful.
There aren't perfect words for me to say. I do hear your pain. I want to scream and yell and punch the punching bag at the gym for you until it breaks. Scream the worst words I can think of and maybe that will take some of the pain away.
But I promise, in time, you will feel the light in your heart again. You will remember your brother's smile or voice again and it will make you feel warm inside. There is no magic timeline though how long this will take. Maybe another week or month or a year. I don't want to make you a promise and then have you say "but she said..." Grief is grief and it heals at its own pace. As Lucy suggested a grief support group might be good for you. There will be others there who will understand what you are going through, the stages of grief and how you can deal with it. It's just a suggestion, not a "YOU SHOULD" or anything like that. Just a mere suggestion.
I am hoping you will feel better soon though. I didn't believe I would ever feel whole again. I wanted my grief to be over and done with in 3 days after the fact. I couldn't believe when someone said it would "take time".
Do something nice for yourself. Buy yourself a nice new pillow or a new pair of jeans or something special to make you feel good. (I suggest pillow because I love the feeling of a cold pillow against my head at night). You don't need to spend a fortune on this (I mean you can if you want...) but something you can afford that will make you feel good. Anything to get through this rough spot.
Hugs and I do mean it.
Elannah
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Post by patin on Nov 10, 2014 7:19:58 GMT
1st off- I am so terribly sad for you& your mom. This is terrible. my heart hurts for you . Although my DH didn't pass away, he was injured in an industrial accident & the co did everything they could do to distance themselves from the blame/negligence. We faced years of them denying medical claims & responsibility. If I hadn't had a good job & tons of equity in our home we would have been bankrupt. They finally settled , but basically we covered expenses & my DH can never work again. He is a brave man-my Hero & always relies on our faith in God. Me? I finally forgave. I couldn't/ wouldn't let the bitterness win. I pray that they will acknowledge their negligence and that the courts will find in your favor & there will be no appeal. Your brother sounds like he was a wonderful guy. Again, I am so sorry.
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Post by polz on Nov 10, 2014 7:54:15 GMT
Thank you everyone for all your kind thoughts. It's been an exhausting six weeks of the court process. It's been an exhausting three years and has taken a huge physical and emotional toll on our family. I personally am fat as all heck and even though I know in my brain that eating my pain is not helpful, I do it anyway. Other people are depressed, insomniac, alcoholics and drug addicts. My Dad has aged 20 years in just 3. One of my siblings has broken up with her SO after 16 years. The stress is hell. Would someone saying I'm sorry really help? I would try to come to terms with it by not expecting or wanting anyone to do anything to you. It won't help. Grief just has to run its course. For me it would. I can't explain how much it hurts to hear Sonny referred to as 'the deceased'. We called him Songee. To the lawyers, he is 'the deceased'. Why can't the CEO acknowledge that a dearly loved family member is gone thru criminal negligence? I guess how there are five languages of love, maybe there are grief languages? I don't want money. I don't want people to go to jail (although, I have thoughts of punching some people in the face sometimes). I don't want companies to go bankrupt. Other families rely on jobs with these companies for their livelihood. I want a meaningful apology and steps to be taken so no other family ever have to go thru this. Maybe it would not help you, but it would help me. I know you have heard this, but really, I think you need professional counseling. You'll never "get over" your loss. No one would. But, a grief therapist can help you process your feelings. My dear DIL lost her mother in an accident. The therapist helped her tremendously. She still grieves, but can handle it much better. Hugs and prayers to you for peace and comfort. I have been to counselling. I actually have good days. Just today, is a bad day. I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my brother eight months ago and I understand when you say you "just want him back." (((HUGS))) Sending hugs to you :-) I am sorry for your loss. I do know how you feel. My brother was killed ten years ago. I haven't experienced closure. And sometimes I feel like I did that first day. There are days that I don't think I can go on but I don't have a choice. I don't feel there is a time limit for healing. Healing will come when YOU are ready. Thank you for sharing that. *hugs*
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Post by gar on Nov 10, 2014 9:31:05 GMT
Big hugs for you Polz ((((hugs))))
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Post by M in Carolina on Nov 10, 2014 9:47:23 GMT
I'm so sorry Poltz. Losing a loved one is a traumatic enough of an experience without having to deal with incompetence and then blame pointing and weaseling out of taking responsibility. I understand how you'd feel that you'd just like someone from the company to just say they're sorry. It won't happen again. They've got a new safety system and no one else will ever die that way.
Sadly lawyers tell companies not to apologise or contact the families as these actions could show that the company is saying they're at fault. Doctors here do that all the time, too. No apologies.
(The surgeon that took out my gallbladder cut an accessory bile duct, and I had bile leaking into my abdomen and then got chronic pancreatitis--my bile duct system is too small anyway, I'm lucky to be alive. My surgeon explained why he didn't open me completely up--which I am so glad he didn't--and really wanted to know what happened. He wasn't negligent, but scar tissue had covered the extra ducts which got cut. The reason my gallbladder was about to rupture is that I delayed the surgery to finish a school semester. I really appreciated this surgeon's demeanor and wanting to know exactly what happened so he could prevent it. I finally went to the Mayo Clinic, where they diagnosed me. I told the surgeon exactly how everything had lined up to happen the way it did. I ran into him the next year, and he excitedly told me how thankful he was that I shared my Mayo Clinic results with him. He'd had another young woman like me with the same presentation, and he knew to look for those ducts--she was saved all the pain and complications I had. That meant more to me than taking him to court would have.)
Now you just have to take care of you. Be gentle on yourself. Don't beat yourself up about your weight--you've been through a lot of stress. Relax and treat yourself better. You could use any money for a great trip and to do some cool things your brother would have loved.
It turned out after my dad died, that his wife was waiting for him to die so she could sell his business and get remarried. It's been 3 years, and the estate still isn't settled. I just don't even think of her. She's not worth my rage. Bitterness is like taking poison hoping the other person will die. You just hurt yourself. I know it's difficult to think this way, but you'll be a lot happier in the long run--and isn't that what your brother would want for you and your family?
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 10, 2014 11:48:24 GMT
I am so sorry xx
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Post by peabay on Nov 10, 2014 11:49:34 GMT
That's just tragic. I'm so sorry this happened.
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Post by karenlou on Nov 10, 2014 12:12:08 GMT
So sorry 
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Post by eastcoastpea on Nov 10, 2014 12:26:40 GMT
I am sorry you and your family are in such pain. Sending hugs your way.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 10, 2014 12:32:33 GMT
I am so, so sorry for your loss. I feel the pain in your words. I cannot imagine losing someone so tragically. Your mother's words in the article are heartbreaking.
I lost someone close to me, and put a lot of my energy into proving the fault. Things like contacting investigators and medical examiners for second autopsies. I was stressed, anxious, couldn't sleep, and felt like a gray cloud was hanging over me. Then one day, I just stopped. I realized no matter how much of my life I put into it, it wouldn't bring them back. It wasn't until I let go of everything that I began to truly heal. I guess what I'm trying to say is, consider letting the trial and the outcome go. Not depending on the trial for closure may bring you a lot of peace.
It sounds like you have a long road to travel as the trial continues. I can only imagine. You and you're family are in my prayers.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Nov 10, 2014 12:42:18 GMT
How unbelievably awful for you and your family. I will be thinking of you on the 19th, hoping there will be no appeal and that you can work towards closure. Wishing you strength now and peace soon.
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Post by Gravity on Nov 10, 2014 12:49:35 GMT
I am so sorry. ((Hugs)) to you and your family.
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Post by auntkelly on Nov 10, 2014 12:49:56 GMT
I am very sorry for your loss. Your brother was so young and his death was so tragic and preventable. I think it's understandable that you are having a hard time coping. I will say prayers for you and your mom.
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on Nov 10, 2014 14:29:41 GMT
Sorry for your loss.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Nov 10, 2014 14:46:29 GMT
I'm so sorry about your brother Polz. ((hugs))
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Post by akathy on Nov 10, 2014 14:55:09 GMT
I am so sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 14:55:42 GMT
I'm so sorry for your loss and for your family's suffering.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 14:58:55 GMT
I am so sorry.
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Post by 1lear on Nov 10, 2014 15:12:37 GMT
I'm so sorry-what a horrible thing to happen.
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Post by BeckyTech on Nov 10, 2014 15:14:14 GMT
What a tragic loss you and your family have suffered. Sending you hugs and prayers for healing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 15:46:52 GMT
I'm very sorry for your loss. :-(
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Post by jenjie on Nov 10, 2014 16:28:49 GMT
Pretty in peank I "liked" your comment because you shared words of wisdom straight from your heart and experience. But please let me add that I'm sorry for your loss as well.
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Nov 10, 2014 16:37:29 GMT
I am so sorry for your loss. I don't think grief ever "runs its course" because I think that the loss of a loved one stays with you forever, however there can be healing and hope and it will not be such a fresh wound. As long as you live, there will be memories of your brother, but I hope that in time you will find comfort and peace from the good memories and love that you shared.
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Post by 1girlygirl on Nov 10, 2014 16:38:51 GMT
I'm so sorry for the tragic loss of your beloved brother. Allow yourself to grieve without boundaries or someone else's timeline. Hugs to you and your family.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 10, 2014 17:00:06 GMT
I am so sorry for you loss and hope there is no appeal to the court decision.
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Post by calgal08 on Nov 10, 2014 17:01:38 GMT
I don't feel there is a time limit for healing. Healing will come when YOU are ready.
So very true. Don't beat yourself up about it. Only you will know when your mind is at peace.
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Post by I-95 on Nov 10, 2014 17:22:42 GMT
Oh, Kiwi, I'm so sorry for your loss. I was a little confused by the article, or maybe didn't read it clearly, but is that a civil suit that's going on right now? Is this taking place in NZ or OZ?
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Post by polz on Nov 10, 2014 17:49:42 GMT
Bitterness is like taking poison hoping the other person will die. You just hurt yourself. I know it's difficult to think this way, but you'll be a lot happier in the long run--and isn't that what your brother would want for you and your family? Wow. This really resonated with me. Thank you for sharing this. And Pretty in Peank, I'm sorry for your loss.
Oh, Kiwi, I'm so sorry for your loss. I was a little confused by the article, or maybe didn't read it clearly, but is that a civil suit that's going on right now? Is this taking place in NZ or OZ? The court case is in Australia. Civil suit comes next (if we want to go there).
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Post by I-95 on Nov 10, 2014 17:51:42 GMT
Go there! They're never going to apologize, so hit them where it hurts most, in their pocketbook!
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 10, 2014 21:04:47 GMT
I'm sorry about your brother, I didn't know the story. I agree with you, "accident" is not the word to use in a case like this. It was negligence, pure and simple, no accidental about it.
I have a friend who used to train riggers and worked very closely with WorkSafe Australia, he would be horrified at this.
I hope you get a good outcome and get some sort of relief from your grief.
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