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Post by longtimenopea on Dec 16, 2020 20:41:15 GMT
MAY 2021 UPDATE: well, it got worse. He threatened me one night with a crowbar, and started video recording me inside my house through my windows. My good graces ran out and I got a restraining order and he has moved out. I tried for so long to be a good neighbor and not a giant bitch. I ended up having to press charges. If you said I needed to take action you were right!
UPDATE: this guy has gone off the deep end now.
He has begun to pound on the shared wall (these are townhouses) at varying times of day and night. Usually we are in bed when he does it. The other day I was vacuuming (at 11:30am). One time my husband was home alone playing video games in the basement (using headphones) while I was taking my kid to get her computer upgraded at school.
He has filed daily complaints with the HOA about noise and has started to harass us through the landlord by having the landlord text us every time the tenant perceives noise in our house - day or night. He says we are slamming dresser drawers and causing reverb in his bedroom. But his bedroom is not even part of the attached wall (we were friends with the previous tenant and have been inside) and all our dressers are on interior walls, our TV too. Now he says he is going to file a fair housing complaint because we are discriminating against him because he is Asian and trying to force him out of his rental.
Meanwhile he got into an altercation with another person down the street that resulted in the police being called. I overheard the report being taken and apparently he went up to her and started an argument with her over a pest control company doing work in her house (the pest control van was parked in a no parking area but was not blocking anything).
Then the other day he was walking into his house and I happened to be at my door trying to figure out if recycling had been picked up yet, and he stared me down and made this “wanna fight” gesture. I just went inside and didn’t say anything.
I think I understand him a little bit more now and we are just going to go about our business and ignore him. He is trying to start trouble and I’m not here for it.
ORIGINAL POST:
I live in a small house in a row of small houses on tiny tiny lots, with detached garages and common parking. I have lived in this house for many years. I live in a small city near a big city in a very densely populated area.
Recently a new tenant moved into the place next door. He has several cameras on his property, which of course is his right to do so. However, he becomes very upset if people cross his front yard to access mine. It is a shortcut from the parking area but in our household we do not cross the yards because we have a sidewalk and that’s what the sidewalk is for - I can verify that my own spouse and children use the sidewalk and have spoken to them about this problem. We have no visitors ever due to the pandemic.
Recently he reported us for trespassing. The evidence he provided was a series of screen caps from his camera system. None of the people were us or anyone we knew. One was an amazon delivery guy, one appeared to be landscaping (our cluster has shared landscaping services), two appeared to be standing on his sidewalk looking at his door and not crossing into the yard, and one was an unknown person who may have been leaving a flyer as we receive many of those. But none of them were me, my family, or anyone we know.
I placed some cord along the property line. I assume people will ignore it and step over it. We can’t fence the front due to zoning. I suggested he put up a “stay off the grass” sign on his side. Otherwise these are not our guests and they aren’t people we have any control over. Yet he continues to file reports that we are trespassing. We don’t believe there is any valid criminal complaint but it becomes tiresome, and I worry about legal problems no matter how invalid, because my spouse and I both have jobs that involve background checks of differing types.
What would you do?
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Post by scorpeao on Dec 16, 2020 20:42:58 GMT
I'd file a harassment complaint. If it's not you, your family or friends he needs to leave you alone.
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Post by femalebusiness on Dec 16, 2020 20:46:21 GMT
I'd ignore him. He sounds like he has one wheel stuck in the sand. You are under no obligation to acknowledge him. Responding/interacting with him will only escalate.
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Post by elaine on Dec 16, 2020 20:46:48 GMT
I live in a small house in a row of small houses on tiny tiny lots, with detached garages and common parking. I have lived in this house for many years. I live in a small city near a big city in a very densely populated area. Recently a new tenant moved into the place next door. He has several cameras on his property, which of course is his right to do so. However, he becomes very upset if people cross his front yard to access mine. It is a shortcut from the parking area but in our household we do not cross the yards because we have a sidewalk and that’s what the sidewalk is for - I can verify that my own spouse and children use the sidewalk and have spoken to them about this problem. We have no visitors ever due to the pandemic. Recently he reported us for trespassing. The evidence he provided was a series of screen caps from his camera system. None of the people were us or anyone we knew. One was an amazon delivery guy, one appeared to be landscaping (our cluster has shared landscaping services), two appeared to be standing on his sidewalk looking at his door and not crossing into the yard, and one was an unknown person who may have been leaving a flyer as we receive many of those. But none of them were me, my family, or anyone we know. I placed some cord along the property line. I assume people will ignore it and step over it. We can’t fence the front due to zoning. I suggested he put up a “stay off the grass” sign on his side. Otherwise these are not our guests and they aren’t people we have any control over. Yet he continues to file reports that we are trespassing. We don’t believe there is any valid criminal complaint but it becomes tiresome, and I worry about legal problems no matter how invalid, because my spouse and I both have jobs that involve background checks of differing types. What would you do? Put cameras on your property and report him for trespassing every time someone crosses your yard towards his place or stands on your sidewalk. That’s all I’ve got, unless you check with a lawyer about whether this qualifies as harassment and ask him/her to write a cease and desist letter on your behalf. |
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Dec 16, 2020 20:47:24 GMT
Have you tried talking to him? Let him know those photos are not of you?
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Post by leeny on Dec 16, 2020 20:49:48 GMT
Who did he report you to? Perhaps that person can review the camera shots he showed you and they won't need to follow up because it's a big nothing.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Dec 16, 2020 20:53:45 GMT
Who is he reporting you to? The police? If so, let him keep filing his moronic reports.
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Post by librarylady on Dec 16, 2020 20:53:46 GMT
Is he filing with HOA? Or police?
Either way, one time of defending yourself and your family should have handled it.
If he continues, I would speak to him and then find out if there are further steps to stop his harassment.
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Post by smartypants71 on Dec 16, 2020 21:07:48 GMT
Reported to who? I would ignore him. If it's not you or anyone in your family, then you have nothing to worry about.
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Post by MichyM on Dec 16, 2020 21:17:48 GMT
I agree that knowing who he reported you to would be helpful to know. If I was in your shoes, I'd simply go knock on his door and speak with him. I am constantly astounded by how many of the peas (not picking on you at ALL OP) don't speak face to face with the neighbors about bothersome things...that also includes some members of my own condo association. It's very easy to have a civil, unheated conversation (rather than confrontation) about issues.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Dec 16, 2020 21:24:45 GMT
Well, the cameras put a kibosh on my flaming bag of dog poop suggestion so I've got nothing.
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Post by longtimenopea on Dec 16, 2020 21:46:43 GMT
Is he filing with HOA? Or police? Either way, one time of defending yourself and your family should have handled it. If he continues, I would speak to him and then find out if there are further steps to stop his harassment. HOA and police both. I received notification from each. I would be happy to talk to him, but it’s like he barely exists. I can see his car twenty feet from my front door but I never ever see this guy. I haven’t seen or heard a thing from his house in two weeks. Last time we saw him was on Thanksgiving day, and this all happened since then. My husband knocked on his door but he didn’t answer. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 16, 2020 21:52:01 GMT
It should be simple to clear up. If the “evidence” is not you, then the police will inform him that it’s not you.
Write a letter to your HOA stating the same, snd that due to this you are feeling harassed.
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Post by Really Red on Dec 16, 2020 21:54:20 GMT
I'd file a harassment complaint. If it's not you, your family or friends he needs to leave you alone. He also sounds this side of crazy. I'd be careful. |
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Post by lazorkay on Dec 16, 2020 22:00:32 GMT
I would call up the HOA and let them know that you nor your family were in any of those photos he had. Then contact the police.
This is getting on the harassment side of things, and maybe you should also file charges against him with the HOA and police as well.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 16, 2020 22:03:42 GMT
My DH’s job requires an in-depth background investigation.
If there’s a police report, you will have to disclose it on your next background check. I would ask for still photos of what he is reporting as someone from your household. I would also ask that the police add a written statement from you to their report saying it is not you or a family member in the photos. If questioned about it in your background investigation, I would simply state your position as a matter of fact, that the police investigated, and it was found to be someone else. I’d only say a sentence or two and then leave it be.
If he accuses you again, wash, rinse and repeat. Protect yourself and get copies of the police report. But after a second time, I would get a cease and desist letter from a lawyer and I’d probably talk to the police about your rights. Even if you did it, you aren’t going to lose your security clearance because you cut the corner of a sidewalk. You just need to prove you followed up on it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 22:07:58 GMT
You said tenant. Can you take it up with his landlord?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 22:33:05 GMT
Can you plant shrubbery along the property line?
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Post by longtimenopea on Jan 3, 2021 17:21:28 GMT
Update in OP. We suspect he is trying to start trouble now.
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Post by Baseballmom23 on Jan 3, 2021 17:33:41 GMT
Update in OP. We suspect he is trying to start trouble now. Do you think he is mentally ill? How old is he? We had a situation in my city were a mentally ill man was living in his parents house but the parents moved 60 miles away because they couldn't handle him. He started causing issues with the neighbors. |
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Post by gizzy on Jan 3, 2021 17:34:34 GMT
What do the landlord, HOA, and police say to do?
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jan 3, 2021 17:41:11 GMT
Update in OP. We suspect he is trying to start trouble now. Do you think he is mentally ill? How old is he? We had a situation in my city were a mentally ill man was living in his parents house but the parents moved 60 miles away because they couldn't handle him. He started causing issues with the neighbors. This. We had a tenant in the rent house next to us who was schizophrenic and stopped taking his meds. I could tell you some stories, but he definitely was hearing and seeing things that weren't there that he thought we were doing |
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Post by longtimenopea on Jan 3, 2021 17:44:17 GMT
What do the landlord, HOA, and police say to do? The landlord is being a little wishy washy and declined every suggestion I had to figure out what noise the tenant thinks he’s hearing. The HOA says to go about our business because we are clearly not doing anything wrong. They consulted with their counsel on this as well. The police say to document and avoid him, and to not speak to him at all even if he approaches us. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 3, 2021 17:45:45 GMT
You need to start filing counter complaints and harassment complaints.
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Post by longtimenopea on Jan 3, 2021 17:48:39 GMT
Update in OP. We suspect he is trying to start trouble now. Do you think he is mentally ill? How old is he? We had a situation in my city were a mentally ill man was living in his parents house but the parents moved 60 miles away because they couldn't handle him. He started causing issues with the neighbors. I would guess late 20s? He is much younger than our family and it seems odd that he would target some boring old people who go to bed at 9:30 pm. I think this situation has a lot of indications of mental illness - I am at a loss as to how to respond if that’s the case. I don’t want him to get evicted or anything, I mostly just want him to leave us alone - we have lived here a long time with very few problems - the usual close quarters stuff like barking dogs is all. |
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Post by Really Red on Jan 3, 2021 18:20:21 GMT
I'm not sure why you don't want him evicted. He sounds like a lot of trouble. He is the one causing all of it, as well. It sounds like you've contacted the police, so I'm not sure what else you can do. I'd make sure I had a lot of cameras pointed at his house.
I'm sorry you're going through this.
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Post by longtimenopea on Jan 3, 2021 18:33:18 GMT
I'm not sure why you don't want him evicted. He sounds like a lot of trouble. He is the one causing all of it, as well. It sounds like you've contacted the police, so I'm not sure what else you can do. I'd make sure I had a lot of cameras pointed at his house. I'm sorry you're going through this. i realy don’t want him evicted. The rental market here is so difficult even when it’s not a pandemic - I would hate to see someone put out during these times because it is so hard to find a decent place that’s affordable. It would be much better if he could just get it together and live in his house like a normal person without causing a bunch of trouble for everybody around him. |
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Post by christine58 on Jan 3, 2021 18:34:36 GMT
I'm not sure why you don't want him evicted. He sounds like a lot of trouble. He is the one causing all of it, as well. It sounds like you've contacted the police, so I'm not sure what else you can do. I'd make sure I had a lot of cameras pointed at his house. I'm sorry you're going through this. i realy don’t want him evicted. The rental market here is so difficult even when it’s not a pandemic - I would hate to see someone put out during these times because it is so hard to find a decent place that’s affordable. It would be much better if he could just get it together and live in his house like a normal person without causing a bunch of trouble for everybody around him. Your HOA etc needs to put him in his place or evict him. You don't deserve to live in fear/frustration. His problem if he gets evicted. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 3, 2021 18:37:27 GMT
I'm not sure why you don't want him evicted. He sounds like a lot of trouble. He is the one causing all of it, as well. It sounds like you've contacted the police, so I'm not sure what else you can do. I'd make sure I had a lot of cameras pointed at his house. I'm sorry you're going through this. i realy don’t want him evicted. The rental market here is so difficult even when it’s not a pandemic - I would hate to see someone put out during these times because it is so hard to find a decent place that’s affordable. It would be much better if he could just get it together and live in his house like a normal person without causing a bunch of trouble for everybody around him. I get that, but what if his actions get YOU evicted??? Also, he has a choice in his behavior and there may be consequences. That isn't on you. That is on him. |
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Post by tincin on Jan 3, 2021 18:43:29 GMT
I’d be filing an HOA complaint about his weird behavior. Be careful he sounds like he has issues. Can you find out if there is sound insulation between the units?
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